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Old 09-22-2010, 08:42 AM   #556
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To its eternal discredit, the Roman Catholic Church investigated Soubirous's claims for four years before approving devotion to Our Lady of Lourdes. Since then, the Church has validated 67 miracles at Lourdes (of the thousands that have been reported*) and canonized the peasant girl. (Her body, which is on display, is alleged to be incorruptible, but the face and hands, which look so lifelike, are made of wax.) It is estimated that in recent years about 5 million pilgrims a year visit the shrine at Lourdes. Over the past 150 years, some 200 million people have made the pilgrimage. For those who care, that's a success rate of .0000335% or 1 out of every 3 million. Furthermore, since 1947 anyone claiming a miraculous cure has to go before a medical board. "From 1947 to 1990, only 1,000 cures were claimed and only 56 were recognized in that time, averaging 1.3 cures a year, against 57 a year before 1914." Since 1978, there have been only four recognized cures.
Yeah well thats just Catholics right... Chuckle..
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Sorry, but I have no interest in following the Nevil Chamberlain theory of science. (Yep, a Godwin.) I will not bow down to idiotic superstitions, now or ever.
I'm not sure where I suggested you bow down to superstitions so I'm not sure what relevence your post has in reply to mine.

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Just to make sure... Does anyone here actually believe that there are warriors hiding in crystal skulls.. just want to know what I'm dealing with here...
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Now I know I'm not the only defender of the faith out there.... People shouldn't be afraid to stand up for what they believe against these atheists. The atheists are very vocal right now, but they aint as clever as they pretend. Stand up folks... shout out what you know is right. What the atheists don't have in there arguments is fervor... passion... Theres is a gloomy dark, and grim world... There stuck in a cave searching for the light while the damp slowly eats away at there immortal souls. I pray for them....
This is not about shouting or pushing your beliefs on others. This is about truth, evidence, reality.
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What the atheists don't have in there arguments is fervor... passion... Theres is a gloomy dark, and grim world... There stuck in a cave searching for the light while the damp slowly eats away at there immortal souls. I pray for them....
I appreciate the gesture, but please don't pray of me.

If Heaven is as described in the brochure - I really don't want to go there.
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I appreciate the gesture, but please don't pray of me.

If Heaven is as described in the brochure - I really don't want to go there.
Oh... that is foolish

Dear Lord... I pray for sparrow... yada yada yada
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This is not about shouting or pushing your beliefs on others. This is about truth, evidence, reality.
Thats correct. Its about the Truth.
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I appreciate the gesture, but please don't pray of me.

If Heaven is as described in the brochure - I really don't want to go there.
Me either. Since dogs don't go to heaven, I wanna go where the dogs are.
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Me either. Since dogs don't go to heaven, I wanna go where the dogs are.
Dogs go to heaven
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Thats correct. Its about the Truth.
Right and there is only one objective truth.
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as I and many others here continue to ask, please provide evidence. First that heaven exists and then that dogs go there.
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as I and many others here continue to ask, please provide evidence. First that heaven exists and then that dogs go there.
Or, failing that, terrazoids, stop misrepresenting your beliefs as facts.
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Oh... that is foolish

Dear Lord... I pray for sparrow... yada yada yada
Stop trying to kidnap my soul!!
Kindly keep your prayers at least 50 meters away from my eternal essence; I don't want to have to get a restraining order.

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Right and there is only one objective truth.
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Or, failing that, terrazoids, stop misrepresenting your beliefs as facts.
I'll stop when you stop... And then we'll just be left with Choice. Are you going to be an evil person Sweevo... or a good one?
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