Onyx Boox as monitor

[tracey1]

Originally Posted by Question Mark

That would be my guess. An HDMI port for hooking up to a computer and the regular micro USB port.

If the HDMI port also allowed me to hook the device up to a projector, that would be even better. But I'm guessing that probably won't be the case. It will just be to allow it to function as a monitor. How and ever, a dedicated HDMI port will be sweet.

Earlier this year it was first said the Max Carta 2 and the monitor device will be two different devices but apparently they changed their minds and decided to fuse the two. I wonder if it'll be costlier than the current max, given that the specs will be better as well. I'm pretty sure it will run Android 6 or 7, too.

[eReader fan]

Hi guys. I just made a review of the new Onyx Boox N96ML+. In the last minutes you can see (very shortly) a demonstration of using it as a second monitor.

Link: https://youtu.be/9icr_Qx9HCo

About the android in the newest Onyx readers, must sey Android 7 is simply not in the agenda, even not in their minds. The N96ML+ comes with android 4.0 and its supposed to be an upgrade to the 4.4 in the nexxt months. The eNote and the Mac Carta2 it=s possible to have an upgrade to the android 6.

[mdp]

Originally Posted by eReader fan

Hi guys. I just made a review of the new Onyx Boox N96ML+. In the last minutes you can see (very shortly) a demonstration of using it as a second monitor.

Fantastic video

[tracey1]

@mdp Would you say a 10 inch display is good enough for laptop work ? I would assume it's far less enjoyable compared to working on a 13.3 display.

[mdp]

Originally Posted by tracey1

@mdp Would you say a 10 inch display is good enough for a laptop work ? I would assume it's far less enjoyable compared to working on a 13.3 display.

Well 10.3'' is halfish 13.3''... I have done lots of work on a 6.8'', but if one can choose...

[tracey1]

Originally Posted by mdp

Well 10.3'' is halfish 13.3''... I have done lots of work on a 6.8'', but if one can choose...

Well, Onyx is preparing the typewriter (9,7 inches) and the new max and Im certainly eyeing them. I agree 13.3 would be better but it's more expensive than a 10 inch E reader like the Onyx N96 . Plus I expect the new Max to be even more expensive than the current version.

How were you comfortable using a 6.8 though ? That suprises me. What work did you do on it ?

[mdp]

Originally Posted by tracey1

I agree 13.3 would be better but it's more expensive

Efficiency. If something costs less but slows you down and you waste time, it's not a bargain.

Originally Posted by tracey1

How were you comfortable using a 6.8 though ? That suprises me. What work did you do on it ?

Mentioned many times: open air, T68, BT keyboard, supports I designed, Kingsoft 5.12 . But it is not comparable with what I do on desktop, 24'' and Libre. You work differently. You prepare your documents beforehand, and the work is more meditative; you operate on local chunks sequentially. You dance with the system. A speedy environment with real estate instead is your obedient extension. You can move around fast and you can think and operate globally. The situation of compromise only allows for a subset.

If your requirement is a monitor, wait for a device that works well to that aim - before that time, see what Android can do for you if you want to work on EPD.

[tracey1]

Originally Posted by mdp

Efficiency. If something costs less but slows you down and you waste time, it's not a bargain.

I didnt know screen size had such a significant effect on speed

Originally Posted by mdp

If your requirement is a monitor, wait for a device that works well to that aim - before that time, see what Android can do for you if you want to work on EPD.

That eliminates the N96, I guess I'll be waiting for the new max then (unless it turns out to be far more expensive than the current version). The typewriter on the other hand is very tempting because of its mobility but probably not ideal in terms of efficiency either

[mdp]

Originally Posted by tracey1

The typewriter on the other hand is very tempting

The question about the "typewriter" is: does it do more or less than a tablet plus BT/OTG keyboard? The real idea would be a "chromebook" (just for distribution - Chrome OS is widespread and free) upgradable (replaceable - Chrome OS is very limited) to full "linux desktop" OS but with EPD display - probably the low density 10.3'', to lower the price. I do not have the tentative specs of the "typewriter" with me though

[tracey1]

Originally Posted by mdp

Efficiency. If something costs less but slows you down and you waste time, it's not a bargain.



Mentioned many times: open air, T68, BT keyboard, supports I designed, Kingsoft 5.12 . But it is not comparable with what I do on desktop, 24'' and Libre. You work differently. You prepare your documents beforehand, and the work is more meditative; you operate on local chunks sequentially. You dance with the system. A speedy environment with real estate instead is your obedient extension. You can move around fast and you can think and operate globally. The situation of compromise only allows for a subset.

If your requirement is a monitor, wait for a device that works well to that aim - before that time, see what Android can do for you if you want to work on EPD.

Originally Posted by mdp

The question about the "typewriter" is: does it do more or less than a tablet plus BT/OTG keyboard? The real idea would be a "chromebook" (just for distribution - Chrome OS is widespread and free) upgradable (replaceable - Chrome OS is very limited) to full "linux desktop" OS but with EPD display - probably the low density 10.3'', to lower the price. I do not have the tentative specs of the "typewriter" with me though

You're right. I also forgot that you can just physically attach the tablet to your laptop screen and voilá it's portable. A chromebook would be neat indeed but I think not on their agenda

[desk7]

I'd like to use my Onyx Boox Max as a monitor but I have some question for users who have already tested it:

1. VNC is not encrypted. If I want to use it only on my private WLAN, can data traffic leak out of LAN to outside?
2. screen mirroring through USB is safer. Is it also reliable? Is it hard to install and configure?
3. How are the performance of Onyx as monitor compared to those of Dasung paperlike pro (https://youtu.be/Y7SMsMA4cy8)?
   Thanks and sorry for my English!

[mdp]

Originally Posted by desk7

1. VNC is not encrypted. If I want to use it only on my private WLAN, can data traffic leak out of LAN to outside?
2. screen mirroring through USB is safer. Is it also reliable? Is it hard to install and configure?
3. How are the performance of Onyx as monitor compared to those of Dasung paperlike pro

Hi,
1&2: you can use VNC through USB. Help yourself in the process with the app I published here - or alternatively the instructions -, to set up the network on the tablet
3: remote desktop solutions can hardly beat a native monitor connection. But the matter is, we have not yet established the optimal setup for remote desktop connected Onyx devices

[mdp]

Originally Posted by desk7

I'd like to use my Onyx Boox Max as a monitor

On Linux, you may want to start like this:

* give yourself a reasonable 4:3 resolution, and maybe the desired screen orientation, such as FOR EXAMPLE:

xrandr  --output DVI-I-1  --mode 1600x1200 --rate 60.00  --rotate left
### or
xrandr  --output DVI-I-1  --mode 1280x960 --rate 60.00  --rotate normal

* You could choke your network data rate on the interface bridging you to the tablet to make the USB networking more stable, such as

wondershaper enp0s29f7u6 4000 4000

That horrid "enp0s29f7u6" is my interface name, I hope yours is nicer. The numbers there are 4kb/s as a limit for both upload and download. Note: as implicit, this may not be useful in case of a Wi-Fi or a BlueTooth connection.

* Then, supposing you have started the USB networking on the tablet (I assume you have my software application or my instructions), set-up the networking side,

ifconfig enp0s29f7u6 192.168.22.1  ;  ping  -c 3  192.168.22.2

For Wi-Fi or BT, you'll probably manage networking automatically or differently.

* So you can now start the VNC server; you can try, for example, as your normal user:

x11vnc  -noipv6 -allow 192.168.22.2  -forever  -speeds lan  -noxdamage

* On the tablet, you will have bVNC, I suggest you use Iordan's last version or the one I modified and published here last. Flag:
-- in the main app screen, in the menu, tick "Force Landscape Orientation" if this is the case;
-- in the list of the "Show Advanced Settings", tick "Local mouse pointer" to have the mouse move a bit faster;
-- in the menu of the working VNC connection, specify that you want a "Fit to screen" visualization.

If anybody finds a better working configuration, please post it.
For example, the '-noxdamage' parameter for `x11vnc` seems to me to mirror the changes sooner, but it may be just a wrong impression. I have not tested all possible solutions.

[desk7]

Originally Posted by mdp

On Linux, you may want to start like this:
...

Thanks for posting! Is it necessary to get the ereader rooted?

PS: you've PM.

[mdp]

Originally Posted by desk7

Is it necessary to get the ereader rooted?

To set up the USB network, yes, I guess. But you can otherwise try Wi-Fi or BlueTooth - the former should be straightforward, for the latter again there is a post of mine in this thread with instructions.

I like using USB networking because it should be the basic feature. Instead, it's not supported and less stable.