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Old 11-06-2016, 04:00 AM   #211
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In the end, I think I go with this, as I love the image.
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Slightly disappointed?

I'm actually angry. They got the ONE THING I specifically asked for wrong.

I should have known when support directed me to the cover with the clasp when I asked if the case would stay shut on its own.

Therefore I asked a second time, specifically stating "Will the case without a clasp also stay shut?" and they said yes. It's no. It doesn't. Support is incompetent and made me buy a product I wouldn't otherwise have bought.

This was a critical point for me, or I wouldn't have asked.

With regard to the sleep/wake-function: it's a well-known problem, and even most China-made €10 covers get that right nowadays. I expect a €60 cover to get it right as well.
Actually I am a bit at a loss. I think I don't understand the question you asked as you would like me to understand it and I have a suspicion neither did the support at Noreve.

My ONE is in a modified iPadMini case, so the magnet doesn't work at all. Now when I put it in my bag (I've used a messenger bag for the last two or three weeks almost exclusively and before that a roomy handbag with a handle, not over the shoulder style) it still doesn't flap open. That being said, even though the bags are roomy they don't offer enough room for the ONE to fall to a 45° or bigger angle.

Which makes me think your reader seems to have far too much space to flap open in your bag than is normal.

So for normal in-bag-use I'd say, even a cover without a magnet or a with a week magnet would stay closed unless the reader has too much wriggle room and the bag is shaken badly.

What it comes down to is: I'd have answered your question with a confident yes, too, assuming it is in a bag with comparments that aren't wider than maybe 2 (?) inches.

Why is it, your reader flaps open? Or what do you do to it, for it do act like this?

Also, you were pointed in a direction that seems to have been better for your style of use and still chose to buy another style just because you like it better, trading looks for function. It is hardly fair to take your obviously unfortunate decision out on others.

Like I said, I am sorry you don't like it, but I really don't understand why you don't like it exactly.
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In the end, I think I go with this, as I love the image.
Another product shot with a photoshopped-in ereader displaying text from Stephen King's "Bill Hodge"... I hope MoKo put more effort into their cover than their marketing!
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Another product shot with a photoshopped-in ereader displaying text from Stephen King's "Bill Hodge"... I hope MoKo put more effort into their cover than their marketing!
What a good sight!
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Actually I am a bit at a loss. I think I don't understand the question you asked as you would like me to understand it and I have a suspicion neither did the support at Noreve.
I think their answer shows they did understand Katsunami's question:

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Thank you for your message. YES, even without clasp the cover will stay closed due to the magnetic fastener.
In other words - the magnet is strong enough to keep the flap shut and reader sleeping. Some marketing shots for other covers demonstrate this by being shown held upside-down. That seems like a good test to me.

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Also, you were pointed in a direction that seems to have been better for your style of use and still chose to buy another style just because you like it better, trading looks for function. It is hardly fair to take your obviously unfortunate decision out on others.
For £50+ I'd want some form and function
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Old 11-06-2016, 04:45 AM   #216
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What a good sight!
It is funny how almost everyone uses the same text!
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Old 11-06-2016, 08:01 AM   #217
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I think their answer shows they did understand Katsunami's question:



In other words - the magnet is strong enough to keep the flap shut and reader sleeping. Some marketing shots for other covers demonstrate this by being shown held upside-down. That seems like a good test to me.



For £50+ I'd want some form and function
And yet he says it won't stay closed while at the same time complaining the magnet it so strong, it triggers the wake/sleep function when folded over.

So which is it?

ETA And regarding your remark about form and function for the price: Sweetpea has the same cover, manufactured at the same time, so there is no "different batch" thing going on and seems to find the ability of the cover to stay shut sufficient.

If someone has special needs to feel secure and is pointed to a solution, yet selects the product that wasn't recommended as meeting their needs, how is this the sellers fault?

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ETA And regarding your remark about form and function for the price: Sweetpea has the same cover, manufactured at the same time, so there is no "different batch" thing going on and seems to find the ability of the cover to stay shut sufficient.
Except these covers are hand made so there is likely to be some variation between two made at the same time. Although the parts used - particularly the magnet - ought to be consistent.

I think more information is required.
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In the end, I think I go with this, as I love the image.
This is perfect, assuming it doesn't turn the reader off when folded back. It actually has a magnet built into the housing, as it should be, to keep it shut. Also, the slim-fit case extends past the corners on the bottom, instead of cutting off there. Looks good, if it is actually that exact cover. (I've experienced otherwise... receiving a cover that was similar, but not quite the same as the shown one.)

It only costs $4.99 in a sale. If I can get it in black (but I don't really dislike the image in this one either, for a change), even shipping it to the Netherlands for $15 or so would make it worthwhile.

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Actually I am a bit at a loss. I think I don't understand the question you asked as you would like me to understand it and I have a suspicion neither did the support at Noreve.

My ONE is in a modified iPadMini case, so the magnet doesn't work at all. Now when I put it in my bag (I've used a messenger bag for the last two or three weeks almost exclusively and before that a roomy handbag with a handle, not over the shoulder style) it still doesn't flap open. That being said, even though the bags are roomy they don't offer enough room for the ONE to fall to a 45° or bigger angle.

Which makes me think your reader seems to have far too much space to flap open in your bag than is normal.

So for normal in-bag-use I'd say, even a cover without a magnet or a with a week magnet would stay closed unless the reader has too much wriggle room and the bag is shaken badly.

What it comes down to is: I'd have answered your question with a confident yes, too, assuming it is in a bag with comparments that aren't wider than maybe 2 (?) inches.

Why is it, your reader flaps open? Or what do you do to it, for it do act like this?

Also, you were pointed in a direction that seems to have been better for your style of use and still chose to buy another style just because you like it better, trading looks for function. It is hardly fair to take your obviously unfortunate decision out on others.

Like I said, I am sorry you don't like it, but I really don't understand why you don't like it exactly.
You're overthinking this. It's very simple.

They have a cover with a clasp to keep it shut. That's obvious enough. Then I asked: "Will the version without the clasp stay shut on its own?" The answer was: "YES, it stays shut because of a magnetic fastener."

Now I get the cover, and it doesn't have any 'magnetic fasteners' of any kind. It opens, just like a book would, if you turn it upside down.

The reason why I want it to stay shut on its own is because in my work bag, I normally only carry some papers and a 3 inch thick lunch box. The reader is beside the lunch box, or in the front compartment, and in both, it has the space to open on its own.

I know I could change the bag and put the reader somewhere where it doesn't open, but that it's not the point. I want a claspless cover, without anything sticking out or any metal parts, as I've had on my KPW1 for four years. Noreve support answered 'yes' to the question of the cover being able to keep itself shut, and they were wrong. That alone is enough to return the cover, apart from the fact that it turns off the reader when folded back, or the reader pops out as soon as you put a bit of pressure on the lower left corner.

Anything to remedy these problems falls in the category of 'you'll have to hold the iPhone differently compared to normal phones. Then it will have good reach.' (Search 'Antennagate' for more information.)
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And yet he says it won't stay closed while at the same time complaining the magnet it so strong, it triggers the wake/sleep function when folded over.

So which is it?
Those should be two (or more) different magnets.

My KWP1 cover has three magnets: one in the top right and bottom right corners (to keep the lid shut), and one somewhere else in the lid to keep the reader sleeping.

You *CAN'T* use the wake/sleep magnet to try and keep the cover shut, because there is nothing for the magnet to stick to. THAT is the magnet that is too strong, and the reader detects it from the back, when the cover is folded backward.
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This is the black version of Terisa de Morgan's case, on Amazon.de

I've ordered it. It only costs €8, and €3,50 for shipping. It should be here on Tuesday. It's even a bit cheaper than my KPW1 case, which cost something like €15 including shipping.

It provides everything I want in a slim fit cover:
- Stay shut (at least, the pictures say so) without any protrusions, clasps, or metal
- Sleep/wake function
- Folding backward
- Wrapped-around corners, especially on the bottom (or the cover is crap to hold)

I assume the cover also has a cutout on the back for the button.

Being a slim-fit cover also foregoes the need to make ugly cutouts in the front. My KPW1 cover has a cutout for the logo, but it's in the middle, on the bottom, and well done, so I don't mind it there. The KA1 cover would need a cutout on the top right for the light sensor, and most have a cutout on the lower left for the logo, which I think is totally useless. It looks ugly.

Ever seen a slide-in cover for a Kindle Voyage? That's just a joke. Cutouts for the light sensor, logo, and the side buttons. There isn't much of a front left on those covers. Readers with stuff on the front (Voyage, and to some extent, the KA1) *need* a slim-fit cover.
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Frack... the description has a completely different cover in it:

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Perfekt auf Ihren Kobo Aura One 7.8" Tablet/e-Reader zugeschnitten.Der Zugriff auf alle Funktionen und Steuerungen.
Mit magnetisch Verschluss und Stift-Schleife.Die Hülle schützt Ihr Gerät rundum und verfügt über einen magnetischen Verschluss.
Lässt sich in einen Multi-Winkel, handfreien Ständer falten um zu tippen, Medien,Film zu betrachten, Facetime zu nutzen und mehr.
Stylus loop (Stiftschleife), and stand function. This cover has also been shown here and I don't want that.

I just hope that it's actually the one shown in the images. If not, it gets returned. Fortunately, Amazon.de has free returns.

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Black slim-fit cover by Forefront cases, on Amazon.de.

It gets 4-5 stars in reviews. I've ordered that one as well, for €12.50 including shipping.

Hoping I like one of the two (MoKo or ForeFront), the other gets returned.
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This one is also nice looking.
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