B&N removed download option on all books in "My Nook" library - Page 75

ZodWallop · 07-12-2015, 03:09 AM

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Originally Posted by eschwartz

You can try just deleting the appdata and associated registry keys. Or backup the Program Files folder and uninstall with RevoUninstaller.

Thanks for the info. I just found the .exe file and squirreled it way

It may be pessimistic of me, but it looks like there's only problems when you update the payment method. My current card expires 2017-ish. I'm wondering at this point if B&N (or at least the B&N e-bookstore) will still be around.

odamizu · 07-12-2015, 03:17 AM

Alf's FAQ has links for Nook Study for Mac and Windows:

Mac: https://customer-care.s3.amazonaws.c...OK%20Study.dmg

Windows: https://customer-care.s3.amazonaws.c...tudy_Setup.exe

Alf's FAQ: https://apprenticealf.wordpress.com/...removal-tools/

(Is it okay to post a link to Alf? I think so, but not 100% sure. If not, my apologies, please delete.)

IIRC, someone figured out these are the direct download links from BN's web site before BN removed them. But the links themselves still work. Ironic that BN uses Amazon's servers to host their stuff

odamizu · 07-12-2015, 03:35 AM

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Originally Posted by AnitainTN

...I'm going to have to break down & deal with ADE eventually, but I'm holding out....That, or get a Kindle.

You don't need a Kindle to get ebooks from Amazon. You can use Kindle for PC/Mac to download Kindlebooks to a computer, then run through Calibre to convert to epub or use KindleUnpack to see if an epub pops out.

I used to buy most of my ebooks from BN. Then they locked up their DRM and it was bye-bye BN, hello Amazon. I still make an epub version of every book I buy, even though I now have a Kindle. It's been easier than I expected thanks to KindleUnpack.

eschwartz · 07-12-2015, 03:35 AM

Yes, are allowed to link to Alf's blog. The forum guidelines were revised last November to allow it. In fact, it was first mentioned in this very thread: https://www.mobileread.com/forums/sho...06#post2974206

fjtorres · 07-12-2015, 06:55 AM

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Originally Posted by odamizu

Ironic that BN uses Amazon's servers to host their stuff

Makes sense, though.
They are very good, very efficient, and very cheap.
Lots of their competitors use them.
Netflix, for one.
It's good business sense. Only fanboys actually boycott a good deal. Everybody else just pretends but they never put their money where their mouth is.

Even clueless Amazon haters still buy or sell via Amazon. And not just authors, but publishers like Melville house.
Nothing like trashing the place that helps you make a living.

lkmiller · 07-12-2015, 08:31 PM

Just in case anyone needs it now that the pages are gone from the new B&N website....

Here is the direct download to Nook for PC:
http://images.barnesandnoble.com/PRe...tup_latest.exe

Nook for Mac:
http://images.barnesandnoble.com/PRe...forMac.dmg.zip

pdurrant · 07-13-2015, 01:11 AM

An update to Alf's tools has just been posted with more support for B&N encryption key retrieval now that they've changed from the key being based on your name and CC#. (Although since I haven't bought anything from B&N for ages, it's of academic interest only to me.)

AnitainTN · 07-13-2015, 05:38 PM

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Originally Posted by odamizu

You don't need a Kindle to get ebooks from Amazon. You can use Kindle for PC/Mac to download Kindlebooks to a computer, then run through Calibre to convert to epub or use KindleUnpack to see if an epub pops out.

I used to buy most of my ebooks from BN. Then they locked up their DRM and it was bye-bye BN, hello Amazon. I still make an epub version of every book I buy, even though I now have a Kindle. It's been easier than I expected thanks to KindleUnpack.

Thanks - I've looked at the KindleUnpack thread (and there to the Calibre plugin)....It left me a little confused. If my object is to end up with a good ePub, why would I use KindleUnpack instead of using Calibre to convert Amazon to ePub? I am fuzzy on mobi (old-Amazon?) vs. AZwhatzit (new-Amazon?). FWIW - I am a die-hard tablet reader because I really like cover art. I wouldn't even consider an e-reader until they came up with color versions (the Nook Color) so I could still have nice cover art.

eschwartz · 07-13-2015, 06:08 PM

The primary difference between using KindleUnpack vs. calibre conversion is that calibre will flatten the CSS. Oh, and also for performing scientifically-minded analysis of the format.

If you don't know what that means, it is a sign that you shouldn't care. I personally would not bother mentioning KindleUnpack to anyone who isn't exploring mobipocket internals, but some people have a bug about the "impurity" of converting.

(odamizu, I am unaware of you holding those kinds of opinions

but you reminded me of someone who does get into a snit about this.)

odamizu · 07-13-2015, 08:23 PM

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Originally Posted by eschwartz

... some people have a bug about the "impurity" of converting.

(odamizu, I am unaware of you holding those kinds of opinions

but you reminded me of someone who does get into a snit about this.)

LOL! eschwartz, you seem to know me so well for someone who's never met me. I do indeed have a "bug about the impurity of converting"

Quote:

Originally Posted by AnitainTN

... If my object is to end up with a good ePub, why would I use KindleUnpack instead of using Calibre to convert Amazon to ePub? I am fuzzy on mobi (old-Amazon?) vs. AZwhatzit (new-Amazon?). FWIW - I am a die-hard tablet reader because I really like cover art. I wouldn't even consider an e-reader until they came up with color versions (the Nook Color) so I could still have nice cover art.

@AnitainTN: Since you have a SGTN4-7 and prefer tablets, I'm pretty sure you can skip Calibre, KindleUnpack, Kindle for PC/Mac, Kindle device, etc. altogether and just download the free Kindle for Android app from the Google Play store onto your SGTN4-7 and read Kindlebooks that way (unless BN has blocked the Kindle app from working on Nook tablets?)

If you want an EPUB so you can load it into a 3rd-party EPUB reading app, both Calibre and KindleUnpack work fine.

I prefer KindleUnpack because if the publisher used an EPUB to create an AZW3, then KindleUnpack will produce an EPUB that's very close to the publisher's original file. This pleases me. If you convert it through Calibre, you get some extra Calibre code that I don't particularly care for. But as eschwartz notes, if you don't care about the internal code, it doesn't really matter

eschwartz · 07-13-2015, 10:06 PM

Well, sure thing then. So long as you don't get into snits I won't mind your bug.

Difflugia · 07-13-2015, 10:15 PM

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Originally Posted by eschwartz

...but you reminded me of someone who does get into a snit about this.)

odamizu · 07-13-2015, 11:50 PM

@eschwartz: Ha! I think misunderstood, and now my secret is out

@Difflugia:

GreenMonkey · 07-15-2015, 02:01 PM

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Originally Posted by lkmiller

Just in case anyone needs it now that the pages are gone from the new B&N website....

Here is the direct download to Nook for PC:
http://images.barnesandnoble.com/PRe...tup_latest.exe

Nook for Mac:
http://images.barnesandnoble.com/PRe...forMac.dmg.zip

Thanks, I should take one last look and make sure I have everything in my calibre (B&N lost me to Amazon due to this obvious push to stop making ebook downloads outside their app easy).

Thankfully since I religiously strip the DRM and dump into Calibre, I can jump ship to Amazon without too much trouble. I really prefer epub (I have even spent a certain amount of time fixing errors and editing epubs) but I don't see there's much of a choice left in the U.S. Kobo got ruled out since they started pushing to their kepub, instead.

eschwartz · 07-15-2015, 05:07 PM

To their credit, Kobo did manage to fix their KEPUB-only issues. I wouldn't conclude they were trying to push KEPUB. It seems very likely they simply had big bugs in their publishing workflow when it came to EPUB3, and they weren't very quick in fixing them.

We had a lengthy thread about it... somewhere...

Personally I don't care. I like Amazon. But if you want EPUB, feel free to go Kobo.

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07-12-2015, 03:17 AM	#1112
odamizu just an egg Posts: 1,828 Karma: 7943430 Join Date: Mar 2015 Device: Kindle, iOS	Alf's FAQ has links for Nook Study for Mac and Windows: Mac: https://customer-care.s3.amazonaws.c...OK%20Study.dmg Windows: https://customer-care.s3.amazonaws.c...tudy_Setup.exe Alf's FAQ: https://apprenticealf.wordpress.com/...removal-tools/ (Is it okay to post a link to Alf? I think so, but not 100% sure. If not, my apologies, please delete.) IIRC, someone figured out these are the direct download links from BN's web site before BN removed them. But the links themselves still work. Ironic that BN uses Amazon's servers to host their stuff

07-12-2015, 03:35 AM	#1114
eschwartz Ex-Helpdesk Junkie Posts: 19,421 Karma: 85400180 Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: The Beaten Path, USA, Roundworld, This Side of Infinity Device: Kindle Touch fw5.3.7 (Wifi only)	Yes, are allowed to link to Alf's blog. The forum guidelines were revised last November to allow it. In fact, it was first mentioned in this very thread: https://www.mobileread.com/forums/sho...06#post2974206

07-12-2015, 08:31 PM	#1116
lkmiller Laura Posts: 1,531 Karma: 23597272 Join Date: Nov 2009 Device: Kobo Sage, Kobo Elipsa, Nook Glowlight 4 Plus, Kindle Oasis 2	Just in case anyone needs it now that the pages are gone from the new B&N website.... Here is the direct download to Nook for PC: http://images.barnesandnoble.com/PRe...tup_latest.exe Nook for Mac: http://images.barnesandnoble.com/PRe...forMac.dmg.zip

07-13-2015, 01:11 AM	#1117
pdurrant The Grand Mouse 高貴的老鼠 Posts: 73,986 Karma: 315160596 Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Norfolk, England Device: Kindle Oasis	An update to Alf's tools has just been posted with more support for B&N encryption key retrieval now that they've changed from the key being based on your name and CC#. (Although since I haven't bought anything from B&N for ages, it's of academic interest only to me.)

07-13-2015, 06:08 PM	#1119
eschwartz Ex-Helpdesk Junkie Posts: 19,421 Karma: 85400180 Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: The Beaten Path, USA, Roundworld, This Side of Infinity Device: Kindle Touch fw5.3.7 (Wifi only)	The primary difference between using KindleUnpack vs. calibre conversion is that calibre will flatten the CSS. Oh, and also for performing scientifically-minded analysis of the format. If you don't know what that means, it is a sign that you shouldn't care. I personally would not bother mentioning KindleUnpack to anyone who isn't exploring mobipocket internals, but some people have a bug about the "impurity" of converting. (odamizu, I am unaware of you holding those kinds of opinions but you reminded me of someone who does get into a snit about this.)

07-13-2015, 10:06 PM	#1121
eschwartz Ex-Helpdesk Junkie Posts: 19,421 Karma: 85400180 Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: The Beaten Path, USA, Roundworld, This Side of Infinity Device: Kindle Touch fw5.3.7 (Wifi only)	Well, sure thing then. So long as you don't get into snits I won't mind your bug.

07-13-2015, 11:50 PM	#1123
odamizu just an egg Posts: 1,828 Karma: 7943430 Join Date: Mar 2015 Device: Kindle, iOS	@eschwartz: Ha! I think misunderstood, and now my secret is out @Difflugia:

07-15-2015, 05:07 PM	#1125
eschwartz Ex-Helpdesk Junkie Posts: 19,421 Karma: 85400180 Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: The Beaten Path, USA, Roundworld, This Side of Infinity Device: Kindle Touch fw5.3.7 (Wifi only)	To their credit, Kobo did manage to fix their KEPUB-only issues. I wouldn't conclude they were trying to push KEPUB. It seems very likely they simply had big bugs in their publishing workflow when it came to EPUB3, and they weren't very quick in fixing them. We had a lengthy thread about it... somewhere... Personally I don't care. I like Amazon. But if you want EPUB, feel free to go Kobo.

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