Making flying even more uncomfortable

[Mike L]

Originally Posted by HarryT

Unfortuately, though, even trains now seem to be switching to aircraft-style seats, rather than the traditional 4 seats around a table.

That's true.

But at least with a train you can get up, walk around and change seats whenever you want.

And you don't have to arrive at the station two hours before departure. Or queue up to be searched. Or show your passport to get on the train even when travelling within the country. Or pay extra for each bag you carry. Or pay an extra fee for buying your ticket by credit card.

Or arrive at your destination on time, only to have to wait 20 minutes while the train taxis to the platform. And still have to queue up to get off. And then, even when you're off the train, have to get on a bus to take you right into the station. And then another train or bus to take you to the city centre.

Or .... (I better stop here to give people a chance to disagree with me).

[GraceKrispy]

Wouldn't be so bad with harness seatbelts and some drugs before you got on (sleeping drugs). That way you can deal with your muscle spasms later, but at least you won't slip to the floor (like there's room!)

I also hate riding backwards in trains- not only facing someone, but also getting carsick. I need to face forward. (Response to another post, but quoting is wonky on my blackberry)

[GeoffC]

Originally Posted by kacir

(was the pun in the last sentence intended?)

You are wrong. The next thing they will charge for is toilet use, the chairs will be after that.
I am not joking with toilets! It was all over the media a few months ago.

There is a proposal in hand to run some trains in southern England that have no toilets installed.... http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-11358844

[kindlekitten]

Originally Posted by GraceKrispy

Wouldn't be so bad with harness seatbelts and some drugs before you got on (sleeping drugs). That way you can deal with your muscle spasms later, but at least you won't slip to the floor (like there's room!)

I also hate riding backwards in trains- not only facing someone, but also getting carsick. I need to face forward. (Response to another post, but quoting is wonky on my blackberry)

actually I liked riding backwards, it seemed like it was easier to see the sites.

Originally Posted by GeoffC

There is a proposal in hand to run some trains in southern England that have no toilets installed.... http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-11358844

the combination train/light rail I would commute on in Germany didn't have toilets. my total commute time was about an hour and sometimes I was in full peepee dance mode by the time I reached my destination

[ProfCrash]

Originally Posted by mrscoach

People aren't all the same height. What about very tall people, or people like me, short? I can almost guarantee I would be on tiptoe trying to 'stay in the seat'. That would not be comfortable for more than a couple of minutes.

Tall people would be doing the equivalent of wall squats for the duration of the flight. Those hurt.

But they would be in better shape when they finished their trip.

[Sweetpea]

Originally Posted by kindlekitten

the combination train/light rail I would commute on in Germany didn't have toilets. my total commute time was about an hour and sometimes I was in full peepee dance mode by the time I reached my destination

Neither has my car and sometimes I'm in full peepee dance mode by the time I reach my destination!

[kindlekitten]

Originally Posted by Sweetpea

Neither has my car and sometimes I'm in full peepee dance mode by the time I reach my destination!

yeah, but in your car you are the captain of your ship and can pull over anytime you want. not so when inside a train!

[harakiri]

the combination train/light rail I would commute on in Germany didn't have toilets. my total commute time was about an hour and sometimes I was in full peepee dance mode by the time I reached my destinatio

welcome to my world

Its always amazing to see people entering the trains drinking a liter of coffee in the morning.
They must have bladders of steel ....

[kindlekitten]

Originally Posted by harakiri

welcome to my world

Its always amazing to see people entering the trains drinking a liter of coffee in the morning.
They must have bladders of steel ....

no kidding huh?

[Steven Lyle Jordan]

I'm looking at what the woman in the photo is doing (and not just for the obvious reasons...): That seat is simultaneously forcing her legs apart, and causing the back of her skirt to either ride up or be forced between her legs on that saddle arrangement. Uncomfortable and immodest... What woman will want to sit on that?

Might as well give us all orange flight suits and put us in those upright rollercoaster seats and strap us in with 6-point harnesses...

[suecsi]

Originally Posted by Mike L

That's true.

But at least with a train you can get up, walk around and change seats whenever you want.

And you don't have to arrive at the station two hours before departure. Or queue up to be searched. Or show your passport to get on the train even when travelling within the country. Or pay extra for each bag you carry. Or pay an extra fee for buying your ticket by credit card.

Or arrive at your destination on time, only to have to wait 20 minutes while the train taxis to the platform. And still have to queue up to get off. And then, even when you're off the train, have to get on a bus to take you right into the station. And then another train or bus to take you to the city centre.

Or .... (I better stop here to give people a chance to disagree with me).

but absolutely true!!!! My hubby had a great ride from Birmingham to London on a Virgin Pendelino train yesterday, city centre to city centre in 1.25 minutes, waaaay quicker than by car. I want to try the one to Glasgow (which is often a flight).

[suecsi]

Originally Posted by kindlekitten

actually I liked riding backwards, it seemed like it was easier to see the sites.

the combination train/light rail I would commute on in Germany didn't have toilets. my total commute time was about an hour and sometimes I was in full peepee dance mode by the time I reached my destination

My train company has toilets but:-

a) the train is usually so full you can't get to them in rush hour (standing room only including by the toilet door;
b) the darn things are nearly always out of order !!!! (very common)

[kindlekitten]

Originally Posted by suecsi

My train company has toilets but:-

a) the train is usually so full you can't get to them in rush hour (standing room only including by the toilet door;
b) the darn things are nearly always out of order !!!! (very common)

a lot of times it depended on which train I took and whether or not it was a direct. the direct did have toilets, but as I recall I had to leave home about a half hour earlier.

it occurs to me that with these seats, there is no way you can have a child in them either.

[dsvick]

Originally Posted by kindlekitten

a lot of times it depended on which train I took and whether or not it was a direct. the direct did have toilets, but as I recall I had to leave home about a half hour earlier.

it occurs to me that with these seats, there is no way you can have a child in them either.

There would be a "family" section, for which you'd pay a premium for having the nerve to have kids

[JSWolf]

Originally Posted by poohbear_nc

Judging by the size of the women, and the uncomfortable position of the male passenger, these seats will have a weight limit on passenger size accommodated. I guess heavy people would literally have to stand up.

Those seats are unfair to a lot of people who are not overly large. I can see class action law suits happening. So no, I would not want to sit in those seats. I know people who would not be able to sit in them. But a regular seat, no problem.