Cybook Gen3 slightly delayed / adds PDF support - Page 2

hapax legomenon · 09-27-2007, 01:46 PM

although I can't wait to get my hands on the cybook, I probably won't be buying until the reviews come out and the Kindle come out (although if the Kindle comes out in November, I probably won't be able to wait).

Isn't it odd how Kindle is dropping no kinds of hints at all? Wouldn't it be in their best interest to make some more leaks (or at least a better screenshot!).

The lack of kindle publicity definitely makes me wonder if it's really going to come out.

MikeF74 · 09-27-2007, 02:31 PM

No kidding. Amazon has an amazing opportunity to create some buzz. But nope, nothing.

Sony on the other hand is keeping quiet because they don't want to sacrifice existing stock. I have a feeling the PRS-505 will debut on Monday, once all the current CC offers are up.

I also have a feeling that they are telling people to call back on Monday because they know if they announce now that all backordered Sony Rewards recepients will receive the new unit, they will be inundated with applications. They can afford to give a few new ones away, but not that many.

That was, of course, 100% speculation. I have absolutely no more info than anyone else.

NatCh · 09-27-2007, 02:51 PM

My read on it is that the previous Kindle leak was a genuine accident. Still, look at the buzz that's been generated almost a year later, without Amazon doing anything much more than keeping their mouths shut. If they came out with some actual data, it could only serve to limit our rampant speculative ravings, and then where would they be?

penty · 09-27-2007, 04:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Hadrien

Suspended mode: First of all, it's booting much faster than an iLiad or a Sony (around 14s). While reading a book, there's 2 different status for the device, if you're turning pages pretty fast, the device stays completely on (and you can browse through your book really fast). If you're actually reading and not turning pages, the device use a sleep mode while waiting for the next input. You don't have a button to make everything disappear on the screen like the Sony, but if you're not doing anything on the device, the battery use should be much lower (a full week at least). It's not like the Sony suspended mode where you can keep it in this mode for a full month, but at least you can turn it completely off (without a user hack) and the booting time is good. They'll be constantly working on improving this "sleep mode". I just hope that you can put it on hold...

Unless they did a bunch of optimization in V.96 the battery will not last a week. From my experience, I'd say 3-4 days of mixed use.

NatCh · 09-27-2007, 05:01 PM

This sort of information makes me even more impressed with the Sony's battery life.

Alisa · 09-27-2007, 05:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by penty

Unless they did a bunch of optimization in V.96 the battery will not last a week. From my experience, I'd say 3-4 days of mixed use.

I took that comment to mean it would last a week with no use.

Hadrien · 09-27-2007, 05:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Alisa

I took that comment to mean it would last a week with no use.

Yep that's correct.

JSWolf · 09-27-2007, 05:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hadrien

Yep that's correct.

Just a week? I really am impressed with my Sony even more. Plus, if I was not using the Sony, I can now turn it off. Granted it takes like 2 min to boot, but that;s ok since I know this ahead of time.

penty · 09-27-2007, 06:04 PM

Aside from some minor quibbles I'm happy with the Cybook. I just want one with an 8" screen.

Alisa · 09-27-2007, 07:47 PM

I have a quick question about the look-up feature that hopefully someone can answer. Can you search text in books or is it just for dictionary search?

delphidb96 · 09-27-2007, 09:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alisa

I have a quick question about the look-up feature that hopefully someone can answer. Can you search text in books or is it just for dictionary search?

Looks like it's mostly a dictionary search. Would be nice to do a text search, but you'd have to be able to specify the words - and how would you do that without a keyboard?

Derek

Alisa · 09-27-2007, 09:21 PM

You could specify a word with an on-screen keyboard that you cursor through with buttons. My DVR has an interface like that for searching the directory for shows I want to record. It uses directional arrow buttons on the remote to move through the alphabet. It's not fast but since you're not entering a lot of text, it's just fine.

DaleDe · 09-27-2007, 10:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hadrien

Well... on the other hand you can turn off your Cybook easily, unlike the Sony Reader. Even though you can add a real off button for the Sony, you still get a VERY long booting time.

It's part software based, part hardware based. You can really improve your battery life with the right software too (for example what the community did for the iLiad using PDF).

To piggyback a little. The battery drain is from hardware but software controls the hardware so there are techniques to shut more of the hardware down to get longer battery life. If you have the ability to completely turn it off then the battery life gets really long but then you might have a long start up period. It is clear that Sony has been out longer and has the trade off down to a pretty good number. Compare that with the iLiad which would only last about 15 hours last time I checked. This unit, at a week, is well on its way and is sufficient for a great number of people although you can't win a contest of "my ebook reader lasts longer that yours" if that is your goal.

Dale

HarryT · 09-28-2007, 02:46 AM

I don't really see that it matters if the battery life is a week or a month; once it gets past the ability to see you through the longest reasonable day, plane trip, or whatever, that's all that matters, or so it seems to me, anyway. Anything beyond that, one is engaging in what seems to me to be a rather pointless comparison of fairly meaningless numbers.

Ortep · 09-28-2007, 03:11 AM

If the battery life is extremely long you can even run into the problem that you forget to charge it. It happens to me with my phone. It will last about 10 days when I'm not using it very often. So when I have to make a few long calls after a week, I drain the battery because there was only 15% power left. That never happend to me with my old phone. That one lasted 2 days max. So it was on the charger whenever possible

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Ortep Fanatic Posts: 527 Karma: 470 Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: The Netherlands Device: Kindle Oasis	If the battery life is extremely long you can even run into the problem that you forget to charge it. It happens to me with my phone. It will last about 10 days when I'm not using it very often. So when I have to make a few long calls after a week, I drain the battery because there was only 15% power left. That never happend to me with my old phone. That one lasted 2 days max. So it was on the charger whenever possible Last edited by Ortep; 09-28-2007 at 03:13 AM.

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09-27-2007, 01:46 PM	#16
hapax legomenon Erotica Writer Posts: 102 Karma: 106 Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Tulsa, OK Device: ipad, Sony Reader PRS 505, Cybook 3	although I can't wait to get my hands on the cybook, I probably won't be buying until the reviews come out and the Kindle come out (although if the Kindle comes out in November, I probably won't be able to wait). Isn't it odd how Kindle is dropping no kinds of hints at all? Wouldn't it be in their best interest to make some more leaks (or at least a better screenshot!). The lack of kindle publicity definitely makes me wonder if it's really going to come out.

09-27-2007, 02:31 PM	#17
MikeF74 Groupie Posts: 179 Karma: 28 Join Date: May 2007 Device: Sony PRS-505	No kidding. Amazon has an amazing opportunity to create some buzz. But nope, nothing. Sony on the other hand is keeping quiet because they don't want to sacrifice existing stock. I have a feeling the PRS-505 will debut on Monday, once all the current CC offers are up. I also have a feeling that they are telling people to call back on Monday because they know if they announce now that all backordered Sony Rewards recepients will receive the new unit, they will be inundated with applications. They can afford to give a few new ones away, but not that many. That was, of course, 100% speculation. I have absolutely no more info than anyone else.

09-27-2007, 02:51 PM	#18
NatCh Gizmologist Posts: 11,615 Karma: 929550 Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Republic of Texas Embassy at Jackson, TN Device: Pocketbook Touch HD3	My read on it is that the previous Kindle leak was a genuine accident. Still, look at the buzz that's been generated almost a year later, without Amazon doing anything much more than keeping their mouths shut. If they came out with some actual data, it could only serve to limit our rampant speculative ravings, and then where would they be?

09-27-2007, 05:01 PM	#20
NatCh Gizmologist Posts: 11,615 Karma: 929550 Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Republic of Texas Embassy at Jackson, TN Device: Pocketbook Touch HD3	This sort of information makes me even more impressed with the Sony's battery life.

09-27-2007, 06:04 PM	#24
penty Connoisseur Posts: 70 Karma: 367 Join Date: Sep 2007 Device: CyBook Gen3	Aside from some minor quibbles I'm happy with the Cybook. I just want one with an 8" screen.

09-27-2007, 07:47 PM	#25
Alisa Gadget Geek Posts: 2,324 Karma: 22221 Join Date: Aug 2007 Device: Paperwhite, Kindle 3 (retired), Skindle 1.2 (retired)	I have a quick question about the look-up feature that hopefully someone can answer. Can you search text in books or is it just for dictionary search?

09-27-2007, 09:21 PM	#27
Alisa Gadget Geek Posts: 2,324 Karma: 22221 Join Date: Aug 2007 Device: Paperwhite, Kindle 3 (retired), Skindle 1.2 (retired)	You could specify a word with an on-screen keyboard that you cursor through with buttons. My DVR has an interface like that for searching the directory for shows I want to record. It uses directional arrow buttons on the remote to move through the alphabet. It's not fast but since you're not entering a lot of text, it's just fine.

09-28-2007, 02:46 AM	#29
HarryT eBook Enthusiast Posts: 85,560 Karma: 93980341 Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: UK Device: Kindle Oasis 2, iPad Pro 10.5", iPhone 6	I don't really see that it matters if the battery life is a week or a month; once it gets past the ability to see you through the longest reasonable day, plane trip, or whatever, that's all that matters, or so it seems to me, anyway. Anything beyond that, one is engaging in what seems to me to be a rather pointless comparison of fairly meaningless numbers.