Adventures in discovering the K4PC PID. - Page 19

skindle · 01-02-2010, 04:49 PM

skindle version 6 posted, removes inadvertent cygwin dependency in the executable

A Nonny Mouse · 01-03-2010, 10:45 AM

This (v6) ran OK on a couple of files (got the Success! Enjoy!) message & no error messages - But Calibre (6.29) chokes on them, imports them OK but will not display or convert format - (K4pc opens & displays them OK)

Am I missing a step somewhere here?

Edit:-
Doh!
By sheer chance the two free books I chose to test this on are both Topaz (TPZ0) at start of the file, checked several more with hex editor none were - works fine on those

Reading the posts I thought I would get a message from skindle if they were Topaz

rcuadro · 01-03-2010, 10:56 AM

I hate rapidshare lol

SammyWI · 01-03-2010, 10:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by skindle

skindle version 6 posted, removes inadvertent cygwin dependency in the executable

Thank you for the update. I thought I was doing something wrong when I got the cygwin error. I did have to play around with the command line to get it to work. It's been a long time since I've messed with command line functions

. I like that your solution does not directly depend on the kindle4pc program.

And thanks to all that have worked on these fair use tools! darkreverser, i<3cabbages, labba, skindle and anyone else that I have missed:

The ability to read ebooks that I have purchased on whatever hardware I choose (now and in the future) is very important to me. Hopefully this work will also lead to tools to convert the dreaded Topaz format as well.

landkole · 01-05-2010, 11:11 AM

I am SOO CONFUSED!!! could someone please IN LAYMAN'S terms tell me if I CAN BUY software to convert Kindle for PC books to a compatible format so I can sync with my sony reader?????? landkols@far.midco.net

rcuadro · 01-05-2010, 11:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by landkole

I am SOO CONFUSED!!! could someone please IN LAYMAN'S terms tell me if I CAN BUY software to convert Kindle for PC books to a compatible format so I can sync with my sony reader?????? landkols@far.midco.net

No. You cannot purchase software to legally remove DRM from eBooks.

delphidb96 · 01-05-2010, 02:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rcuadro

No. You cannot purchase software to legally remove DRM from eBooks.

What he said. You *can* find python scripts on the Internet which will allow you to do so, but so many countries have made doing so illegal that you have to be willing to 'break the law' to use them. Of course, using them also ensures that no matter what happens to the Kindle and the various Kindle formats, you'll be able to enjoy your purchased ebooks for as long as you want.

So it is up to you.

Derek

HansTWN · 01-05-2010, 09:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by delphidb96

What he said. You *can* find python scripts on the Internet which will allow you to do so, but so many countries have made doing so illegal that you have to be willing to 'break the law' to use them. Of course, using them also ensures that no matter what happens to the Kindle and the various Kindle formats, you'll be able to enjoy your purchased ebooks for as long as you want.

So it is up to you.

Derek

As long as the resulting files are for personal use only and you do not distribute them I think you can be sure that you will not be prosecuted. What amount would the damages be, 0.00? And prosecute their most loyal customers when there are not even imaginary damages? They would be laughed out of court. No harm, no foul.

DoctorOhh · 01-06-2010, 12:12 AM

Amazon got their first ebook sale from me. I was reading an ebook of questionable origin and I noticed it was suffering from partial encryption which I understand is typical of Mobidedrm .5 or below.

I thought that this would be the time to try K4PC and Unswindle. I downloaded the sample chapter used Unswindle on it and the resultant chapter was error free.

The price was $6.39 so I bought it. I ran Unswidle on it. I changed font size, formatting and file type in Calibre. Now that it was just like I wanted it I transferred it to my PRS-505.

Without the available tools I never would have purchased this book from Amazon.

kennyc · 01-06-2010, 05:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dwanthny

Amazon got their first ebook sale from me. I was reading an ebook of questionable origin and I noticed it was suffering from partial encryption which I understand is typical of Mobidedrm .5 or below.

I thought that this would be the time to try K4PC and Unswindle. I downloaded the sample chapter used Unswindle on it and the resultant chapter was error free.

The price was $6.39 so I bought it. I ran Unswidle on it. I changed font size, formatting and file type in Calibre. Now that it was just like I wanted it I transferred it to my PRS-505.

Without the available tools I never would have purchased this book from Amazon.

HansTWN · 01-07-2010, 12:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dwanthny

Amazon got their first ebook sale from me. I was reading an ebook of questionable origin and I noticed it was suffering from partial encryption which I understand is typical of Mobidedrm .5 or below.

I thought that this would be the time to try K4PC and Unswindle. I downloaded the sample chapter used Unswindle on it and the resultant chapter was error free.

The price was $6.39 so I bought it. I ran Unswidle on it. I changed font size, formatting and file type in Calibre. Now that it was just like I wanted it I transferred it to my PRS-505.

Without the available tools I never would have purchased this book from Amazon.

Welcome to the club!

labba · 01-07-2010, 04:36 AM

now that with SKindle we have the ability to deDRM the TPZ DRM is it now possible to convert the TPZ file to MOBI so we can use other applications to read our books?

pdurrant · 01-07-2010, 05:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by labba

now that with SKindle we have the ability to deDRM the TPZ DRM is it now possible to convert the TPZ file to MOBI so we can use other applications to read our books?

Unfortunately not yet. The encryption has been decoded, and the parts of the format can be decompressed. But that still leaves figuring out what the format is and how to convert it.

The early signs aren't good. It looks like it's a format concerned with the placement of glyphs, rather than rendering a stored text stream.

GRiker · 01-07-2010, 08:09 AM

I'm still holding out for a stored text stream. I base this hope on the fact that if you search for a word in a Topaz file, the search results show the hits in the context of the surrounding text stream, just like a MOBI file. It seems like a lot of work to recreate a text stream from the glyphs for search results.

In comparison, searching a PDF file shows the results in the context of the document. If Topaz were modeled on PDF, it seems like the search results would be shown in the same fashion.

G

labba · 01-07-2010, 08:46 AM

need to start reversing the K4PC to see how it uses the file itself to make a presentation of a TPZ file....

01-03-2010, 10:45 AM	#272
A Nonny Mouse Connoisseur Posts: 55 Karma: 272 Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Right here, right now! Device: sony prs505	This (v6) ran OK on a couple of files (got the Success! Enjoy!) message & no error messages - But Calibre (6.29) chokes on them, imports them OK but will not display or convert format - (K4pc opens & displays them OK) Am I missing a step somewhere here? Edit:- Doh! By sheer chance the two free books I chose to test this on are both Topaz (TPZ0) at start of the file, checked several more with hex editor none were - works fine on those Reading the posts I thought I would get a message from skindle if they were Topaz Last edited by A Nonny Mouse; 01-03-2010 at 11:31 AM. Reason: update

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01-02-2010, 04:49 PM	#271
skindle Member Posts: 10 Karma: 616 Join Date: Dec 2009 Device: kindle	skindle version 6 posted, removes inadvertent cygwin dependency in the executable

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rcuadro Wizard Posts: 1,686 Karma: 874275 Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Virginia Beach, VA Device: Kindle DX	I hate rapidshare lol

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landkole Junior Member Posts: 2 Karma: 10 Join Date: Jan 2010 Device: sony reader	I am SOO CONFUSED!!! could someone please IN LAYMAN'S terms tell me if I CAN BUY software to convert Kindle for PC books to a compatible format so I can sync with my sony reader?????? landkols@far.midco.net

01-06-2010, 12:12 AM	#279
DoctorOhh US Navy, Retired Posts: 9,896 Karma: 13806776 Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: North Carolina Device: Icarus Illumina XL HD, Kindle PaperWhite SE 11th Gen	Amazon got their first ebook sale from me. I was reading an ebook of questionable origin and I noticed it was suffering from partial encryption which I understand is typical of Mobidedrm .5 or below. I thought that this would be the time to try K4PC and Unswindle. I downloaded the sample chapter used Unswindle on it and the resultant chapter was error free. The price was $6.39 so I bought it. I ran Unswidle on it. I changed font size, formatting and file type in Calibre. Now that it was just like I wanted it I transferred it to my PRS-505. Without the available tools I never would have purchased this book from Amazon.

01-07-2010, 04:36 AM	#282
labba Member Posts: 23 Karma: 752 Join Date: Dec 2009 Device: none	now that with SKindle we have the ability to deDRM the TPZ DRM is it now possible to convert the TPZ file to MOBI so we can use other applications to read our books?

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GRiker Comparer of the Ephemeris Posts: 1,496 Karma: 424697 Join Date: Mar 2009 Device: iPad	I'm still holding out for a stored text stream. I base this hope on the fact that if you search for a word in a Topaz file, the search results show the hits in the context of the surrounding text stream, just like a MOBI file. It seems like a lot of work to recreate a text stream from the glyphs for search results. In comparison, searching a PDF file shows the results in the context of the document. If Topaz were modeled on PDF, it seems like the search results would be shown in the same fashion. G

01-07-2010, 08:46 AM	#285
labba Member Posts: 23 Karma: 752 Join Date: Dec 2009 Device: none	need to start reversing the K4PC to see how it uses the file itself to make a presentation of a TPZ file....

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