New version of DRM removal tools ("DeDRM") - Page 34

ScalyFreak · 03-09-2016, 09:29 PM

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Originally Posted by MikeB1972

It should be fairly simple for the upgrade to re-encrypt existing books.
Even easier for the new software to read both encryption types and just download any new books with the new method.

Please don't post that where Amazon can see it.

(Note for moderators and Amazon: That was a joke. Piracy is always bad and should never be done.)

eschwartz · 03-09-2016, 09:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ScalyFreak

Please don't post that where Amazon can see it.

(Note for moderators and Amazon: That was a joke. Piracy is always bad and should never be done.)

Except for when it isn't piracy, e.g. you bought the book and you downloaded it into Kindle for PC/Mac.

That is the only reason why your encryption keys matter, if it is your installation Kindle for PC/Mac.

The moderators around here won't come down with the ban hammer for speaking with approval of DeDRMing your own books.

It's the dirty thieves who download books they never paid for that get mauled.

odamizu · 03-09-2016, 11:19 PM

Curiosity got the better of me.

I updated to K4Mac 1.15.0 (from 1.13.1). No problems with Alf. (Also, everything still downloading as AZW3, if anyone's wondering.)

I then created a dummy User on the same Mac, did a clean install of K4Mac, and Alf balked.

Going back to my real User profile, and K4Mac and Alf still playing nicely together.

DuckieTigger · 03-10-2016, 12:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ScalyFreak

Please don't post that where Amazon can see it.

(Note for moderators and Amazon: That was a joke. Piracy is always bad and should never be done.)

Do you seriously believe that Amazon doesn't keep a close eye on deDRM tools? Even if you may think so, but it really isn't a widespread problem or even common to remove DRM. The ones that do are by far in the minority.

cromag · 03-10-2016, 12:21 AM

DRM improvement has got to be a serious source of conflict for them. I only just recently got a Kindle. I've been buying ebooks from them for years simply because I could tweak them to view on my ereaders. From my perspective that adds up to a small fortune. Now Amazon's concept of a "fortune" may is probably a bit bigger than mine, but there are a lot of folks out here like me.

lkmiller · 03-10-2016, 07:08 AM

I updated to Kindle for PC version 1.15 at the end of Feb, and Alf is still fine. All reports of problems I've seen so far are for fresh installs of Kindle for PC/Mac. But I'd probably hold off myself if I hadn't already updated.

HarryT · 03-10-2016, 07:21 AM

Does anyone know if it's possible to copy an installed version of K4PC from one PC to another to avoid these problems? The reason I ask is that I'm about to buy a new PC, and it would be major pain not to have a K4PC installation I couldn't use in my eBook buying workflow.

pdurrant · 03-10-2016, 08:08 AM

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Originally Posted by HarryT

Does anyone know if it's possible to copy an installed version of K4PC from one PC to another to avoid these problems? The reason I ask is that I'm about to buy a new PC, and it would be major pain not to have a K4PC installation I couldn't use in my eBook buying workflow.

Perhaps if the usernames were identical, and you copied over all the preferences (some are invisible by default), and Amazon was fooled into thinking it was the same as your old computer, it might work.

But I wouldn't bet on it.

HarryT · 03-10-2016, 08:12 AM

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Originally Posted by pdurrant

Perhaps if the usernames were identical, and you copied over all the preferences (some are invisible by default), and Amazon was fooled into thinking it was the same as your old computer, it might work.

But I wouldn't bet on it.

Nor me. Hope the experts at Alf's blog are able to get around this issue soon.

Apache · 03-10-2016, 08:43 AM

Install the old hd in the new computer and use it as a secondary storage drive.
Or get a new storage drive and mirror the old drive to it.
Apache

DiapDealer · 03-10-2016, 08:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Apache

Install the old hd in the new computer and use it as a secondary storage drive.
Or get a new storage drive and mirror the old drive to it.
Apache

I doubt that would work. Suffice it to say that even if the Kindle application is fooled into thinking its hard drive hasn't changed, there are other factors in play.

WT Sharpe · 03-10-2016, 09:22 AM

The last two books I bought from Amazon I had to download straight to my pc before Alf could work his magic. Downloading them directly to calibre from my new Voyage was impossible. The extra step is a pain, but as I have hundreds of unread public domain books as well as way too many unread purchased books, I've been needing a reason to stop buying books for a while.

issybird · 03-10-2016, 09:39 AM

Just another anecdotal account: I didn't buy much from Amazon back in the day when I was all epub, but once I came around to Alf because it was too inconvenient not to have all mycurrrent books on all my devices I bought quite a bit. If future purchases can't be put on my Kobos, that's the end of that, though; I've not yet transitioned to Kindle (although I have no doubt I'll be there eventually, as Kindle will be the last man standing IRT e-ink devices).

I'm also on the verge of a new computer. For various reasons including this, I should keep Old Bessie running, but still, quelle inconvenience.

Funny. What with Kobo's going over to VIP-only discounts and Amazon's cracking down on de-DRMing, I may not need this thread any longer. Oh, the irony! My overbuying in recent years is looking like a better and better investment.

HarryT · 03-10-2016, 09:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WT Sharpe

The last two books I bought from Amazon I had to download straight to my pc before Alf could work his magic. Downloading them directly to calibre from my new Voyage was impossible.

That would be because they were in KFX format, which Calibre can't handle.

pdurrant · 03-10-2016, 10:03 AM

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Originally Posted by issybird

Funny. What with Kobo's going over to VIP-only discounts and Amazon's cracking down on de-DRMing, I may not need this thread any longer. Oh, the irony! My overbuying in recent years is looking like a better and better investment.

I feel somewhat the same. Although I do still have a Kindle and an old iOS device from which I can liberate my Amazon books. My Kobo purchases have certainly gone way down.

03-09-2016, 11:19 PM	#498
odamizu just an egg Posts: 1,827 Karma: 7943430 Join Date: Mar 2015 Device: Kindle, iOS	Curiosity got the better of me. I updated to K4Mac 1.15.0 (from 1.13.1). No problems with Alf. (Also, everything still downloading as AZW3, if anyone's wondering.) I then created a dummy User on the same Mac, did a clean install of K4Mac, and Alf balked. Going back to my real User profile, and K4Mac and Alf still playing nicely together. Last edited by odamizu; 03-10-2016 at 12:14 AM. Reason: new info

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lkmiller Laura Posts: 1,529 Karma: 23597272 Join Date: Nov 2009 Device: Kobo Sage, Kobo Elipsa, Nook Glowlight 4 Plus, Kindle Oasis 2	I updated to Kindle for PC version 1.15 at the end of Feb, and Alf is still fine. All reports of problems I've seen so far are for fresh installs of Kindle for PC/Mac. But I'd probably hold off myself if I hadn't already updated.

03-10-2016, 07:21 AM	#502
HarryT eBook Enthusiast Posts: 85,544 Karma: 93383099 Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: UK Device: Kindle Oasis 2, iPad Pro 10.5", iPhone 6	Does anyone know if it's possible to copy an installed version of K4PC from one PC to another to avoid these problems? The reason I ask is that I'm about to buy a new PC, and it would be major pain not to have a K4PC installation I couldn't use in my eBook buying workflow.

03-10-2016, 08:43 AM	#505
Apache Readaholic Posts: 5,277 Karma: 90000484 Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: South Georgia Device: Surface Pro 6 / Galaxy Tab A 8"	Install the old hd in the new computer and use it as a secondary storage drive. Or get a new storage drive and mirror the old drive to it. Apache

03-10-2016, 09:22 AM	#507
WT Sharpe Bah, humbug! Posts: 39,072 Karma: 157049943 Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Chesapeake, VA, USA Device: Kindle Oasis, iPad Pro, & a Samsung Galaxy S9.	The last two books I bought from Amazon I had to download straight to my pc before Alf could work his magic. Downloading them directly to calibre from my new Voyage was impossible. The extra step is a pain, but as I have hundreds of unread public domain books as well as way too many unread purchased books, I've been needing a reason to stop buying books for a while.

03-10-2016, 09:39 AM	#508
issybird o saeclum infacetum Posts: 21,295 Karma: 234636059 Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: New England Device: Mini, H2O, Glo HD, Aura One, PW4, PW5	Just another anecdotal account: I didn't buy much from Amazon back in the day when I was all epub, but once I came around to Alf because it was too inconvenient not to have all mycurrrent books on all my devices I bought quite a bit. If future purchases can't be put on my Kobos, that's the end of that, though; I've not yet transitioned to Kindle (although I have no doubt I'll be there eventually, as Kindle will be the last man standing IRT e-ink devices). I'm also on the verge of a new computer. For various reasons including this, I should keep Old Bessie running, but still, quelle inconvenience. Funny. What with Kobo's going over to VIP-only discounts and Amazon's cracking down on de-DRMing, I may not need this thread any longer. Oh, the irony! My overbuying in recent years is looking like a better and better investment.

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