Register Guidelines E-Books Today's Posts Search

Go Back   MobileRead Forums > E-Book Readers > Amazon Kindle

Notices

Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Old 10-01-2013, 08:04 PM   #211
Corran006
Connoisseur
Corran006 is a jewel in the roughCorran006 is a jewel in the roughCorran006 is a jewel in the roughCorran006 is a jewel in the roughCorran006 is a jewel in the roughCorran006 is a jewel in the roughCorran006 is a jewel in the roughCorran006 is a jewel in the roughCorran006 is a jewel in the roughCorran006 is a jewel in the roughCorran006 is a jewel in the rough
 
Posts: 68
Karma: 7080
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: Toronto
Device: Kindle 3
To any current owner, can you tell me if you can 100% turn off your right with the PW2? I know for the first model you can only lower to 1% but not off. Has this changed?
Corran006 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-01-2013, 08:08 PM   #212
Blossom
Treasure Seeker
Blossom ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Blossom ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Blossom ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Blossom ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Blossom ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Blossom ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Blossom ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Blossom ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Blossom ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Blossom ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Blossom ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.
 
Blossom's Avatar
 
Posts: 18,708
Karma: 26026435
Join Date: Mar 2010
Device: Kobo HD Glo, Kindles, Kindle Fires, Andriod Devices
Quote:
Originally Posted by sparklemotion View Post
They definitely don't seem to have worked them out completely in this area, no. It seems dust particles are finding their way between the screens. It's very possible others also have them and maybe they don't notice them as they can be very tiny. I showed the PW to my friend and they could not spot anything, but to me it's obvious. I think waiting and trying one at Best Buy is a good idea.
I didn't notice my pin holes a couple weeks later after I changed the font. I think some you can just overlook. Some you can't.
Blossom is offline   Reply With Quote
Advert
Old 10-01-2013, 08:08 PM   #213
elemenoP
Wizard
elemenoP ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.elemenoP ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.elemenoP ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.elemenoP ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.elemenoP ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.elemenoP ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.elemenoP ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.elemenoP ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.elemenoP ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.elemenoP ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.elemenoP ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.
 
Posts: 1,717
Karma: 3790058
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: NYC
Device: Kindle Paperwhite, Sony 650
Quote:
Originally Posted by Lbooker View Post
It is with the light on. Warm white LEDs are better for your brain and your health. Blueish white LEDs may make it harder for your brain in the evening/at night to feel sleepy. They could mess with your biological clock. Some studies suggest that blueish LEDs are bad for your eyes too.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Light_e...rcadian_rhythm
http://www.livescience.com/31949-led...ye-damage.html
http://www.cclvi.org/contributions/effects1.htm
So you are saying that if I DON'T upgrade my PW, it will be detrimental to my health, right? I wasn't planning to upgrade, but if it's for my HEALTH...

Kidding but I do dislike the blue glow of my PW...

eP
elemenoP is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-01-2013, 08:11 PM   #214
sparklemotion
dangerous when cornered
sparklemotion ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.sparklemotion ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.sparklemotion ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.sparklemotion ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.sparklemotion ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.sparklemotion ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.sparklemotion ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.sparklemotion ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.sparklemotion ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.sparklemotion ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.sparklemotion ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.
 
sparklemotion's Avatar
 
Posts: 1,855
Karma: 22891237
Join Date: Dec 2011
Location: USA
Device: Kobo H2O, Kindle Paperwhite
Quote:
Originally Posted by Blossom View Post
Good One! I just ordered a HDX so I'm out of funds at the moment. I am hoping the pics will help me decide if I need the new PW2. So far I am not impressed with pics and Engadget said the same thing about the screen.
Blossom, since you are very happy with the screen on your current PW, I don't really think it's a worthwhile upgrade for you. Mine still had some color hue issues so it's a huge difference for me. For you, I'm thinking the main difference would be the software additions. It is faster and the screen is also a shade whiter, but I don't think that is probably enough to warrant the upgrade in your case. Well, unless you just want a second PW kicking around. hehe.
sparklemotion is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-01-2013, 08:14 PM   #215
sparklemotion
dangerous when cornered
sparklemotion ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.sparklemotion ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.sparklemotion ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.sparklemotion ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.sparklemotion ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.sparklemotion ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.sparklemotion ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.sparklemotion ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.sparklemotion ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.sparklemotion ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.sparklemotion ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.
 
sparklemotion's Avatar
 
Posts: 1,855
Karma: 22891237
Join Date: Dec 2011
Location: USA
Device: Kobo H2O, Kindle Paperwhite
Quote:
Originally Posted by Corran006 View Post
To any current owner, can you tell me if you can 100% turn off your right with the PW2? I know for the first model you can only lower to 1% but not off. Has this changed?
You cannot turn it off 100%, no. It is much more dim at the lowest setting than the PW1, but it is still on, nonetheless.
sparklemotion is offline   Reply With Quote
Advert
Old 10-01-2013, 08:19 PM   #216
Blossom
Treasure Seeker
Blossom ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Blossom ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Blossom ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Blossom ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Blossom ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Blossom ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Blossom ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Blossom ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Blossom ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Blossom ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Blossom ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.
 
Blossom's Avatar
 
Posts: 18,708
Karma: 26026435
Join Date: Mar 2010
Device: Kobo HD Glo, Kindles, Kindle Fires, Andriod Devices
Quote:
Originally Posted by sparklemotion View Post
Blossom, since you are very happy with the screen on your current PW, I don't really think it's a worthwhile upgrade for you. Mine still had some color hue issues so it's a huge difference for me. For you, I'm thinking the main difference would be the software additions. It is faster and the screen is also a shade whiter, but I don't think that is probably enough to warrant the upgrade in your case. Well, unless you just want a second PW kicking around. hehe.
I do want a second one but the no custom fonts is really the deciding factor because I don't see blacker text on those pics than I was expecting.
Blossom is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-01-2013, 08:34 PM   #217
sirmaru
Wizard
sirmaru ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.sirmaru ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.sirmaru ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.sirmaru ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.sirmaru ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.sirmaru ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.sirmaru ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.sirmaru ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.sirmaru ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.sirmaru ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.sirmaru ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.
 
sirmaru's Avatar
 
Posts: 2,426
Karma: 6561538
Join Date: Nov 2007
Device: Kindle PW 2013, HDX 2013, Galaxy S5 2014
Dark rooms are for the Fires

Quote:
Originally Posted by Blossom View Post
OMG My eyeballs would burn off if I did that. I keep my PW1 on 8 at all times but my PW is brighter than most. I think the setting in normal conditions on most is 10 not 22.

You really do need to get your eyes checked. Your probably hurting your retina by looking at a screen that bright in the dark.
I only use my Fire HD in dark ambient light. I use the PW's in bright light. I'm hoping the HDX will work equally well in bright and dark light without glare.

I'm ancient in age and am still seeing fine without any glasses both for near and far vision. I have a large cataract in one eye now for 9 years and I can see just fine through it. There is no question these Kindles have extended my vision and avoided glasses and a cataract operation. I am the eldest and practically the only patient at my Ophthalmologist's office getting by without glasses or surgeries.

For me Kindles have replaced eye glasses totally.

This new PW 2013 is the best yet. Fonts are better on it than any other eReader I've seen so far and make print books totally obsolete.
sirmaru is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-01-2013, 08:47 PM   #218
Blossom
Treasure Seeker
Blossom ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Blossom ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Blossom ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Blossom ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Blossom ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Blossom ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Blossom ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Blossom ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Blossom ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Blossom ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Blossom ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.
 
Blossom's Avatar
 
Posts: 18,708
Karma: 26026435
Join Date: Mar 2010
Device: Kobo HD Glo, Kindles, Kindle Fires, Andriod Devices
Quote:
Originally Posted by sirmaru View Post
I only use my Fire HD in dark ambient light. I use the PW's in bright light. I'm hoping the HDX will work equally well in bright and dark light without glare.

I'm ancient in age and am still seeing fine without any glasses both for near and far vision. I have a large cataract in one eye now for 9 years and I can see just fine through it. There is no question these Kindles have extended my vision and avoided glasses and a cataract operation. I am the eldest and practically the only patient at my Ophthalmologist's office getting by without glasses or surgeries.

For me Kindles have replaced eye glasses totally.

This new PW 2013 is the best yet. Fonts are better on it than any other eReader I've seen so far and make print books totally obsolete.
Oh good I thought you used the PW in the dark like that! *phew*

My mom was just diagnosed blind in her right eye with a cataract and is going to have surgery. I know if it ever happens to me I would have the surgery without a doubt. Don't hold off too long not to get it fix. You don't want to wind up where she is now. she's 73

I wear glasses at all times as you can tell from my sim Avatar. I'm near sighted with a left astigmatism and many floaters. I need to get a new prescription it's been two years. My eyes have not change much over 9 years according to the eye doctor. They sure feel like they have to me. I squint at everything without them now. I have more than my eye sight against me I am dyslexic. So the Kindles really help me be able to read more. I found a font and modified it so it works perfect for me. I put it on all my Kindles.

So until I can either see the contrast on the PW2 or it allows custom fonts like the PW1 does I am holding off on buying one.
Blossom is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-01-2013, 08:59 PM   #219
sirmaru
Wizard
sirmaru ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.sirmaru ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.sirmaru ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.sirmaru ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.sirmaru ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.sirmaru ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.sirmaru ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.sirmaru ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.sirmaru ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.sirmaru ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.sirmaru ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.
 
sirmaru's Avatar
 
Posts: 2,426
Karma: 6561538
Join Date: Nov 2007
Device: Kindle PW 2013, HDX 2013, Galaxy S5 2014
Way, way older than your mom.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Blossom View Post
Oh good I thought you used the PW in the dark like that! *phew*

My mom was just diagnosed blind in her right eye with a cataract and is going to have surgery. I know if it ever happens to me I would have the surgery without a doubt. Don't hold off too long not to get it fix. You don't want to wind up where she is now. she's 73

I wear glasses at all times as you can tell from my sim Avatar. I'm near sighted with a left astigmatism and many floaters. I need to get a new prescription it's been two years. My eyes have not change much over 9 years according to the eye doctor. They sure feel like they have to me. I squint at everything without them now. I have more than my eye sight against me I am dyslexic. So the Kindles really help me be able to read more. I found a font and modified it so it works perfect for me. I put it on all my Kindles.

So until I can either see the contrast on the PW2 or it allows custom fonts like the PW1 does I am holding off on buying one.
I'm way, way older than your mom and have macular degeneration as well. Cataract surgery can worsen the macular and will definitely not cure it. In addition, life expectancy kicks in and, the longer we wait, the less likely we will need any surgery. Plus, I am the ONLY patient in my eye doctor's practice not requiring any glasses for near or far vision other than kids under 30 years of age.

My doctor told me both the cataract and macular had stopped getting worse since I've been using Kindles. There is no question in my mind that Kindles have been a miracle for the elderly with bad vision.

By the way I just dropped in on the PW 2013 page at Amazon and see they now have 33 reviews of which 25 are five stars and ZERO are one stars. There is only one 2 star review.

That is the best beginning review record I've seen for any products on Amazon.

Last edited by sirmaru; 10-01-2013 at 09:03 PM.
sirmaru is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-01-2013, 09:07 PM   #220
kevinpars
Connoisseur
kevinpars ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.kevinpars ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.kevinpars ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.kevinpars ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.kevinpars ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.kevinpars ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.kevinpars ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.kevinpars ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.kevinpars ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.kevinpars ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.kevinpars ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.
 
Posts: 53
Karma: 509166
Join Date: Feb 2008
Device: Kindle
My initial impressions are that, like others have pointed out, the lighting is much softer and has a yellow rather than a blue tint. I think i will find it easier to read using the PW2 but time will tell.

One thing I did notice is that after loading about 120 books it took very little time to index everything. I did the search on a nonsense term 'sdlfasdfhjas' and discovered that after less than an hour all my books were indexed. So the new processor does more than turn pages faster.

Speaking of pages - I think I can go an average of 12-13 pages without a black flash (font size 5 and middle line spacing and smallest margins).

I see very little difference in the touch sensitivity. I tried playing a game (Shuffled Row) and did think it was easier to select letters when playing the game.

The new software feature that allows you to scroll through a book without losing your place is going to be handy for people like me that sometimes like to scroll back and reread a section and come back.

Incremental improvements is what I am seeing.
kevinpars is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-01-2013, 09:22 PM   #221
sirmaru
Wizard
sirmaru ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.sirmaru ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.sirmaru ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.sirmaru ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.sirmaru ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.sirmaru ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.sirmaru ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.sirmaru ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.sirmaru ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.sirmaru ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.sirmaru ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.
 
sirmaru's Avatar
 
Posts: 2,426
Karma: 6561538
Join Date: Nov 2007
Device: Kindle PW 2013, HDX 2013, Galaxy S5 2014
One great feature is that ALL bookmarks show in the upper right corner on the PW 2013. If one holds a particular bookmark, a bubble pops up with that entire page. One can delete the bookmarks there as well.

The battery life of the PW 2013 is also supposed to be much better than the PW 2012. It will take me a couple of months to track reading sessions on a spreadsheet to calculate this. The PW 2012 showed 10 hours of single session battery life in two cycles of reading session measurements.
sirmaru is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-01-2013, 09:34 PM   #222
allowingtoo
Bibliophile
allowingtoo began at the beginning.
 
Posts: 154
Karma: 10
Join Date: Sep 2010
Device: Amazon
Quote:
Originally Posted by sparklemotion View Post
You're not crazy. I find the brightness of the lights almost always differ between PW's. I have 3 PW's in my possession atm. One PW1 and two of the new PW2's and the light brightness is different on all 3.
I already sent my PW1 back so I don't have it to compare to. But I keep wanting to turn up the light on my PW2 and it's already up. I didn't notice it until it started getting dark here. And then it was like the PW1 at 22 or something - or maybe it's the yellow tint on the screen. It's driving me crazy. What I loved about the PW screen is gone on this one. I love the features - I love the evenness of the light better - but the color? Not so much.
allowingtoo is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-01-2013, 09:38 PM   #223
Blossom
Treasure Seeker
Blossom ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Blossom ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Blossom ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Blossom ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Blossom ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Blossom ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Blossom ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Blossom ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Blossom ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Blossom ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Blossom ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.
 
Blossom's Avatar
 
Posts: 18,708
Karma: 26026435
Join Date: Mar 2010
Device: Kobo HD Glo, Kindles, Kindle Fires, Andriod Devices
Quote:
Originally Posted by allowingtoo View Post
I already sent my PW1 back so I don't have it to compare to. But I keep wanting to turn up the light on my PW2 and it's already up. I didn't notice it until it started getting dark here. And then it was like the PW1 at 22 or something - or maybe it's the yellow tint on the screen. It's driving me crazy. What I loved about the PW screen is gone on this one. I love the features - I love the evenness of the light better - but the color? Not so much.
It will take some time to get use to a warm screen if your PW1 was cool.
My PW1 is warm unlike most. I have the yellow tint. I would love a cool screen I think.
Blossom is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-01-2013, 09:44 PM   #224
Blossom
Treasure Seeker
Blossom ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Blossom ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Blossom ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Blossom ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Blossom ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Blossom ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Blossom ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Blossom ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Blossom ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Blossom ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.Blossom ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.
 
Blossom's Avatar
 
Posts: 18,708
Karma: 26026435
Join Date: Mar 2010
Device: Kobo HD Glo, Kindles, Kindle Fires, Andriod Devices
Karen (Koland) has some comparison pics on her Blog. I notice no different other that tint between the two.
Blossom is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-01-2013, 09:54 PM   #225
FanciFreez
Banned
FanciFreez ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.FanciFreez ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.FanciFreez ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.FanciFreez ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.FanciFreez ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.FanciFreez ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.FanciFreez ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.FanciFreez ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.FanciFreez ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.FanciFreez ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.FanciFreez ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.
 
FanciFreez's Avatar
 
Posts: 100
Karma: 577064
Join Date: Sep 2013
Device: Kobo Aura HD, KPW2, Nexus 7.2, iPad 4, Nook HD+
Quote:
Originally Posted by aceflor View Post
+1
My point, and my experience too, exactly.
Yep.. I bring it home, plug it in and run it continuously and put it through it's paces for 10 days or so.. if it doesn't break within that time frame.. chances are 95% it won't it the next yr or so.. if it fails before the return policy I would just return it.. which I can't ever remember that happening .. but it could.. LOL.. hope I didn't jinx myself.. plus not to mention.. those extended warranties are so full of holes.. well we don't cover this or that..

Last edited by FanciFreez; 10-01-2013 at 09:57 PM.
FanciFreez is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply


Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Paperwhite 2nd Gen Akirainblack Kindle Developer's Corner 187 11-15-2013 10:37 AM
Next-gen Kindle Paperwhite previewed by Time mag Alexander Turcic News 16 09-05-2013 02:58 PM
Content PaperWhite & Fire 2nd Gen MOBIs don't need an inline TOC alansplace Amazon Kindle 4 01-14-2013 07:04 PM
Kindle Paperwhite, first impressions Dahak Amazon Kindle 4 11-18-2012 05:26 PM
Kindle Paperwhite: Real Customers Share their First Impressions copyrite Amazon Kindle 11 09-12-2012 05:11 PM


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 03:18 AM.


MobileRead.com is a privately owned, operated and funded community.