GOODEREADER announces crowd-funded 'ULTIMATE 6" EINK READER'! - Page 22

eschwartz · 03-22-2016, 09:07 PM

So it looks like @Booxtor heard about this

and is curious to know what people think about "good"ereader's new device.
He was very polite about it too (well, he has to be, he is the competition).

Onyx Boox Max vs. GoodEreader 13.3" (no name)

...

Check out post #8

murg · 03-23-2016, 04:50 PM

They've sold 45 of them.

AnemicOak · 03-24-2016, 12:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by murg

They've sold 45 of them.

So they need 15 more orders for the group order to be a go (I think they said 60 orders needed anyway). Should be doable.

tubemonkey · 03-24-2016, 03:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by murg

They've sold 45 of them.

Quote:

Originally Posted by AnemicOak

So they need 15 more orders for the group order to be a go (I think they said 60 orders needed anyway). Should be doable.

At 59 orders, he'll cancel the promo claiming he didn't get the support he needed. Several months later, he'll announce round three. Ka-ching

pdurrant · 03-25-2016, 09:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by murg

They've sold 45 of them.

47 now. 91% funded with two months left. It looks like he'll hit the $42,000 dollars goal.

I wish crowd funding had been around back when NAEB was raising money for an order CyBook Gen3s.

Question Mark · 03-25-2016, 11:54 PM

Although somewhat strange, I don’t personally find the Flexible Funding campaign all that worrisome. If it looks like a campaign will fall short of its target, one can always request a refund before the end of the campaign. Quite simple. One then need not worry whether the organizer will do the right thing.

That said, it looks like there is no danger of the 13.3 inch campaign missing its target. It’s currently at 98% with almost 2 months left to the campaign.

However, as much as I would like to get my hands on such a device, I’d still be wary about backing this campaign for several reasons:

• He was evasive when directly asked what would happen if the campaign did not reach its target.

• Apart from offering backers from the previous failed campaign a chance to upgrade to the new one, there has been no mention that I could see of whether those backers were offered a refund or whether they would receive the perk they had signed up for. Presumably, some of those backers would not be interested in the larger model.

• The math doesn’t add up. Because shipping seems to be factored into the pledges, they will need more than $42,000 to place an order for 60 units. So they will need to go over the initial target to compensate for that. Given the interest and how much time is left, that shouldn’t be a problem. However, that such details were overlooked from the beginning should make one wonder what other important details might have been overlooked.

• Then there are the grammatical errors and word omissions on their story page. Again, showing the lack of attention to detail.

• The video showing the internet browser is very odd. It simply shows a static image of their website. They don’t bother scrolling down their website or clicking on any links. Nor do they attempt to navigate to any other website. Why not if you are attempting to show how the unit can be used to access the internet? I can still remember trying to surf the internet on a Sony PRS T1. Gave that up very quickly.

I hope the campaign works out and everyone is satisfied. Although less than ideal, it would be terrific to see such a device come to the market, particularly in North America. It might then make some of the other players take notice. Seeing that there is a market, they then might decide to develop a more compelling device. Guess we will see what happens come September.

Canuck_in_Japan · 03-30-2016, 06:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Question Mark

•The math doesn’t add up. Because shipping seems to be factored into the pledges, they will need more than $42,000 to place an order for 60 units. So they will need to go over the initial target to compensate for that.

Actually, the indiegogo page says $699 + shipping. There doesn't seem to be any indication of what the shipping charges are but maybe if you go through with the process it tells you before you buy. Or maybe you never find out until the readers are actually ready to be shipped and then they're held ransom until you pay?

Nate the great · 03-30-2016, 11:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pdurrant

47 now. 91% funded with two months left. It looks like he'll hit the $42,000 dollars goal.

I wish crowd funding had been around back when NAEB was raising money for an order CyBook Gen3s.

That was in the pre-Kindle era. Even if Kickstarter had been around, we would have had a lot of trouble to get press coverage, and other attention.

murg · 03-31-2016, 04:55 AM

68 sold. He's hit his funding, and now has to deliver.

Cinisajoy · 03-31-2016, 09:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by murg

68 sold. He's hit his funding, and now has to deliver.

What happens if he can't deliver?
Or is there a time line to when he has to deliver?

murg · 03-31-2016, 04:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cinisajoy

What happens if he can't deliver?
Or is there a time line to when he has to deliver?

Nothing.
Nope.

The joy of public crowdfunding sites is that you really aren't obligated to deliver.

On Kickstarter, there is no contractual obligation to deliver. You give your money to help the project in the hopes that you get the 'rewards'.

I'm not sure how Indiegogo works, but since they have the 'I get to keep the money you've pledged even if I don't hit my goal' option, I assume they have the same level of not having to deliver.

AnemicOak · 03-31-2016, 11:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cinisajoy

What happens if he can't deliver?
Or is there a time line to when he has to deliver?

EDIT: Nevermind. As Nate pointed out below I was remembering The Earl using Kickstarter in error.

The Earl used Kickstarter and not Indiegogo, but it's an example of another crowdfunded eInk device. They still haven't delivered after almost three years.

To be fair I have read that they are refunding money to those requesting it though.

Good E Reader's device is much less complex than Earl (it appears to be a stock design the, well known, OEM already offers) so it shouldn't be plagued with a bunch of delays, etc. and they should be able to deliver in September as they promise. I hope everyone who pledged gets what they're promised and are very pleased with it.

Nate the great · 03-31-2016, 11:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AnemicOak

The Earl used Kickstarter and not Indiegogo, but it's an example of another crowdfunded eInk device. They still haven't delivered after almost three years.

To be fair I have read that they are refunding money to those requesting it though.

Good E Reader's device is much less complex than Earl (it appears to be a stock design the, well known, OEM already offers) so it shouldn't be plagued with a bunch of delays, etc. and they should be able to deliver in September as they promise. I hope everyone who pledged gets what they're promised and are very pleased with it.

I thought the Earl funded through their own site, not KS?

AnemicOak · 04-01-2016, 12:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nate the great

I thought the Earl funded through their own site, not KS?

You're right. I don't know why I was thinking it was Kickstarter.

murg · 04-01-2016, 05:04 AM

I'm still waiting for my Earl...

03-25-2016, 11:54 PM	#321
Question Mark Wizard Posts: 1,419 Karma: 6513838 Join Date: Mar 2016 Device: More than I need, but not as many as I would like.	Although somewhat strange, I don’t personally find the Flexible Funding campaign all that worrisome. If it looks like a campaign will fall short of its target, one can always request a refund before the end of the campaign. Quite simple. One then need not worry whether the organizer will do the right thing. That said, it looks like there is no danger of the 13.3 inch campaign missing its target. It’s currently at 98% with almost 2 months left to the campaign. However, as much as I would like to get my hands on such a device, I’d still be wary about backing this campaign for several reasons: • He was evasive when directly asked what would happen if the campaign did not reach its target. • Apart from offering backers from the previous failed campaign a chance to upgrade to the new one, there has been no mention that I could see of whether those backers were offered a refund or whether they would receive the perk they had signed up for. Presumably, some of those backers would not be interested in the larger model. • The math doesn’t add up. Because shipping seems to be factored into the pledges, they will need more than $42,000 to place an order for 60 units. So they will need to go over the initial target to compensate for that. Given the interest and how much time is left, that shouldn’t be a problem. However, that such details were overlooked from the beginning should make one wonder what other important details might have been overlooked. • Then there are the grammatical errors and word omissions on their story page. Again, showing the lack of attention to detail. • The video showing the internet browser is very odd. It simply shows a static image of their website. They don’t bother scrolling down their website or clicking on any links. Nor do they attempt to navigate to any other website. Why not if you are attempting to show how the unit can be used to access the internet? I can still remember trying to surf the internet on a Sony PRS T1. Gave that up very quickly. I hope the campaign works out and everyone is satisfied. Although less than ideal, it would be terrific to see such a device come to the market, particularly in North America. It might then make some of the other players take notice. Seeing that there is a market, they then might decide to develop a more compelling device. Guess we will see what happens come September. Last edited by Question Mark; 03-25-2016 at 11:58 PM.

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03-22-2016, 09:07 PM	#316
eschwartz Ex-Helpdesk Junkie Posts: 19,421 Karma: 85400180 Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: The Beaten Path, USA, Roundworld, This Side of Infinity Device: Kindle Touch fw5.3.7 (Wifi only)	So it looks like @Booxtor heard about this and is curious to know what people think about "good"ereader's new device. He was very polite about it too (well, he has to be, he is the competition). Onyx Boox Max vs. GoodEreader 13.3" (no name) ... Check out post #8

03-23-2016, 04:50 PM	#317
murg No Comment Posts: 3,240 Karma: 23878043 Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Australia Device: Kobo: Not just an eReader, it's an adventure!	They've sold 45 of them.

03-31-2016, 04:55 AM	#324
murg No Comment Posts: 3,240 Karma: 23878043 Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Australia Device: Kobo: Not just an eReader, it's an adventure!	68 sold. He's hit his funding, and now has to deliver.

04-01-2016, 05:04 AM	#330
murg No Comment Posts: 3,240 Karma: 23878043 Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Australia Device: Kobo: Not just an eReader, it's an adventure!	I'm still waiting for my Earl...

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