Dealing with Kindle for PC/Mac 1.19 and KFX in calibre - Page 101

lkmiller · 05-28-2022, 05:04 AM

The solution at the bottom of the first post has been foolproof at preventing updates for me. Replace the updates folder with a text file, no extension. For Windows, jhowell has attached a batch file which will do this for you.

JSWolf · 05-28-2022, 05:09 AM

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Originally Posted by LivresInOz

[COLOR="Blue"][B]The latest Windows update seems to enable Kindle to do forced updates.

This has nothing to do with Windows. It's Amazon doing the forced update. Read the first post of this thread as you can find info on stopping the forced update on older version of KindleForPC.

LivresInOz · 06-03-2022, 12:46 AM

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Originally Posted by JSWolf

This has nothing to do with Windows. It's Amazon doing the forced update. Read the first post of this thread as you can find info on stopping the forced update on older version of KindleForPC.

The reason I conclude that is:

* When I allowed more space on my virtual drive with Windows 10 on it, Windows updated to latest, and the next time I ran Kindle, it also updated

* Since I reverted to my previous snapshot and made sure there was no room for Windows to update, nothing has happened.

* Note also that until recently, Kindle has never force-updated on me

I still believe Windows is ENABLING it to force-update.

LivresInOz · 06-03-2022, 12:55 AM

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Originally Posted by lkmiller

The solution at the bottom of the first post has been foolproof at preventing updates for me. Replace the updates folder with a text file, no extension. For Windows, jhowell has attached a batch file which will do this for you.

Thanks! Saved me a lot of reading.

I've tried the batch file in that post and seems to be working okay so far.

For everyone's info, that bit says as follows:

"The Kindle app can be aggressive about updating itself to the latest version. Even after the option to automatically install updates is deselected the software sometimes will update itself unexpectedly.

To block automatic updates under Windows locate the "updates" folder within your Kindle for PC installation and replace it with a file of the same name. The attached batch file ("disable k4pc download.bat") will perform that process automatically as long as Kindle for PC has been installed for single user use. After running this file Kindle for PC will still try to download the new update each time it is restarted, but it will be unable to do so.

When running the app if a dialog pops up indicating that a newer version is available always choose the option to "skip this version"."

JSWolf · 06-03-2022, 05:02 AM

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Originally Posted by LivresInOz

The reason I conclude that is:

* When I allowed more space on my virtual drive with Windows 10 on it, Windows updated to latest, and the next time I ran Kindle, it also updated

* Since I reverted to my previous snapshot and made sure there was no room for Windows to update, nothing has happened.

* Note also that until recently, Kindle has never force-updated on me

I still believe Windows is ENABLING it to force-update.

You are 100% wrong. Amazon is doing the forced update.

jhowell · 06-03-2022, 07:52 AM

The Kindle for PC app checks Amazon’s server for instructions at startup. If the server indicates that a “forced” update is needed then Kindle for PC downloads the installer and launches it. If there is insufficient storage to download and install the update (or the destination folder is blocked) then this process will fail.

mkelley · 06-10-2022, 06:41 PM

I still have the version that allows me to move the books into Calibre (because I read the books I buy on other devices rather than just Kindle/Paperwhite) but I'm having trouble with two books that came out recently (maybe in the last week or so?) that won't download in this version of Kindle for PC. I'm afraid they may not work at all without upgrading - has anyone had this problem (and found a solution?)?

Edit: Crap, I just looked and I have version 1.34.1 - somehow it updated itself without me allowing it (it did ask and I said no, but apparently it did something anyway).

Okay - so am I totally screwed now? I still can't read the two books I just bought even in AZW format (they won't download).

jhowell · 06-10-2022, 08:53 PM

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Originally Posted by mkelley

Okay - so am I totally screwed now? I still can't read the two books I just bought even in AZW format (they won't download).

Some books are not compatible with Kindle for PC. If you can’t make it work you can always return the books for a refund.

See the first post of this thread for information on finding older versions and blocking forced updates.

mkelley · 06-11-2022, 07:15 AM

Okay, by reading the first post here I was able to find another way to download the AZW3 book to my computer (since I own a couple of Paperwhites). But I can't find a way to open or convert that book to EPUB (for my preferred reading program on my iPhone - I kind of hate Kindle) as it's digitally protected. I've done this a ton of times in the past but this isn't working now - did something change? (I've been away from Calibre a LONG time - long story but medical issues have kept me from even trying to buy eBooks for a few years).

I'm using Calibre 2.83, if that matters.

Edit: Okay, I tried downloading the latest DRM removal plugin (which is on my old version of Calibre but who knows how old that version of the plugin is) and installed it into Calibre 5.21 (on my laptop computer - wife must have had it there) and still no luck with these books. Any advice other than giving up?

Edit2: Okay, I should probably just delete this response but maybe it will help others. First post in this thread gave me the info to download the book to my Paperwhite via USB. Took the file and put it into Calibre with the DRM removal program but didn't realize I needed to enter the SSN of my Paperwhite(s) into the plugin. Now all is well and I can convert to a format I LIKE (Epub - works across ALL my preferred readers). Thanks to this forum and the writer of the DRM plugin!

JSWolf · 06-11-2022, 11:03 AM

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Originally Posted by mkelley

I'm using Calibre 2.83, if that matters.

You really should update Calibre to the latest version. I cannot say if the DeDRM plugin would even work. And there are a number of plugins that won't work with that old a version.

GranSenser · 06-21-2022, 05:07 AM

Do you still need kindlekey1.k4i?
I have generated it for now, but I am not sure if this is still needed or not.

pdurrant · 06-21-2022, 06:19 AM

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Originally Posted by GranSenser

Do you still need kindlekey1.k4i?
I have generated it for now, but I am not sure if this is still needed or not.

That's a detailed DRM removal question, which isn't allowed at MobileRead.

GranSenser · 06-21-2022, 12:06 PM

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Originally Posted by pdurrant

That's a detailed DRM removal question, which isn't allowed at MobileRead.

I didn't know sorry.

theducks · 06-21-2022, 12:39 PM

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Originally Posted by GranSenser

I didn't know sorry.

If you have not done so already. Please review all MR guidelines (link at the bottom of all forum pages).

This particular one is to keep the Lawyers away. Others keep things friendly and help keep the house neat.

pdurrant · 06-22-2022, 02:53 AM

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Originally Posted by GranSenser

I didn't know sorry.

My apologies. I came across more brusque than intended. I just meant you won't get an answer here.

06-10-2022, 06:41 PM	#1507
mkelley Enthusiast Posts: 31 Karma: 10 Join Date: Dec 2011 Device: Kindle and iPad	I still have the version that allows me to move the books into Calibre (because I read the books I buy on other devices rather than just Kindle/Paperwhite) but I'm having trouble with two books that came out recently (maybe in the last week or so?) that won't download in this version of Kindle for PC. I'm afraid they may not work at all without upgrading - has anyone had this problem (and found a solution?)? Edit: Crap, I just looked and I have version 1.34.1 - somehow it updated itself without me allowing it (it did ask and I said no, but apparently it did something anyway). Okay - so am I totally screwed now? I still can't read the two books I just bought even in AZW format (they won't download). Last edited by mkelley; 06-10-2022 at 06:45 PM.

06-11-2022, 07:15 AM	#1509
mkelley Enthusiast Posts: 31 Karma: 10 Join Date: Dec 2011 Device: Kindle and iPad	Okay, by reading the first post here I was able to find another way to download the AZW3 book to my computer (since I own a couple of Paperwhites). But I can't find a way to open or convert that book to EPUB (for my preferred reading program on my iPhone - I kind of hate Kindle) as it's digitally protected. I've done this a ton of times in the past but this isn't working now - did something change? (I've been away from Calibre a LONG time - long story but medical issues have kept me from even trying to buy eBooks for a few years). I'm using Calibre 2.83, if that matters. Edit: Okay, I tried downloading the latest DRM removal plugin (which is on my old version of Calibre but who knows how old that version of the plugin is) and installed it into Calibre 5.21 (on my laptop computer - wife must have had it there) and still no luck with these books. Any advice other than giving up? Edit2: Okay, I should probably just delete this response but maybe it will help others. First post in this thread gave me the info to download the book to my Paperwhite via USB. Took the file and put it into Calibre with the DRM removal program but didn't realize I needed to enter the SSN of my Paperwhite(s) into the plugin. Now all is well and I can convert to a format I LIKE (Epub - works across ALL my preferred readers). Thanks to this forum and the writer of the DRM plugin! Last edited by mkelley; 06-11-2022 at 07:35 AM.

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05-28-2022, 05:04 AM	#1501
lkmiller Laura Posts: 1,540 Karma: 23597272 Join Date: Nov 2009 Device: Kobo Sage, Kobo Elipsa, Nook Glowlight 4 Plus, Kindle Oasis 2	The solution at the bottom of the first post has been foolproof at preventing updates for me. Replace the updates folder with a text file, no extension. For Windows, jhowell has attached a batch file which will do this for you.

06-03-2022, 07:52 AM	#1506
jhowell Grand Sorcerer Posts: 7,094 Karma: 91592869 Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Charlottesville, VA Device: Kindles	The Kindle for PC app checks Amazon’s server for instructions at startup. If the server indicates that a “forced” update is needed then Kindle for PC downloads the installer and launches it. If there is insufficient storage to download and install the update (or the destination folder is blocked) then this process will fail.

06-21-2022, 05:07 AM	#1511
GranSenser Member Retired Posts: 13 Karma: 10 Join Date: Jun 2022 Device: KindleForPC	Do you still need kindlekey1.k4i? I have generated it for now, but I am not sure if this is still needed or not.

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