Ordering of collections - Page 2

jozicka · 10-03-2010, 11:21 AM

Hi, I'm new to a kindle 3, my question is - so in case of 800 collections (per author) the first should start with # and the last with ########## (800x times) to have proper sorting from A till Z ?

Pushka · 10-03-2010, 06:15 PM

That would look pretty horrible. There is a hierarchy in the symbols, so . Sorts before < for instance. Instead of using lots of the same symbol, use different symbols and use less of them.

primetime34 · 10-03-2010, 10:47 PM

If you put # in front of every collection, they will sort alphabetically.

GlassX · 10-04-2010, 05:41 PM

Is it possible to make something like a sub-folder? A sub-collection so to speak?

TheKindleWorm · 10-04-2010, 05:53 PM

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Originally Posted by GlassX

Is it possible to make something like a sub-folder? A sub-collection so to speak?

Unfortunately sub-collections or collections within collections are not available on the Kindle.

Collections as I understand are not physical folders on the Kindle but are basically like tags or labels which are applied to your books. The bonus is that you can have one book in multiple collections whereas if you were really using a folder system, that book would have to have more than one physical copy to belong in more than one folder.

jozicka · 10-05-2010, 02:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by primetime34

If you put # in front of every collection, they will sort alphabetically.

I did that, but it no luck. It is still unsorted.

(actually a use tool on pc to rename all 400 folders to start with # and using kindle collection manager I created collection with # - So I hope I do not have to rename it manually directly in kindle)

Edit - sorry my fault -I had it sorted by collection.
If I sort it by title, it is showing all 5000 books, but on first pages there are these 400 collections, sorted alphabetically.

Superb - thank you for help.

GlassX · 10-05-2010, 04:56 AM

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Originally Posted by TheKindleWorm

Unfortunately sub-collections or collections within collections are not available on the Kindle.

Collections as I understand are not physical folders on the Kindle but are basically like tags or labels which are applied to your books. The bonus is that you can have one book in multiple collections whereas if you were really using a folder system, that book would have to have more than one physical copy to belong in more than one folder.

Yes, I thought so. Although I wish it was just a simple folder system, then you could add/change them when you connected it to your PC. I find the inbuilt organizing collection system sluggish.

desertblues · 10-05-2010, 05:05 AM

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Originally Posted by GlassX

Yes, I thought so. Although I wish it was just a simple folder system, then you could add/change them when you connected it to your PC. I find the inbuilt organizing collection system sluggish.

Too true. Last week I got the idea to rearrange my collections g.e from - A. Crime A-H to - A.Crime A-C and - A.Crime D-G and so on. It took me a while to get that done; could rename the first collection from A-H to A-C , but had to export the others one by one.
So I would advise everyone to think about organising in a collection before even loading a single book on the Kindle.

jozicka · 10-05-2010, 07:06 AM

Or to have some file manager tool in kindle.

So we can have collection of books outside the folder documents, and only use file manager to pick up one book and copy it to folder documents...

chilady1 · 10-05-2010, 02:08 PM

I start all of my collections with a zero (0) and when I sort by title, all of my collections show up in alphabetical order. I tried using all the different symbols but found it confusing and it really didn't order the collections they way I want. Now, everything sorts perfectly. Good Luck!

xari · 10-13-2010, 08:02 AM

Does anyone else find that when you have to restart your Kindle (for instance, after a software upgrade) that some of the collections lose their sort order?

In my case, I'm sorting by title, but my collections have the following symbols preceding them to keep them at the top: @, ##, #, + (used in that order).

All is fine, until I have to reboot for any reason. In which case the collections starting with the + symbol are still at the top, but all the others are sorted down with the book titles. Leading to a time-consuming 5-10 minutes of renaming the @, ##, and # collections to get them back to the top.

Has this happened to anyone else?

And, if not, which symbols (and in what order) are you using that allow you to escape this annoyance?

Thanks in advance for your responses. --xari.

Leep · 10-13-2010, 10:53 AM

Do you have a space after the symbol, but before the first letter. Once I fixed that problem, it solved my loss of sorting after resets.

cheers

NiLuJe · 10-13-2010, 03:48 PM

@xari: Yep, some do. So far, ~, { and [ seem to survive a framework restart

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xari · 10-13-2010, 06:48 PM

Quote:

@xari: Yep, some do. So far, ~, { and [ seem to survive a framework restart

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@NiLuJe: Alas.

Quote:

Do you have a space after the symbol, but before the first letter. Once I fixed that problem, it solved my loss of sorting after resets.

@Leep: Currently I do not have a space between the symbol and the first letter, so I'll give that a try.

Thanks both!

NiLuJe · 10-13-2010, 07:01 PM

Huh, yeah, never tried it with a space either, actually

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10-03-2010, 11:21 AM	#16
jozicka Connoisseur Posts: 63 Karma: 194 Join Date: Feb 2010 Device: notebook	Hi, I'm new to a kindle 3, my question is - so in case of 800 collections (per author) the first should start with # and the last with ########## (800x times) to have proper sorting from A till Z ?

10-03-2010, 06:15 PM	#17
Pushka Wizard Posts: 1,119 Karma: 1019140 Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Australia Device: kindle, Ipad, Iphone, Nexus and PPW	That would look pretty horrible. There is a hierarchy in the symbols, so . Sorts before < for instance. Instead of using lots of the same symbol, use different symbols and use less of them.

10-03-2010, 10:47 PM	#18
primetime34 Zealot Posts: 124 Karma: 1142 Join Date: Feb 2010 Device: Kindle 3, Nook 3G	If you put # in front of every collection, they will sort alphabetically.

10-04-2010, 05:41 PM	#19
GlassX Connoisseur Posts: 79 Karma: 24830 Join Date: Aug 2010 Device: Kindle 3, K4NT	Is it possible to make something like a sub-folder? A sub-collection so to speak?

10-05-2010, 07:06 AM	#24
jozicka Connoisseur Posts: 63 Karma: 194 Join Date: Feb 2010 Device: notebook	Or to have some file manager tool in kindle. So we can have collection of books outside the folder documents, and only use file manager to pick up one book and copy it to folder documents...

10-05-2010, 02:08 PM	#25
chilady1 I devour books! Posts: 789 Karma: 1285226 Join Date: Mar 2009 Device: iPad Air, Kindle 3/Kobo Aura HD, iPhone 6	I start all of my collections with a zero (0) and when I sort by title, all of my collections show up in alphabetical order. I tried using all the different symbols but found it confusing and it really didn't order the collections they way I want. Now, everything sorts perfectly. Good Luck!

10-13-2010, 08:02 AM	#26
xari Kindle Obsessed. Posts: 96 Karma: 6436 Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Here and There. Device: K3, K4, Kindle Fire.	Does anyone else find that when you have to restart your Kindle (for instance, after a software upgrade) that some of the collections lose their sort order? In my case, I'm sorting by title, but my collections have the following symbols preceding them to keep them at the top: @, ##, #, + (used in that order). All is fine, until I have to reboot for any reason. In which case the collections starting with the + symbol are still at the top, but all the others are sorted down with the book titles. Leading to a time-consuming 5-10 minutes of renaming the @, ##, and # collections to get them back to the top. Has this happened to anyone else? And, if not, which symbols (and in what order) are you using that allow you to escape this annoyance? Thanks in advance for your responses. --xari.

10-13-2010, 10:53 AM	#27
Leep Guru Posts: 739 Karma: 1018859 Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Near Seattle Device: kindle1, K3, K3G (thanks MR), iTouch, Kindle Touch	Do you have a space after the symbol, but before the first letter. Once I fixed that problem, it solved my loss of sorting after resets. cheers

10-13-2010, 03:48 PM	#28
NiLuJe BLAM! Posts: 13,506 Karma: 26047202 Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Paris, France Device: Kindle 2i, 3g, 4, 5w, PW, PW2, PW5; Kobo H2O, Forma, Elipsa, Sage, C2E	@xari: Yep, some do. So far, ~, { and [ seem to survive a framework restart .

10-13-2010, 07:01 PM	#30
NiLuJe BLAM! Posts: 13,506 Karma: 26047202 Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Paris, France Device: Kindle 2i, 3g, 4, 5w, PW, PW2, PW5; Kobo H2O, Forma, Elipsa, Sage, C2E	Huh, yeah, never tried it with a space either, actually .