Why so many newbies with so much karma? - Page 16

rkomar · 08-12-2011, 04:04 PM

@neilmarr: I would vote no to getting rid of 'karma'. I think you're right that it doesn't fulfill it's raison d'etre too well. It has been too complicated a concept for that single purpose. But I find that that complication adds a richness to this forum that I would miss if it was removed.

And karma to you for keeping things interesting and healthy around here by bringing unsavoury topics to light. It is much appreciated on this end.

MrsJoseph · 08-12-2011, 04:09 PM

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Originally Posted by neilmarr

On second thoughts, Karmalot is a silly place. Let's not go there.

Karma has become utterly meaningless in the two and a half short years I've been a daily visitor and contributor here (not because I came here), and this thread has become silly enough to prove it. If negative karma was possible, I'd no doubt lose my own immediately through this single post alone.

This thread must have generated enough wasted karma to devalue the system to the extent that it has now been proven to be a less than useless guide to a member's true value to our group.

I tend to welcome all newcomers (no karma potential) only offer technical advice when I can (severely limiting my contribution to such threads) and comment very seriously and, I hope, constructively where I can offer sound assistance in my own specialised field (and as has been mentioned, that attracts no brownie points). I ignore threads that are frivolous and not e-reading specific (I don't want or need to know what's in your wardrobe or in your glass or on your dinner plate or what someone's favourite soup recipe is) and those as the threads where worthless karma seems to be spawned.

Maybe someone should post a simple poll (I'm far too busy to do it myself) one quick question 'should karma be scrapped'. Two options only; 'yes' or 'no'. No invitation to explain why (that's already been covered here and in earlier threads on the subject). Then mods should take note of the result and act upon it.

My own vote would be for 'yes' it should be scrapped because -- well intentioned as it was -- it has become abused and is utterly useless in terms of a member's true value to the community here.

Best wishes and heart-felt karma to all ... but not in numbers and not in this (I believe) redundant thread. Neil

I understand your point but disagree. I love receiving karma and it certainly has never felt frivolous to me. I've stated opinions that have seriously PO'd members - but receive a wave of Karma in response. It's not the points that the "point," it's the comments from other members.

Maybe you are much less emotional than me but I am touched when a member gives me karma and leaves a note - sometimes it's a thank you for a comment, a news article, or a simple "you really made my day a little brighter."

It's good to be serious - and I've given much karma to Worldwalker in appreciation for his in-depth, well thought out, serious posts - but it doesn't have to be serious all the time.

All work and no play can make Neil a dull boy.

lestatar · 08-12-2011, 04:13 PM

This has been a really interesting thread. I never would have guessed that it would garner so much attention. Perhaps I am a bit too laissez faire...dunno.

As someone who has inexplicably benefited from the largesse of others despite being here a relatively short time, I do enjoy the karma system. Still, if it were to disappear tomorrow, I am not sure how much I would miss it.

But I will continue my personal practice of throwing out K to folks who make me laugh, who post a clever turn of phrase or who simply make me think, "Huh...".

FWIW...

orlok · 08-12-2011, 04:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pdurrant

Try to overcome it. I appreciate all Karma given, whoever gives it. In this case, it really is the thought (& comment) that count, not the amount of Karma.

Quote:

Originally Posted by neilmarr

On second thoughts, Karmalot is a silly place. Let's not go there.

Very good. Like it

Loosheesh · 08-12-2011, 05:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pdurrant

Try to overcome it. I appreciate all Karma given, whoever gives it. In this case, it really is the thought (& comment) that count, not the amount of Karma.

(And thanks for helping me embrace the mysteries of Karmarithmetic ... from now on I'll just keep karm' and carry on

)

pdurrant · 08-12-2011, 05:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Loosheesh

I'll just keep karm' and carry on

)

Lovely.

montsnmags · 08-12-2011, 06:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rkomar

On the topic of karma, I find that when I read a comment I really like and decide to give someone some karma, I'll usually back out of it if I see that they already have vastly more karma than I do. It would feel like trying to slip a millionaire a $1 tip for being nice. I know it's silly, that all karma is appreciated, but it's a feeling that's hard to shake. Does anyone else have the same hang-up?

Exactly the opposite...I find that, while I always like receiving karma from anybody, to receive a "$1 tip" from new folk (whether new to MR, new to me, or new to karma) is the time when karma means the most to me. I understand your feeling, don't get me wrong, but I think it might be a feeling you can let go. You, I, we, who care for the giver's intent behind the pressing of the karma button, appreciate it and its written thoughts for the simple feeling of appreciation, care, support, thanks, camaraderie, friendship...

Cheers,
Marc

Phogg · 08-12-2011, 06:19 PM

Alles klar, Herr Karmassar.

/Falco

montsnmags · 08-12-2011, 06:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Phogg

Alles klar, Herr Karmassar.

/Falco

"Er war ein Mann der Frauen
Frauen liebten seinen Punk"]

No, no, just stop it, Mr. Phogg. Some of us have these songs on the devices we're using to write this very sentence, and pretty soon I'll end up wasting away the morning dancing and singing along to Ça Plane Pour Moi, its covers, and its Jet Boy Jet Girl origins, or perhaps the many variations of Popcorn also held in my music library.

No karma for you!

Cheers,
Marc (oh, okay...I can't stay mad at someone who so readily quotes Falco

)

ApK · 08-12-2011, 06:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by montsnmags

[I] (oh, okay...I can't stay mad at someone who so readily quotes Falco

)

Don't believe him. He was really quoting "After The Fire."

DrDln · 08-12-2011, 07:10 PM

I have no clue what is this karma about and how does one get it. I very well know the meaning of this Sanskrit word.

fulltimer · 08-12-2011, 07:32 PM

As one of those with small karma I suppose I shoud feel left out but instead of posting all the time I read and learn and appreciate the site and all the posters who educate me.

sabredog · 08-12-2011, 07:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Phogg

Alles klar, Herr Karmassar.

/Falco

Tune in now rattling around in my brain and I have only just started the day!

Time to hide under karmaflage....

DixieGal · 08-12-2011, 07:43 PM

Karmaflage! Brilliant!

Ajax · 08-12-2011, 07:50 PM

Everyone is just trying to get as much karma as they can before karmageddon.

You know it's going to happen in 2012!

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08-12-2011, 04:04 PM	#226
rkomar Wizard Posts: 3,059 Karma: 18821071 Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Sudbury, ON, Canada Device: PRS-505, PB 902, PRS-T1, PB 623, PB 840, PB 633	@neilmarr: I would vote no to getting rid of 'karma'. I think you're right that it doesn't fulfill it's raison d'etre too well. It has been too complicated a concept for that single purpose. But I find that that complication adds a richness to this forum that I would miss if it was removed. And karma to you for keeping things interesting and healthy around here by bringing unsavoury topics to light. It is much appreciated on this end.

08-12-2011, 04:13 PM	#228
lestatar LB's lolz Mutt Minion Posts: 2,902 Karma: 5700001 Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Hong Kong now but NYC forever Device: Kindle3, GalaxyTab, BB Bold9700, BB 8300, Sony Clie, Palm Vx, Palm III	This has been a really interesting thread. I never would have guessed that it would garner so much attention. Perhaps I am a bit too laissez faire...dunno. As someone who has inexplicably benefited from the largesse of others despite being here a relatively short time, I do enjoy the karma system. Still, if it were to disappear tomorrow, I am not sure how much I would miss it. But I will continue my personal practice of throwing out K to folks who make me laugh, who post a clever turn of phrase or who simply make me think, "Huh...". FWIW...

08-12-2011, 06:19 PM	#233
Phogg PHD in Horribleness Posts: 2,320 Karma: 23599604 Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: In the ironbound section, near avenue L Device: Just a whole bunch. I guess I am a collector now.	Alles klar, Herr Karmassar. /Falco

08-12-2011, 07:10 PM	#236
DrDln Banned Posts: 1,527 Karma: 2349214 Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Mountain House, CA Device: kindle	I have no clue what is this karma about and how does one get it. I very well know the meaning of this Sanskrit word.

08-12-2011, 07:32 PM	#237
fulltimer Enthusiast Posts: 26 Karma: 23438 Join Date: Nov 2009 Device: K2, K3(3G-WIFI), Fire	As one of those with small karma I suppose I shoud feel left out but instead of posting all the time I read and learn and appreciate the site and all the posters who educate me.

08-12-2011, 07:43 PM	#239
DixieGal Hi There! Posts: 7,473 Karma: 2930523 Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Ft Lauderdale Device: iPad	Karmaflage! Brilliant!

08-12-2011, 07:50 PM	#240
Ajax Addict Posts: 386 Karma: 17083352 Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Texas Device: K4 Touch, Kindle Fire, HP Touchpad	Everyone is just trying to get as much karma as they can before karmageddon. You know it's going to happen in 2012!

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