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				The biggest threat facing authors and publishers today is not piracy, it's
			 
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			Thanks for the link
		 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
	
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			Yep, Doctorow's been beating that drum for a while. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			This idea has been around for a while.  But I think it's only true for authors who are obscure. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
	
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			Is piracy a threat? 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
	
	My book has been pirated twice, once on Amazon and once on eBay. In both cases I fired of the appropriate fax and it was taken down fairly promptly. It appeared a third time on the Filipino equivalent of eBay, but I could see I was onto a loser there. It's a pain, but a threat...? If I can't get anyone to buy the damn thing, I don't see how they're going to.  | 
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			"The biggest threat facing authors and publishers today is not piracy, it's obscurity. Anything that makes a book less accessible and less enjoyable makes it more obscure." 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
	
	This may be true but the Internet has made everything, including books, several orders of magnitude less obscure. Even in the days of BBS systems it was far easier to find things. I spent years trying to find a Time Magazine article with no luck. It took a while on the Internet because I had "remembered" the wrong date. But it was very obscure and now I have it. Shoebox If you are paranoid remember that anything that fit in a shoebox then would be about a pin head in size and hold more than 16 words. THEY might well be listening.  | 
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			For an unknown author it is obviously an advantage if copies of his books are getting popular on the darknet. My guess is that nobody on the dark side would care to download something completely unknown, however, unless somebody wrote a rave review.
		 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
	
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			99 pence on Amazon. The Filipino one worked out at about 10 pence - another reason for not chasing him: he probably needed the money more than me. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
			I'd be the first to admit that I haven't got the pricing sussed yet. I'm not keen on the 99 pence thing - in the long term I don't think it's a good idea to encourage the assumption that ebooks are necessarily cheap books. If you add to that the fact that a lot of the 99 pence editions are... well... not produced to professional standards... You can see where that leads. Also, I think there are already several markets for ebooks. The people who hang out in these forums are early adopters, a bit geeky, interested in how things work, full of opinions and don't see why they should pay much. There's another growing market of people who just want to read. They will go to Amazon and they (I hope) will think "Hey, not much more than Oxfam..." I personally regularly buy mainstream books for my Kindle which cost twice as much. Glad you liked the cover - I was proud of that. Last edited by MartinC; 03-18-2011 at 10:15 PM.  | 
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 For physical, the key issue is, "how much per-unit can we get, in order to offset the marginal costs?" If you had the ability, you'd sell one copy per year for $50,000; that makes the best economic sense. With digital, there's no marginal costs. (Well. Tiny. Cost of registering each transaction, I suppose, which are absorbed into the seller's percentage.) The key pricing question becomes, "how low can I price this and sell enough volume to reach the income level I want?" It's better to sell 50,000 copies at $1 each, than 10,000 copies at $5 each--the former means you've got more potential fans for the next book. There's no disadvantage to selling more copies, the way there is with print. (With print: more copies = more chances for mistakes, more external costs, more storage issues, and so on.) I don't know if the $1 ebook is "the perfect way to go," but there's a lot to be said for the $1 enticement and a string of $3-5 other books.  | 
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			Good point. But what if, in ten years time, serious readers are all choosing from the audiobook department because of the reputation ebooks have gained for cheap tat? Amazon is already well on the way to becoming the new ebay.
		 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
	
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