Yet another PDF to LRF converter - Page 28

Lackbeard · 07-25-2008, 01:44 PM

Bug report:
This pdf causes PdfLrf 0.99 (win) to exit spontaneously at 93%, leaving a zero-byte LRF file behind: http://www.math.ku.dk/noter/filer/CB/koman-07.pdf
I have noticed this before (but I can't remember with which files)

JSWolf · 07-25-2008, 01:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lackbeard

Bug report:
This pdf causes PdfLrf 0.99 (win) to exit spontaneously at 93%, leaving a zero-byte LRF file behind: http://www.math.ku.dk/noter/filer/CB/koman-07.pdf
I have noticed this before (but I can't remember with which files)

Try that PDF with the new firmware.Maybe you won't need to convert it.

Lackbeard · 07-26-2008, 07:40 PM

I posted a bug report. Apparently it was removed. Why?

Nate the great · 07-26-2008, 07:41 PM

It wasn't removed. It had your first link and needed to be approved.

EDIT: done

cszhy · 08-21-2008, 03:38 AM

Hi , is there anyone can email a pdflrf 0.6 to me(cszhy_2003@hotmail.com) , I need it because there is something wrong with the version 0.9 when ghostscript is checked

Thanks a lot

cszhy · 09-01-2008, 10:42 PM

when I use pdflrf0.99 converting some chinese pdf,
the message box say

"GPL Ghostscript 8.6: Unrecoverable error, exit code 1"

anyone can help? thanks

ashkulz · 09-04-2008, 05:44 PM

I've been looking at doing some refactoring of PDFRead and while I was doing that I came across Poppler, which in turn is based on XPdf. cacapee mentions multiple times that poppler is used in pdflrf (which is also statically linked into the executables). The poppler README clearly states:

Code:

Please note that xpdf, and thus poppler, is licensed under the GPL,
not the LGPL.  Consequently, any application using poppler must also
be licensed under the GPL.  If you want to incorporate Xpdf based PDF
rendering in a closed source product, please contact Glyph & Cog
(www.glyphandcog.com) for commercial licensing options.

. In such a scenario, it becomes an obligation for cacapee to either publish the source code OR withdraw the binaries for this tool. [disclaimer: I've been trying to get cacapee to share the source code for a while now so that I could pick up some ideas for PDFRead, but I never thought of the licensing issue until I was trying to compile poppler myself today.]

Considering the policy which was similiarly applied to RasterFarian, I'd like to request that the downloads on the first post be temporarily hidden/disabled. It would be a sad thing for many users, but I think that until this matter is resolved, it's the correct thing to do.

hel · 09-09-2008, 12:05 PM

But I could not download it

saville · 09-15-2008, 10:46 AM

But I could not download it

ashkulz · 09-15-2008, 04:53 PM

As mentioned in the main post, the downloads have been taken down pending clarification from the author regarding compliance with the GPL. Till then, they will remain disabled, I'm sorry to say

balok · 09-16-2008, 07:14 AM

Hey, don't be a jerk. You're just nitpicking. Or is this a power trip? Maybe it's a way to get back at Cacapee for not releasing his code.

Furthermore, if you want to get legal on us, let me point out that legally speaking, it's not your prerogative to enforce a third party's rights (ie. the author of Poppler), and I very much doubt that Mobileread could be held liable just for hosting software that presumedly doesn't respect a third party's licence.

Does the expression "to be more catholic than the pope" exist in English? If not, it seems self-explanatory.

Ozne · 09-16-2008, 08:28 AM

I agree with balok : I just bought a Sony reader and I came straight here to download the converter only to find out that some overzealous had put it off limits.
It looked a bit strange until I found this article :
http://hightech.afmag.net/pdf-raster...nd-pdflrf.html

and that seems to explain a lot. I mean, it seems too much of a coincidence that
Ashkulz is being "more catholic than the pope" because his PDFread sw is declared somewhat less perfect than the competition ?
It's hard enough to work around Sony's limitations to have to deal with the self appointed
sheriffs of the world.
Please re-instate this download.

RWood · 09-16-2008, 08:56 AM

ashkulz did not remove the program. It was removed, as the note in the first post said, by a MobileRead moderator. ashkulz just gave a more details.

ashkulz · 09-16-2008, 09:38 AM

@balok: I'm sorry if you think I'm nitpicking, but I'm a software developer by profession and have contributed to multiple open source projects: for me, a license violation is not in the spirit of open source. You're absolutely correct in the fact that I have no legal right when it comes to enforcing the rights of poppler/xpdf: after all, I didn't write it. All I did is request that the same yardstick that was applied to RasterFarian be applied in this case: if you disagree with that, feel free to disagree (or not) with the moderators.

@Ozne: That review is from a year ago and it was tested with comics/manga, which I don't read at all. If you think that I've spent a year in a dark cave and am now slowly knocking off my competition one-by-one, you're welcome to that thought. The moment cacapee shows up with an updated version without poppler or the source code, that theory goes down the drain [I'm hoping he does either, rather than this silence].

I'm sorry if people think I'm being jealous and obstructive: all this leaves a bad taste in my mouth. If you feel that I've taken something away from you, then feel free to defeat me in the best way you can: write a better tool and make it more popular than pdflrf or PDFRead.

tompe · 09-16-2008, 05:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by balok

Hey, don't be a jerk. You're just nitpicking. Or is this a power trip? Maybe it's a way to get back at Cacapee for not releasing his code.

Furthermore, if you want to get legal on us, let me point out that legally speaking, it's not your prerogative to enforce a third party's rights (ie. the author of Poppler), and I very much doubt that Mobileread could be held liable just for hosting software that presumedly doesn't respect a third party's licence.

Does the expression "to be more catholic than the pope" exist in English? If not, it seems self-explanatory.

GPL was created to make programs better by enabling people to be able to enhance them. Releasing a program that solves some problem and not releasing the source code hinder the development of good programs since the binary programs kind of works. And using GPL:ed code and not releasing the source code is not in the spirit of GPL and the goal of enhancing programs.

So it is often better that a program without source code disappear because it will stimulate a better GPL:ed program to be developed.

09-04-2008, 05:44 PM	#412
ashkulz Addict Posts: 350 Karma: 705 Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Mumbai, India Device: Kindle 1/REB 1200	Possible non-compliance of GPL terms I've been looking at doing some refactoring of PDFRead and while I was doing that I came across Poppler, which in turn is based on XPdf. cacapee mentions multiple times that poppler is used in pdflrf (which is also statically linked into the executables). The poppler README clearly states: Code: Please note that xpdf, and thus poppler, is licensed under the GPL, not the LGPL. Consequently, any application using poppler must also be licensed under the GPL. If you want to incorporate Xpdf based PDF rendering in a closed source product, please contact Glyph & Cog (www.glyphandcog.com) for commercial licensing options. . In such a scenario, it becomes an obligation for cacapee to either publish the source code OR withdraw the binaries for this tool. [disclaimer: I've been trying to get cacapee to share the source code for a while now so that I could pick up some ideas for PDFRead, but I never thought of the licensing issue until I was trying to compile poppler myself today.] Considering the policy which was similiarly applied to RasterFarian, I'd like to request that the downloads on the first post be temporarily hidden/disabled. It would be a sad thing for many users, but I think that until this matter is resolved, it's the correct thing to do.

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07-25-2008, 01:44 PM	#406
Lackbeard Junior Member Posts: 6 Karma: 10 Join Date: Jun 2008 Device: Sony Reader 505	Bug report: This pdf causes PdfLrf 0.99 (win) to exit spontaneously at 93%, leaving a zero-byte LRF file behind: http://www.math.ku.dk/noter/filer/CB/koman-07.pdf I have noticed this before (but I can't remember with which files)

07-26-2008, 07:40 PM	#408
Lackbeard Junior Member Posts: 6 Karma: 10 Join Date: Jun 2008 Device: Sony Reader 505	I posted a bug report. Apparently it was removed. Why?

07-26-2008, 07:41 PM	#409
Nate the great Sir Penguin of Edinburgh Posts: 12,375 Karma: 23555235 Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: DC Metro area Device: Shake a stick plus 1	It wasn't removed. It had your first link and needed to be approved. EDIT: done

08-21-2008, 03:38 AM	#410
cszhy Member Posts: 21 Karma: 10 Join Date: Aug 2007 Device: sony reader	Hi , is there anyone can email a pdflrf 0.6 to me(cszhy_2003@hotmail.com) , I need it because there is something wrong with the version 0.9 when ghostscript is checked Thanks a lot

09-01-2008, 10:42 PM	#411
cszhy Member Posts: 21 Karma: 10 Join Date: Aug 2007 Device: sony reader	when I use pdflrf0.99 converting some chinese pdf, the message box say "GPL Ghostscript 8.6: Unrecoverable error, exit code 1" anyone can help? thanks

09-09-2008, 12:05 PM	#413
hel Sorceress Posts: 169 Karma: 19604 Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Montreal Device: Kobo Libra Colour, Boox Air2&Nova 3C, Kindle, Sony, and more	But I could not download it

09-15-2008, 10:46 AM	#414
saville Junior Member Posts: 1 Karma: 10 Join Date: Sep 2008 Device: n77	But I could not download it

09-15-2008, 04:53 PM	#415
ashkulz Addict Posts: 350 Karma: 705 Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Mumbai, India Device: Kindle 1/REB 1200	As mentioned in the main post, the downloads have been taken down pending clarification from the author regarding compliance with the GPL. Till then, they will remain disabled, I'm sorry to say

09-16-2008, 07:14 AM	#416
balok Ugly alien Posts: 144 Karma: 225 Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Québec, QC Device: tricorder	Hey, don't be a jerk. You're just nitpicking. Or is this a power trip? Maybe it's a way to get back at Cacapee for not releasing his code. Furthermore, if you want to get legal on us, let me point out that legally speaking, it's not your prerogative to enforce a third party's rights (ie. the author of Poppler), and I very much doubt that Mobileread could be held liable just for hosting software that presumedly doesn't respect a third party's licence. Does the expression "to be more catholic than the pope" exist in English? If not, it seems self-explanatory.

09-16-2008, 08:28 AM	#417
Ozne Junior Member Posts: 3 Karma: 10 Join Date: Sep 2008 Device: Sony	I agree with balok : I just bought a Sony reader and I came straight here to download the converter only to find out that some overzealous had put it off limits. It looked a bit strange until I found this article : http://hightech.afmag.net/pdf-raster...nd-pdflrf.html and that seems to explain a lot. I mean, it seems too much of a coincidence that Ashkulz is being "more catholic than the pope" because his PDFread sw is declared somewhat less perfect than the competition ? It's hard enough to work around Sony's limitations to have to deal with the self appointed sheriffs of the world. Please re-instate this download.

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09-16-2008, 08:56 AM	#418
RWood Technogeezer Posts: 7,233 Karma: 1601464 Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Virginia, USA Device: Sony PRS-500	ashkulz did not remove the program. It was removed, as the note in the first post said, by a MobileRead moderator. ashkulz just gave a more details.

09-16-2008, 09:38 AM	#419
ashkulz Addict Posts: 350 Karma: 705 Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Mumbai, India Device: Kindle 1/REB 1200	@balok: I'm sorry if you think I'm nitpicking, but I'm a software developer by profession and have contributed to multiple open source projects: for me, a license violation is not in the spirit of open source. You're absolutely correct in the fact that I have no legal right when it comes to enforcing the rights of poppler/xpdf: after all, I didn't write it. All I did is request that the same yardstick that was applied to RasterFarian be applied in this case: if you disagree with that, feel free to disagree (or not) with the moderators. @Ozne: That review is from a year ago and it was tested with comics/manga, which I don't read at all. If you think that I've spent a year in a dark cave and am now slowly knocking off my competition one-by-one, you're welcome to that thought. The moment cacapee shows up with an updated version without poppler or the source code, that theory goes down the drain [I'm hoping he does either, rather than this silence]. I'm sorry if people think I'm being jealous and obstructive: all this leaves a bad taste in my mouth. If you feel that I've taken something away from you, then feel free to defeat me in the best way you can: write a better tool and make it more popular than pdflrf or PDFRead.