Books without swear words - there's an app for that

[tompe]

Originally Posted by WT Sharpe

I see nothing wrong with the app. I wouldn't use it, but since it was only for the benefit of the end user I see nothing wrong. What's so bad about someone filtering out words they prefer not to hear? As for me, I'll take my books full strength and unadulterated, but if other more sensitive types feel the need to censor their own content, well personally, my dear, I don't give a hoot.

Because it infringes on the authors moral rights which is part of copyright in Europe.

I assume the replaced words are not marked and what happens is that a new work is presented as the authors work and even if readers know the app working when reading they will base there opinion about the author on the transformed work.

I find it depressing that some persons in this thread that are strong defenders of authors commercial copyright do not seem to care about the more important moral part of copyright.

[ApK]

Originally Posted by tompe

Because it infringes on the authors moral rights which is part of copyright in Europe.

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I find it depressing that some persons in this thread that are strong defenders of authors commercial copyright do not seem to care about the more important moral part of copyright.

Maybe it needs some further explanation, because at the moment, in this context, it sounds like utter nonsense, neither important nor 'right' in any sense. Nor moral.

If you might possibly consider starting a thread in the appropriate section (general? lounge? Writer's corner? Not sure.) about these so-called-moral so-called-rights, I'd be interested in hearing more about it.

[eschwartz]

Originally Posted by meeera

Why do characters need a "compelling reason" to turn out to be gay? Do characters need a "compelling reason" to be written as straight? (Or Aboriginal, or disabled, or any other minority?) Is there any reason why characters shouldn't more or less reflect the makeup of the population? (In which case, I agree, most books should probably have more than one gay character!)

A compelling reason why x character suddenly goes out of his way to underline the fact.
A scene which served absolutely no purpose except to let everyone know how politically-correct the author is.
A long, drawn-out scene where a minor character suddenly dramatizes his crush on the main character, for no good reason.

When I say "compelling reason", I mean in the same way I assume every author has carefully-chosen reasons for any scene in a book. If a character was always gay, I wouldn't blink twice in regard to the logical flow of the story. All I am talking about here is the logical flow of the story.
(Personal opinions about the rightness or wrongness of homosexuality belong in the P&R forum, really... I would prefer to avoid having this thread closed/moved/chopped in half because the moderating team saw a lot of Political and Religious discussion blatantly going on, so I would appreciate it if everyone on all sides could please keep to the difference... and stop misinterpreting my words.)

[JSWolf]

Originally Posted by rcentros

Even if they wanted to do so (they don't), I wouldn't let my children read books intended to glorify homosexuality. So, for believing and teaching my Christian Faith, I am now labeled a "bad parent." Your bigoted opinion is noted ... and rejected.

I find it shameful when someone feels the needs to discriminate against others for no good reason. Nobody chooses to be gay or straight. It just happens. I have to feel for people who cannot be open and let tolerance in their lives for religious reasons.

I know this is your choice what to believe, but please let your children make their own decisions. Don't teach them that it's wrong to be different. It's not wrong. Teach tolerance and love your fellow man. Don't teach your kids that it's wrong to be gay or they will grow up to be hateful people.

[doubleshuffle]

Originally Posted by tompe

I assume the replaced words are not marked and what happens is that a new work is presented as the authors work [...]

Your assumption is wrong. There are screenshots of the app available at the links given early in this thread.

[JSWolf]

Originally Posted by RobertDDL

The Bible, for instance?

Now that is a book that is very inappropriate for young kids.

[eschwartz]

Originally Posted by tompe

Because it infringes on the authors moral rights which is part of copyright in Europe.

I assume the replaced words are not marked and what happens is that a new work is presented as the authors work and even if readers know the app working when reading they will base there opinion about the author on the transformed work.

I find it depressing that some persons in this thread that are strong defenders of authors commercial copyright do not seem to care about the more important moral part of copyright.

Any right an author has to moral rights is AFAIAC dealt with now that they are required to buy the book elsewhere and sideload it just like Mantano and Moon Reader.

I am aware that many moronic Europeans consider it illegal and immoral to "transform an author's work" by taking a sharpie to a pbook -- while I don't think you are going that far, I consider it the same form of absolute nonsense.
Clean Reader was engaging in libel. Now they aren't. A consumer can do whatever he wants with his own property, and authors can suck it up or die.
All the authors I respect anyway don't care about it any more than I do.

[HarryT]

Originally Posted by eschwartz

I am aware that many moronic Europeans consider it illegal and immoral to "transform an author's work" by taking a sharpie to a pbook

First I've heard of that. Can you give an example? When you say a "sharpie" do you mean cutting things out of a book with a sharp knife?

[shalym]

Originally Posted by HarryT

First I've heard of that. Can you give an example? When you say a "sharpie" do you mean cutting things out of a book with a sharp knife?

A sharpie is a type of permanent marker, and it's sometimes used to redact things from documents.

http://www.amazon.com/Sharpie-Point-...ywords=sharpie

Shari

[HarryT]

Originally Posted by shalym

A sharpie is a type of permanent marker, and it's sometimes used to redact things from documents.

http://www.amazon.com/Sharpie-Point-...ywords=sharpie

Shari

Thanks. I hadn't come across that word before. Not all brand names transcend national boundaries .

[ApK]

Originally Posted by HarryT

Thanks. I hadn't come across that word before. Not all brand names transcend national boundaries .

Are they really not as popular over there, or are you just not up on marker trends?

I know they at least have a presence over there:
http://www.sharpie.co.uk/

Here, they are getting to be in the same league as Kleenex, Scotch tape and Xerox copies, close having their brand become the de facto generic name for that type of marker.

[Bilbo1967]

I've certainly heard of Sharpies, but really only in US TV shows. Harry is almost certainly in the majority here in not having heard of them.

[theducks]

Every day, I sit in my home office (a front room) and hear the grade and High school students talking swearing and generally using gutter language as they walk down the street ( And I was Enlisted Navy )
This is not a Ghetto neighborhood. Parents drive BMW and Lexus. Make 6 figure salaries

So the parents use this apps form of thought policing while at home... What about all the other hours of the day?

Your bad words are not my bad words. (I won't bring those up as they mostly belong in Politics )

[Barbara1955]

That's like child guard blocks Breasts so you cant look up Breast Cancer! WTHeck! Well IF I was a parent of a young child I put it on the kids Tablet... But not mine.

[DiapDealer]

Took me a while to figure out what people were talking about when they said, "biro."