Cybook Gen3 V1.1 (Build 685) upgrade finally available - Page 12

HarryT · 05-20-2008, 07:53 AM

Thank you for saying that igorsk - I certainly don't say favourable things about the Gen3 because I get anything in return for doing so, and I wouldn't like anyone to get the impression that I did so.

To clarify, the name that I use on this board is not the one that I use in the "real world", and I don't use my "MobileRead" e-mail address to send e-mail. Bookeen have no idea who I am in terms of their customer database, so they could not preferentially answer my e-mail even if they wished to do so.

pvdv · 05-20-2008, 12:58 PM

AH! so i'm not the only one who is experiencing faster battery drainage?
(post above by Ortep).

Isn't this an "odd" problem, since Bookeen claims to have improved battery life with the new firmware?

GeoffC · 05-20-2008, 01:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pvdv

AH! so i'm not the only one who is experiencing faster battery drainage?
(post above by Ortep).

Isn't this an "odd" problem, since Bookeen claims to have improved battery life with the new firmware?

I've not noticed any change, one way or t'other...

Kingston · 05-20-2008, 04:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pvdv

AH! so i'm not the only one who is experiencing faster battery drainage?
(post above by Ortep).

Isn't this an "odd" problem, since Bookeen claims to have improved battery life with the new firmware?

Rather than taking a Vista-like risk on the new build, I ordered a 2nd Cybook with the new build included.

I'll report back which one is 'better'.

Hopefully I can put 538 on the new unit, if it is as troubling as some posts indicate.

Ortep · 05-20-2008, 06:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pvdv

AH! so i'm not the only one who is experiencing faster battery drainage?

Write to them (support@bookeen.com) and let them know. They will give you a link to the old software. And they also will know that I'm not an idiot

and the only one with this problem.

bwaldron · 05-20-2008, 06:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pvdv

AH! so i'm not the only one who is experiencing faster battery drainage?
(post above by Ortep).

Isn't this an "odd" problem, since Bookeen claims to have improved battery life with the new firmware?

After living with the update for awhile, I am also noticing faster drain of the battery.

momghoti · 05-20-2008, 08:30 PM

I have to say that finding out people are getting replies in 10-30 minutes while I'm waiting days is annoying, to say the least. What subject line do you use when emailing Bookeen? Maybe there's a word or phrase that catches their attention.

Ortep · 05-21-2008, 02:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by momghoti

What subject line do you use when emailing Bookeen?

"Firmware Problem" got me an answer in 29 minutes.

But if they are swamped with messages the simplest thing to do is answer the easy ones immediately with a template message like: Here is you link. Problem solved. The more complicated ones will have to be handled later. And if more easy ones arrive, the complicated ones get pushed further backwards.

I know it is not the correct way, but it is only human to do so.

AndyCapon · 05-21-2008, 03:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kingston

Rather than taking a Vista-like risk on the new build, I ordered a 2nd Cybook with the new build included.

I'll report back which one is 'better'.

Hopefully I can put 538 on the new unit, if it is as troubling as some posts indicate.

Hi The new Cybooks do not have the new firmware installed as I just got one!

Andy

HarryT · 05-21-2008, 03:47 AM

They have build 674 installed, which is a lot "newer" than the previous build 538, and which appears to include all of the changes and bugs fixed in the update version 685. You can reflash it to 685 if you wish - I did with mine. It works, but I've not noticed any differences compared with 674. Might just as well leave it at 674.

pilotbob · 05-21-2008, 02:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ortep

I know it is not the correct way, but it is only human to do so.

They need someone running their support department that knows how to do support. Support procedures should counteract the human nature you mention above. Support issues should have priorities and expected response and resolve expectations with a pre-set internal escalation procedure.

BOb

GeoffC · 05-21-2008, 02:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pilotbob

They need someone running their support department that knows how to do support. Support procedures should counteract the human nature you mention above. Support issues should have priorities and expected response and resolve expectations with a pre-set internal escalation procedure.

BOb

They ought to have people at the end of telephone lines / e-mail inboxes, and these persons need to have an empathic nature...

pilotbob · 05-21-2008, 02:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GeoffC

They ought to have people at the end of telephone lines / e-mail inboxes, and these persons need to have an empathic nature...

Of course, the need the resources (people) to do the support. Also, they should not confuse support with customer service. But, having procedures in place, and monitoring response times and resolution times is the only thing that off-sets the easy stuff being handled first and the hard stuff being ignored.

I read and article about Zappos customer service:

http://discussionleader.hbsp.com/tay...ployees_t.html

I tell you, that is how you get raving fans. You don't need a perfect product, good enough is ok. But, if you have the best, most out standing customer support the word of mouth and good will is the kind of marketing you could never afford... and providing excellent customer service is much cheaper than marketing and advertising is.

BOb

GeoffC · 05-22-2008, 10:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pilotbob

Of course, the need the resources (people) to do the support. Also, they should not confuse support with customer service. But, having procedures in place, and monitoring response times and resolution times is the only thing that off-sets the easy stuff being handled first and the hard stuff being ignored.

I read and article about Zappos customer service:

http://discussionleader.hbsp.com/tay...ployees_t.html

I tell you, that is how you get raving fans. You don't need a perfect product, good enough is ok. But, if you have the best, most out standing customer support the word of mouth and good will is the kind of marketing you could never afford... and providing excellent customer service is much cheaper than marketing and advertising is.

BOb

There are a number of customer comments, some favourable - some not, on the blog..only one comment from Bookeen...

We are willing to help, so don't hesitate to re e-mail us for any inquiries.
Our development team is actually studying on an improved way to execute the upgrade file so that you will be able to bypass the SD card.

momghoti · 05-22-2008, 11:43 AM

Bookeen contacted me yesterday (finally). I sent another email, this time to the 'support' address(I had only found the 'contact' one) and waiting until business hours in France. I think that helped a lot, but since they're nine hours off from me it's awkward. They may get so many emails overnight it backs up and they catch up as they can around incoming messages, but if it's busy they never get to all of them. How about it? Do the people getting quick responses email during business hours for them?

05-20-2008, 12:58 PM	#167
pvdv Enthusiast Posts: 31 Karma: 300143 Join Date: Jan 2008 Device: Kobo Aura One, Kobo Aura HD, BeBook Neo	battery drainage AH! so i'm not the only one who is experiencing faster battery drainage? (post above by Ortep). Isn't this an "odd" problem, since Bookeen claims to have improved battery life with the new firmware?

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05-20-2008, 07:53 AM	#166
HarryT eBook Enthusiast Posts: 85,544 Karma: 93383043 Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: UK Device: Kindle Oasis 2, iPad Pro 10.5", iPhone 6	Thank you for saying that igorsk - I certainly don't say favourable things about the Gen3 because I get anything in return for doing so, and I wouldn't like anyone to get the impression that I did so. To clarify, the name that I use on this board is not the one that I use in the "real world", and I don't use my "MobileRead" e-mail address to send e-mail. Bookeen have no idea who I am in terms of their customer database, so they could not preferentially answer my e-mail even if they wished to do so.

05-20-2008, 08:30 PM	#172
momghoti Zealot Posts: 121 Karma: 1000021 Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Hook, UK Device: Cybook Bookeen	I have to say that finding out people are getting replies in 10-30 minutes while I'm waiting days is annoying, to say the least. What subject line do you use when emailing Bookeen? Maybe there's a word or phrase that catches their attention.

05-21-2008, 03:47 AM	#175
HarryT eBook Enthusiast Posts: 85,544 Karma: 93383043 Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: UK Device: Kindle Oasis 2, iPad Pro 10.5", iPhone 6	They have build 674 installed, which is a lot "newer" than the previous build 538, and which appears to include all of the changes and bugs fixed in the update version 685. You can reflash it to 685 if you wish - I did with mine. It works, but I've not noticed any differences compared with 674. Might just as well leave it at 674.

05-22-2008, 11:43 AM	#180
momghoti Zealot Posts: 121 Karma: 1000021 Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Hook, UK Device: Cybook Bookeen	Bookeen contacted me yesterday (finally). I sent another email, this time to the 'support' address(I had only found the 'contact' one) and waiting until business hours in France. I think that helped a lot, but since they're nine hours off from me it's awkward. They may get so many emails overnight it backs up and they catch up as they can around incoming messages, but if it's busy they never get to all of them. How about it? Do the people getting quick responses email during business hours for them?