Content Amazon.com to sell cheaper Kindle e-reader, but you'll have to see on-screen ads! - Page 5

tubemonkey · 04-14-2011, 03:09 AM

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Originally Posted by bZkindle

There are no billboards in the middle of the highway either.

Yeah, but I don't pull my Kindle out of its case and cycle through the screensavers. There's just no thrill in it. I also don't stare at my home page for hours on end because the TOC is too good of a read to put down.

No distraction for me. Besides, I'm getting a KSO specifically to get the deals being offered. I'd be a fool to turn down a free Kindle.

WalkingDistance · 04-14-2011, 12:40 PM

I just thought of this.

Has anyone ever considered that the ads may be better than dead authors staring you in the face while it's in "sleep mode"?

The Visa ad that they have on the web-site looks a lot cooler than having dead authors in my opinion hahaha.

bhartman36 · 04-14-2011, 12:42 PM

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Originally Posted by WalkingDistance

I just thought of this.

Has anyone ever considered that the ads may be better than dead authors staring you in the face while it's in "sleep mode"?

The Visa ad that they have on the web-site looks a lot cooler than having dead authors in my opinion hahaha.

I think you're right. The standard screensavers don't really do much. Any image that you have as a screensaver is going to become invisible if it's being displayed over and over non-stop.

alansplace · 04-14-2011, 01:24 PM

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Originally Posted by theGsayeth

Just announced!

What do you think? Is it worth having ads if it means cutting the price by $25?

Horrible idea, and for a measly $25. Yecchhh!!!
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Alan

theGsayeth · 04-14-2011, 02:02 PM

It is interesting how most people are in agreement that the price cut is not worth dealing with advertisements. But I do know many who are more upset about the idea that those who accept the adverkindle will get deductions on gift cards and ebook/audio deals. A bit unfair for loyal members who already own a kindle.

What do you think?

bhartman36 · 04-14-2011, 02:13 PM

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Originally Posted by theGsayeth

It is interesting how most people are in agreement that the price cut is not worth dealing with advertisements. But I do know many who are more upset about the idea that those who accept the adverkindle will get deductions on gift cards and ebook/audio deals. A bit unfair for loyal members who already own a kindle.

What do you think?

I think it points to Amazon's problem with this product: People who already have Kindles are interested in the offers, but they're not interested in the ad-supported Kindle. And I suspect those that don't already have the Kindle would be interested in them if there was a price drop.

Basically, I see the target for this product to be those for whom the $25 difference is a make or break issue for them in regards to getting a Kindle. I don't see that as a particularly large group.

theGsayeth · 04-14-2011, 02:16 PM

I also think this is a delay tactic. They know that magic number is $99 and that once they drop to under a hundred dollars they will be swarmed with orders but they want to keep the price point as high as they can for as long as they can. With the number of alternatives out there that day is soon approaching.

bhartman36 · 04-14-2011, 02:34 PM

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Originally Posted by theGsayeth

I also think this is a delay tactic. They know that magic number is $99 and that once they drop to under a hundred dollars they will be swarmed with orders but they want to keep the price point as high as they can for as long as they can. With the number of alternatives out there that day is soon approaching.

That's kind of how I see this. They may just be testing the waters. The next logical step may be the Wifi version goes to $99 with special offers, and the $139 version becomes the one with wifi and 3G, but no offers. That would make some sense to me -- especially in light of all the Android tablets that are going to be coming up. A $100 do-it-all Android tablet has the potential to eat into Kindle sales.

tubemonkey · 04-14-2011, 02:59 PM

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Originally Posted by theGsayeth

It is interesting how most people are in agreement that the price cut is not worth dealing with advertisements. But I do know many who are more upset about the idea that those who accept the adverkindle will get deductions on gift cards and ebook/audio deals. A bit unfair for loyal members who already own a kindle.

What do you think?

I think these offers should also be made available to loyal Kindle owners, after they download the upgrade that puts these ads on their Kindles.

It's only fair.

tubemonkey · 04-14-2011, 03:03 PM

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Originally Posted by bhartman36

Basically, I see the target for this product to be those for whom the $25 difference is a make or break issue for them in regards to getting a Kindle. I don't see that as a particularly large group.

For me, the $25 lower price tag is irrelevant. I'd pay full price to get an ad-supported model, because the initial offers will save me $140 on products I was already going to buy. That alone makes even a full priced Kindle free.

DreamWriter · 04-14-2011, 03:57 PM

I need the 3G version, so I wouldn't choose the discounted wifi-only Kindle for that reason alone. I rarely look at the screensaver pictures, so if the ads were displayed only there it would be tolerable. But ads on the Home screen would annoy me, even if I was saving money. No thanks. I'd rather pay a bit extra for an ad-free Kindle.

I know that some people are not as sensitive to advertising as I am, though. If a discounted device will bring more people back to reading, I think that's great! I find that I'm reading a lot more since I purchased my Kindle. I think it's nice that Amazon's giving us choices.

Histerius · 04-14-2011, 06:24 PM

I'm sick of ads everywhere. That's all I can say. "Spend, spend, spend", I'm sick of it.

tubemonkey · 04-14-2011, 07:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Histerius

I'm sick of ads everywhere. That's all I can say. "Spend, spend, spend", I'm sick of it.

Except the one in your avatar?

kennyc · 04-14-2011, 08:07 PM

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Originally Posted by tubemonkey

Except the one in your avatar?

Exactly!

Mark Rehorst · 04-15-2011, 09:00 AM

There you go, a classic example of unobtrusive advertising. Did you notice the signature, too?

I'm guessing that Amazon will be updating the screensaver ads whenever you update firmware. I wonder if there will be firmware updates that contain only new ads or if they will only update ads when they actually make firmware changes. It's hard to imagine they'd notify people of a "new ads only" firmware update unless the ads are so awful that people will want to update to new ones just to get rid of the old ones (maybe like some people hate the screensaver pictures of dead authors).

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04-14-2011, 12:40 PM	#62
WalkingDistance Connoisseur Posts: 58 Karma: 50018 Join Date: Sep 2010 Device: Kindle 3	I just thought of this. Has anyone ever considered that the ads may be better than dead authors staring you in the face while it's in "sleep mode"? The Visa ad that they have on the web-site looks a lot cooler than having dead authors in my opinion hahaha.

04-14-2011, 02:02 PM	#65
theGsayeth bling bling Posts: 26 Karma: 330 Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Ontario, Canada Device: amazon kindle	It is interesting how most people are in agreement that the price cut is not worth dealing with advertisements. But I do know many who are more upset about the idea that those who accept the adverkindle will get deductions on gift cards and ebook/audio deals. A bit unfair for loyal members who already own a kindle. What do you think?

04-14-2011, 02:16 PM	#67
theGsayeth bling bling Posts: 26 Karma: 330 Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Ontario, Canada Device: amazon kindle	I also think this is a delay tactic. They know that magic number is $99 and that once they drop to under a hundred dollars they will be swarmed with orders but they want to keep the price point as high as they can for as long as they can. With the number of alternatives out there that day is soon approaching.

04-14-2011, 03:57 PM	#71
DreamWriter Books are brain food. Posts: 2,950 Karma: 4836916 Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: U.S. Device: Paperwhite · Fire HD6/HD8/HD10 · Galaxy Tab A7	I need the 3G version, so I wouldn't choose the discounted wifi-only Kindle for that reason alone. I rarely look at the screensaver pictures, so if the ads were displayed only there it would be tolerable. But ads on the Home screen would annoy me, even if I was saving money. No thanks. I'd rather pay a bit extra for an ad-free Kindle. I know that some people are not as sensitive to advertising as I am, though. If a discounted device will bring more people back to reading, I think that's great! I find that I'm reading a lot more since I purchased my Kindle. I think it's nice that Amazon's giving us choices.

04-14-2011, 06:24 PM	#72
Histerius Zealot Posts: 126 Karma: 7922 Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Zagreb, Croatia Device: Kindle 3 - Galaxy Tab 10.1	I'm sick of ads everywhere. That's all I can say. "Spend, spend, spend", I'm sick of it.

04-15-2011, 09:00 AM	#75
Mark Rehorst was engr, now dentist Posts: 143 Karma: 18558 Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Riverside, Ca Device: Kindle DXG	There you go, a classic example of unobtrusive advertising. Did you notice the signature, too? I'm guessing that Amazon will be updating the screensaver ads whenever you update firmware. I wonder if there will be firmware updates that contain only new ads or if they will only update ads when they actually make firmware changes. It's hard to imagine they'd notify people of a "new ads only" firmware update unless the ads are so awful that people will want to update to new ones just to get rid of the old ones (maybe like some people hate the screensaver pictures of dead authors).