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Old 10-12-2011, 04:04 AM   #106
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Just noticed many are $8.66 on Amazon for US residents.

For that price I would expect them to be proofread.
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Just noticed many are $8.66 on Amazon for US residents.
That seems a very high price. Even the £4.99 ones ought to be only $6.99 or so at Amazon (+ sales tax), doing a simple VAT/currency conversion. I don't expect any US state has a 38% sales tax!
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Old 10-12-2011, 04:39 AM   #108
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That seems a very high price. Even the £4.99 ones ought to be only $6.99 or so at Amazon (+ sales tax), doing a simple VAT/currency conversion. I don't expect any US state has a 38% sales tax!
Looking further I see others at $5.33. The US range is $5.33 - $8.66.

Just notice the Deathworld Series by Harrison are $0.99 at Amazon.
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Looking further I see others at $5.33. The US range is $5.33 - $8.66.

Just notice the Deathworld Series by Harrison are $0.99 at Amazon.
If I check US prices, I seem the Yellow Gollancz kindle books at $4.65 and $7.78. Which is odd. That's still a bit high compared to the UK prices, but a lot lower than you're seeing. And I see the Yellow editions of the Deathworld books at $7.77! at $8.66 and $5.33 (when I remember to switch location to US, not UK!). I think the Deathworld books you're seeing at $0.99 are not authorised editions. (The copyright wasn't renewed in a timely fashion, so they're out of copyright in the US, I think.)

All rather weird. It's as if the £:$ conversion rate they're using is $2:£1 or more, while it's currently less than $1.6:£1
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If I check US prices, I seem the Yellow Gollancz kindle books at $4.65 and $7.78. Which is odd. That's still a bit high compared to the UK prices, but a lot lower than you're seeing. And I see the Yellow editions of the Deathworld books at $7.77! at $8.66 and $5.33 (when I remember to switch location to US, not UK!). I think the Deathworld books you're seeing at $0.99 are not authorised editions. (The copyright wasn't renewed in a timely fashion, so they're out of copyright in the US, I think.)

All rather weird. It's as if the £:$ conversion rate they're using is $2:£1 or more, while it's currently less than $1.6:£1
$/£ £/$ conversions never seem to make sense, someone always seems to slip some extra profit in somewhere...
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Old 10-13-2011, 09:15 AM   #111
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Just noticed that I'd written the wrong title in my original post on the typos!

The book in question was "The Shadow of Heaven" by Bob Shaw, rather than "Vertigo". (I've updated my post.)

In the end I found 127 scanning errors in 166 pages; I'll pass these on to Gollancz.

Of those, 68 were errors in converting "Ile" - which wouldn't have been in the OCR dictionary. However, the other 59 were missing quotes and other errors that could turn up in a 'normal' book.

I'm going to read another Gateway title next to see if this was a one-off.

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Old 10-14-2011, 01:31 AM   #112
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Just noticed that I'd written the wrong title in my original post on the typos!

The book in question was "The Shadow of Heaven" by Bob Shaw, rather than "Vertigo". (I've updated my post.)

In the end I found 127 scanning errors in 166 pages; I'll pass these on to Gollancz.

Of those, 68 were errors in converting "Ile" - which wouldn't have been in the OCR dictionary. However, the other 59 were missing quotes and other errors that could turn up in a 'normal' book.

I'm going to read another Gateway title next to see if this was a one-off.

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I've read One Million Tomorrows by Bob Shaw - there were definitely some scannos there.
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Old 10-14-2011, 06:07 PM   #113
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While I usually find it to be exploitative when done by corporations, something like this would be a perfect good use for crowd sourcing.

Have a program where people could volunteer to proofreed a book. Give out vouchers for free books as payment.
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great idea - to good to become reality
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Some good news. I followed up with "Night Walk" by Bob Shaw (good stuff, I remember reading that long, long ago), and spotted just one typo: "irrelevanties" rather than "irrelevancies".

Oddly, that should have shown up in a spell check, but clearly the book had either been converted from a proof-read digital source, or properly checked after scanning.

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While I usually find it to be exploitative when done by corporations, something like this would be a perfect good use for crowd sourcing.

Have a program where people could volunteer to proofreed a book. Give out vouchers for free books as payment.
Problem is quality control... no way to know how good the volunteers are so then you'd need the volunteer proofed book to be proofread to see that it'd been done correctly...
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Well, it already exists: Distributed Proofreaders

Just for public domain books, though.
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