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Old 04-29-2011, 01:02 AM   #511
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I have a question about a particular book. I'm curious how the staunch anti-piracy folks feel about this... I'm not planning to download it, I've already read it on paper, but it's an interesting thought experiment.

The book "Letters from Earth" was an unfinished work, written by Mark Twain, who died 101 years ago. Because of its content, his daughter (who inherited the rights to his writings) objected to having it published. She finally changed her mind shortly before her death and it was finally published AFTER she died. So, now... the author is dead and his heir is dead, yet because it was published for the first time so late it's still under copyright.

IMO this isn't as black and white as some make copyright issues out to be...
This bopk, at least fitrst part was n 0ogood. So no read to end.
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This bopk, at least fitrst part was n 0ogood. So no read to end.
I didn't ask that. :-) It's an interesting "corner case" for the copyright laws that I thought might change the equation a little bit for the staunchly anti-piracy crowd.
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I didn't ask that. :-) It's an interesting "corner case" for the copyright laws that I thought might change the equation a little bit for the staunchly anti-piracy crowd.
Do you want to discuss piracy or copyright?
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Old 04-29-2011, 07:46 AM   #515
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DRM is a tool to protect copyright. You break DRM precisely because you want to violate the authors copyright by making unauthorized copies and forwarding them to other people, for what you -not the author-consider good and sufficient reasons. Tap dance all you like, accuse me of what you will, but violating the author's copyright is what you are doing.
I'll put it plain. The publishers and booksellers have given you a way-in fact, more than one way-of sharing your ebooks within the family. That wasn't good enough or convenient enough for you , so you decided to use your knowledge to break DRM and violate the author's copyright. I'm sure your BFFs on this forum support you on this. That's them. I'm not going to follow suit. Sorry.
You really make me very angry, when you write that. I DO NOT want to share my ebooks (and I've bought all of them) with anyone (they can buy their own). I just want to be sure, that I have a copy available, if for some reason, my ebookreader gives out or I can't access my backlog catalog because of changed format or GEO restrictions.
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You really make me very angry, when you write that. I DO NOT want to share my ebooks (and I've bought all of them) with anyone (they can buy their own). I just want to be sure, that I have a copy available, if for some reason, my ebookreader gives out or I can't access my backlog catalog because of changed format or GEO restrictions.
Exactly.
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You really make me very angry, when you write that. I DO NOT want to share my ebooks (and I've bought all of them) with anyone (they can buy their own). I just want to be sure, that I have a copy available, if for some reason, my ebookreader gives out or I can't access my backlog catalog because of changed format or GEO restrictions.
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This is a thread discussing the problem of pirating-there are plenty of threads complaining about the availability and price of ebooks-pirating is never the answer.
the post i wrote was to make the point that people pirate because of ludicrous price for ebooks vs paper while i dont agree with pirating at all i can kind of see why so many do it, i have a set of paper books that i cannot buy legally for a reader and they are getting worn out because i have read them so often (duncton books by william horwood) they are now becoming even harder to find in paperback, i have written to the publisher but they are unable to help with regard to ereader or new copies of these books so i have to make do with wearing out my copies, so if anyone does ever make them into e reader format it would have to be pirate where does that leave me, unable to buy because they are illegal copies and unable to buy a legal copy, ai totally agree that piracy is not an option but for some books its fast becoming the only option
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the post i wrote was to make the point that people pirate because of ludicrous price for ebooks vs paper while i dont agree with pirating at all i can kind of see why so many do it, i have a set of paper books that i cannot buy legally for a reader and they are getting worn out because i have read them so often (duncton books by william horwood) they are now becoming even harder to find in paperback, i have written to the publisher but they are unable to help with regard to ereader or new copies of these books so i have to make do with wearing out my copies, so if anyone does ever make them into e reader format it would have to be pirate where does that leave me, unable to buy because they are illegal copies and unable to buy a legal copy, ai totally agree that piracy is not an option but for some books its fast becoming the only option
Is this just ONE sentence?
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Is this just ONE sentence?
It sure seems that way. I stopped reading when I ran out of breath.
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You really make me very angry, when you write that. I DO NOT want to share my ebooks (and I've bought all of them) with anyone (they can buy their own). I just want to be sure, that I have a copy available, if for some reason, my ebookreader gives out or I can't access my backlog catalog because of changed format or GEO restrictions.

Well said

Totally agree
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Is this just ONE sentence?
No, it's a paragraph disguised as a sentence.
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the post i wrote was to make the point that people pirate because of ludicrous price for ebooks vs paper while i dont agree with pirating at all i can kind of see why so many do it, i have a set of paper books that i cannot buy legally for a reader and they are getting worn out because i have read them so often (duncton books by william horwood) they are now becoming even harder to find in paperback, i have written to the publisher but they are unable to help with regard to ereader or new copies of these books so i have to make do with wearing out my copies, so if anyone does ever make them into e reader format it would have to be pirate where does that leave me, unable to buy because they are illegal copies and unable to buy a legal copy, ai totally agree that piracy is not an option but for some books its fast becoming the only option
You must've run out of these; so here, you can have some of mine

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You must've run out of these; so here, you can have some of mine

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Capitalization in the appropriate places wouldn't hurt, either.
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You can give him some capital letters
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