New Reader with great pdf-support: Mantano Reader (like aldiko+ezpdf)

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[QUOTE=DiapDealer;3442356]....... Stripping the Google Play licensing portions from the app is probably a nightmare itself.
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Still ...



Not so, there's an app for that.!

Which we don't talk about here but I used it on an older tablet, as a way of preparing my Google apps to run on my old amazon tablet. And for reducing the adverts in CNN and other news apps.
There is probably a thread on why we don't talk about it..
L..... P.........

Dunno if it is extinct now, or still out in the wild. It was back in android 4 days that I came across it.

[DiapDealer]

[QUOTE=stumped;3445043]

Originally Posted by DiapDealer

....... Stripping the Google Play licensing portions from the app is probably a nightmare itself.
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Not so, there's an app for that.!

Which we don't talk about here but I used it on an older tablet, as a way of preparing my Google apps to run on my old amazon tablet. And for reducing the adverts in CNN and other news apps.
There is probably a thread on why we don't talk about it..
L..... P.........

Dunno if it is extinct now, or still out in the wild. It was back in android 4 days that I came across it.

That's fine and dandy for an end-user, but I was talking about developers. Amazon's licensing and requirements are different than Google's. I doubt they're going to use illicit programs to prepare their apps for sale in Amazon's store.

Did 4.0.2 fix any of the issues you had?

[Steadyhands]

I'm still getting the odd page skip effect. Starting to narrow down things, seems more likely to happen between chapters. I'll begin to look into the epub and see if there is anything in that area in common.
using 4.02.

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[QUOTE=DiapDealer;3445549]

Originally Posted by stumped

That's fine and dandy for an end-user, but I was talking about developers. Amazon's licensing and requirements are different than Google's. I doubt they're going to use illicit programs to prepare their apps for sale in Amazon's store.

Did 4.0.2 fix any of the issues you had?

i was not being particularly serious re licencing
as at last might , I@d not been offered 4.0.2 - will go check

AFAIK amazon app licencing is regularly checked by the app store manager not by the android OS - on non amazon hardware, if you remove the app store app then your amazon apps no longer work- they may work for one day ..until the next check..
that also means go can't use amazon apps offline on an android tablet for any great length of time in aeroplane mode. that check seems to need a server connection.
and the " totally free " underground apps will not work if you turn off"report stats back to amazon"
whereas Google play deals with the licencing when it does the install and does not bug you thereafter.

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4.0.2 has NOT fixed etheir bug that i reported before - 3 digit last read page numbers on home screen are still cut to 2 digit, and books- details view - is still badly cropping cover thumbnails

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but the good news of the say is we found the kindle we'd reported lost, down the back of the dressing table - and it only took a hour! on amazon chat to get it re activated & to find a way past the "forgot my parental controls" password challenge. We went round in so many circle where she' saying now tap... and I am saying - it wont let me- that option is greyed out... but eventually she game me a hint code for the password screen and forced a factory settings reset. Luckily we don't subscribe to the let's store x thousand books on the kindle club so it may be back as it was in another hour or so

meanwhile - we await 4.0.3 from Bookari....

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another buggy feature. I am patiently trying to find a use for their cloud feature...
a book can be in 3 states, local, synchronised, or " archived" = cloud only
so using their user guide as a test book, since it is easily re-downloaded if lost - I read the chapter about cloud, and then I archived it. So far so good, but then i could see NO way to "un-archive it" . and any instructions were in the inaccessible archived book
now that could just be me being dumb so if anyone can easily archive and un-archive from the same device - do tell please
Related issues that I did not fully check
1.when you sync a book it is moved to the bookari sync folder. when you un-sync it does it get put back to where it originally came from ? I suspect not. I suspect it becomes an unsycned book within the sync folder.

2. there are 2 ways to delete a synced book. [ now this test was in my v3 install so it way be slightly different in v4.] one is the obvious tick it and tap delete in the footer. but the user manual says tick it then long tap the sync button until you see an options menu. that has stuff like delete book only or book and notes, and the option to delete here or delete everywhere.
so it is uncear which permuation the simple " delete option defaults to

[Jean-Marie]

Hi all !
I've been away for a while, but extremely active. Sorry about this silence. We're doing a huge bugfix session these days as you hopefully noticed. I haven't read all the latest messages, I just looked at the last page here. My support will browse the thread but I think some of you are already in touch with them.

Originally Posted by stumped

4.0.2 has NOT fixed their bug that i reported before - 3 digit last read page numbers on home screen are still cut to 2 digit, and books- details view - is still badly cropping cover thumbnails

Page numbers on home page issue: Fixed a few minutes ago --> for 4.0.4 !
Covers "broken": this is... a design choice ! Sorry if it doesn't please everyone. BTW in thumbnail mode, we display them entirely.
Best,

[Jean-Marie]

I also saw that some of you complained about the Amazon version staying un-updated for a while: we've published it this morning ! So it will now be kept up-to-date.
Cheers

[Jean-Marie]

Hi Steadyhands,

We're trying to reproduce that. Until now, no luck but we definitely want to fix that asap. Did you send details (a book maybe) to our customer support ?

Originally Posted by Steadyhands

I'm still getting the odd page skip effect. Starting to narrow down things, seems more likely to happen between chapters. I'll begin to look into the epub and see if there is anything in that area in common.
using 4.02.

[stumped]

Originally Posted by Jean-Marie

I also saw that some of you complained about the Amazon version staying un-updated for a while: we've published it this morning ! So it will now be kept up-to-date.
Cheers

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1. I just checked amazon UK - still at version 3.15 July 16.

2. how can you pass off cropping huge borders of covers in book view details as a "design feature". what was wrong with the v3 details view design which did not crop anything ?
In some cases you now even crop off the title and/or the author?. Since that's the only one of of the 5 views which shows reading progress / number of last page read, I would like it to be pleasing to the eye - so no ugly cropping.

3. Archiving: despite when your support guys say - in amazon version 3.15 there is NO WAY to unarchive a book from the device that archived it. I have done this test 3 times now: download as a test your user guide, then sync it, then archive it.... and wait for that process to complete. Now they say, I should be able to change the view filter to archive and tap the cover to get it back. I see it in archive view but NO- if i tap it I get "error : book not on device what you do want to do...." and 3 useless options like search the device !

...well the answer to "what do you want to do " right now is " I want to switch to moon+ reader "!
Seriously I am this close to giving up with both v3 and with v4. I will give it one more week of fixes to see if improved by year end, otherwise its Moon +1 bookari -1

PS I just read the recent reviews on Google Play - you are getting many 1 star reviews, most of them saying "used to be great- why did you have to go break it ?"
so please - take the platform, tell us what you have done that makes v4 better than v 3.. and tell us why there has had to be ~10 releases in 2 days ( as reported by some google reviewers)

[DiapDealer]

Originally Posted by stumped

.PS I just read the recent reviews on Google Play - you are getting many 1 star reviews, most of them saying "used to be great- why did you have to go break it ?"

I think reviews like that are a little over-dramatic, myself. I've read three books since the release of v4, and I've hardly noticed any changes (except when they're pointed out to me). I'd hardly call that "broken."

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i would not call it "broken " either - just saying that there are several posting to google play reviews, who probably don't post here., some of them seem to have way worse issues ( though it coud be user error in some cases I guess.
even though it's panto season, I did not really want to play " oh yes it is ( updated) , oh no it isn't..." re Amazon versions so I was cross when I wrote the last post. I am not seeing 4.04 on Google play either
and here's amazon.co.uk as at 1 minute ago:

Bookari 28 Jun 2016
by Mantano
Latest Updates
What's new in version 3.0.15

and here's the 10 updates in 2 days comment from play store reviews
"Buggy and now the 10th update within 2 days It's ridiculous how often this app is updated... Way too much errors, develop. Patching frequently. Constantly getting worse. Try moon+ reader... Update 4.0. .: no major improvements.. Needs a re-design, especially shelfs, import books, settings spread over different sub menus.. Confusing"

we go 5 months with no updates then 10 come along at once

the new andorid version home page is listed as an improvement.
for me i'ts just another non-skippable page that I have to flip through every single time I open the app, in order to get to the bookshelf page.

[DiapDealer]

Isn't "10" an exaggeration too, though?

We had 3.0.16 followed shortly by v4. Then .0.1, .0.2, and .0.3. Now we hear there's a 4.0.4 in the works. It's several, sure, but nowhere near "10". Besides, I'm not one who views several bug-fix releases in a short period of time to be a bad thing. Tells me someone's actively trying to get things tweaked just right.

Originally Posted by stumped

the new andorid version home page is listed as an improvement.
for me i'ts just another non-skippable page that I have to flip through every single time I open the app, in order to get to the bookshelf page.

But the non-skippable Home page was already present in v3. That's nothing new. If you leave Bookari running in the background you don't have to see the Home page, but starting it fresh; the non-skippable Home page has been around since before v4.

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Originally Posted by DiapDealer

Isn't "10" an exaggeration too, though?

We had 3.0.16 followed shortly by v4. Then .0.1, .0.2, and .0.3. Now we hear there's a 4.0.4 in the works. It's several, sure, but nowhere near "10". Besides, I'm not one who views several bug-fix releases in a short period of time to be a bad thing. Tells me someone's actively trying to get things tweaked just right.

10, well I have not been tracking that closely but there can be several builds within a single dot release.,
The danger with rushed bug fixes is the they can introduce new bugs.
The better solution I think is to have a fast beta users channel, like with cc and with Google Chrome, you sign up for that or wait for the hopefully less buggy mainstream releases.