Sony Digital Paper DPT-S1 Owner's Thread

[digiflash]

Are there any news about a upcoming new device like the DPT-S1?
I would like to buy one but if there is a new one or the price may change in near future....

[markom]

Originally Posted by digiflash

Are there any news about a upcoming new device like the DPT-S1?
I would like to buy one but if there is a new one or the price may change in near future....

Maybe this year, maybe the next or maybe ...

https://www.mobileread.com/forums/sho...6&postcount=46

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QPHslmRrMEw

[space_voyager]

ManDay what makes you think the DPT is approaching EOL? I don't see anything wrong with it...

[digiflash]

As I wrote an email and got a feedback. October 2015 is ETA. But CAD Reader doesn't seem to be what I was looking for. It has a Stylus and so on but the DPT-S1 is much more a reader and able to take notes. CAD Reader is really designed for CAD applications and not for taking notes. So I will buy the Sony device.

[machinogodzilla]

Originally Posted by rem736

i don't know about the M96. but i've used a M92, and the DSP-T1 is by far the clear winner, both in displaying pdf and in note taking. when you draw/write, the result doesn't look quite as good for half a second. but once you lift the pen off the surface to begin the next stroke, the previous figure drawn transforms and looks very good. it would be great if the effect was instantaneous, but this is still better than the M92. though i haven't seen the M96 in action, i assume that it's similar to the M92 in that respect.

Here is a screenshot of sample note from my Onyx M96. I'm quite satisfied with the note taking there, the strokes appear good without any delay. How is DSP-T1 better that you call it a "clear winner"?

[ManDay]

Originally Posted by space_voyager

ManDay what makes you think the DPT is approaching EOL? I don't see anything wrong with it...

There is nothing wrong with it. It's a brilliant device. But its time has come, It is older than a year now, has a stable OS and, besides being a niche product, will likely not receive any further investments from the manufacturer. If SONY deems the category sustainable (which I doubt they do), they will likely shift development to a new device now. The device's hardware is 1.5 to 2 years old now. Pushing it further wouldn't make much sense. At least not to me, if I were SONY.

[rem736]

Originally Posted by machinogodzilla

Here is a screenshot of sample note from my Onyx M96. I'm quite satisfied with the note taking there, the strokes appear good without any delay. How is DSP-T1 better that you call it a "clear winner

hi,

i did mention that have never used the M96. i only assumed it may be similar to the M92, which i have used. my opinion is based on my experience with the M92. and responsiveness aside. the M96 is still the same screen size as the M92. so a full 8.5x11 page will still have to be shrunken down to fit the 9.7" screen. on the sony, you see the full page without reduction. this is how i arrived at my opinion.

[digiflash]

Does the DPT-S1 support WEBDAV?

[space_voyager]

Originally Posted by ManDay

There is nothing wrong with it. It's a brilliant device. But its time has come, It is older than a year now, has a stable OS and, besides being a niche product, will likely not receive any further investments from the manufacturer. If SONY deems the category sustainable (which I doubt they do), they will likely shift development to a new device now. The device's hardware is 1.5 to 2 years old now. Pushing it further wouldn't make much sense. At least not to me, if I were SONY.

I see what you mean. I'm all for a DPT-S2, even though I just bought this one - it would mean that the market for such devices is healthy (actually, very healthy given the high price of the DPT-S1). However I don't think making a new hardware prevents there being new software. Just like you can upgrade an old iPad with a new iOS, we should be able to as customers upgrade to the latest firmware of the new device - should there be a new device.

I do not think that my feature requests are difficult to implement. Adding colors is a nonissue - that's 2-3 more lines of code given that they likely have the color choice hard-coded somewhere with an RGB setting. The split-screen is more difficult but can be copied/inspired from open source PDF readers for PC that do it and, if it makes for a more powerful feature set that attracts more customers (I'm sure it would), this couple-of-day endeavour should be justified. In fact, employing a programmer to make this feature in two weeks, getting paid $80'000/year, will pay itself after 5 readers are sold - and I am sure many more readers than that would be sold because of such a feature. Split-screen is the second-best to the power of paper in being able to look quickly in several places of the book at once. Finally, the same goes for a modifiable table of contents - perhaps amortizing the time spent on these two features will be 10 readers sold, worst case estimate.

Originally Posted by digiflash

As I wrote an email and got a feedback. October 2015 is ETA. But CAD Reader doesn't seem to be what I was looking for. It has a Stylus and so on but the DPT-S1 is much more a reader and able to take notes. CAD Reader is really designed for CAD applications and not for taking notes. So I will buy the Sony device.

digiflash, I've been writing to Pocketbook literally for more than a year before deciding to buy the Sony. In fact, I wrote to them in 2014 back when the CAD Reader was supposed to come out in Summer 2014. Then in Summer 2014 it got delayed to Winter 2014. Then they said it'll come out Spring 2015. Now they're telling you it'll be October 2015. What I say - it'll likely not come out this year, and perhaps never, given the trend that I'm seeing here. It's been delayed for a full year now!

[ManDay]

Originally Posted by space_voyager

I see what you mean. I'm all for a DPT-S2, even though I just bought this one - it would mean that the market for such devices is healthy (actually, very healthy given the high price of the DPT-S1). However I don't think making a new hardware prevents there being new software. Just like you can upgrade an old iPad with a new iOS, we should be able to as customers upgrade to the latest firmware of the new device - should there be a new device.

I do not think that my feature requests are difficult to implement. Adding colors is a nonissue - that's 2-3 more lines of code given that they likely have the color choice hard-coded somewhere with an RGB setting. The split-screen is more difficult but can be copied/inspired from open source PDF readers for PC that do it and, if it makes for a more powerful feature set that attracts more customers (I'm sure it would), this couple-of-day endeavour should be justified. In fact, employing a programmer to make this feature in two weeks, getting paid $80'000/year, will pay itself after 5 readers are sold - and I am sure many more readers than that would be sold because of such a feature. Split-screen is the second-best to the power of paper in being able to look quickly in several places of the book at once. Finally, the same goes for a modifiable table of contents - perhaps amortizing the time spent on these two features will be 10 readers sold, worst case estimate.

The question is why SONY would/should be interested in doing that. From their perspective, they have a bunch developers they can dispatch for whatever. They sure have enough projects. Now would you rather have them work on the old DPT-S1 for "customer happiness" in return or have them work on new, promising projects?

[Yoni]

Originally Posted by markom

I remember some users here and some on the net (after opening the case) reporting 1 GB of RAM after checking out the serial numbers of the chips therein.

thanks

[space_voyager]

ManDay, if I were Sony I would do it. for the simple reason that as of yet the DPT-S1 lacks certain features (the ones I mentioned) to make it a full paper-replacement solution. Did they not make the DPT-S1 with that goal in the first place? Then it would make no sense to not implement those features given that they are so close to their goal. Again, these aren't features requiring even half a month's work. If Sony does not implement these features, I hope the community cracks the software and adds features.

[ManDay]

Originally Posted by space_voyager

ManDay, if I were Sony I would do it. for the simple reason that as of yet the DPT-S1 lacks certain features (the ones I mentioned) to make it a full paper-replacement solution. Did they not make the DPT-S1 with that goal in the first place? Then it would make no sense to not implement those features given that they are so close to their goal. Again, these aren't features requiring even half a month's work. If Sony does not implement these features, I hope the community cracks the software and adds features.

I, too, hope they'll do it. I'm just not getting my hopes up. I think the split screen is a bit more than what they had in mind for the device. Also, I think it might come with quite a few complications implementing it.

[Morffius]

Hey guys! It's been a long time since I had an ereader... I've had a few of the early sonys and even the big irex reader. My use case was ideally to have a large format reader to read textbooks (health science books). The irex was pro
Using with its pen input and large screen, but just wasn't good enough. Bad battery life and a slow screen made pdf editing too cumbersome and "flipping" through a large textbook impossible. I've recently started to look at them again and came across the Sony. It seems to be pretty reasonable for what I want. Currently my solution is a Surface Pro 3 which has been pretty great with the split screen for notes and a book. It's lacking in screen size and battery life and especially outdoor readability. Here's my question:

Would any of y'all be willing to open one of my pdf text books on your dpt-s1 and tell me how it looks and how fast the page turns are? I would really appreciate it before I drop the cash on one!

[digiflash]

Is a case included or do I have to buy one?