NEW Nook Glowlight Plus

[thetommyboy2k]

Originally Posted by JSWolf

the nook won't work with ADE because it's using MTP instead of showing up as a removable drive. Use Calibre to manage your ADE eBooks and you'll be able to easily put them on your nook.

Yeah, but since the new update is supposed to add support for Adobe DRM ePubs and PDF's, you'd still have to authorize ePubs within ADE in order to transfer to them to the Glowlight Plus, so why would the Glowlight Plus still not work with ADE or am I missing something here?

[eschwartz]

Well, it seems that B&N decided to make you authorize your Adobe ID via the device settings instead of through ADE.
But I would assume as long as you use the same Adobe ID in ADE and the NGP, your ebooks will be readable on the NGP although ADE still won't recognize the device.
Copy them manually, via the file browser.

And B&N for your valiant efforts in reducing market share.
You're very successful, although I am not sure why you want to be successful in that...

[AnemicOak]

Originally Posted by thetommyboy2k

Yeah, but since the new update is supposed to add support for Adobe DRM ePubs and PDF's, you'd still have to authorize ePubs within ADE in order to transfer to them to the Glowlight Plus, so why would the Glowlight Plus still not work with ADE or am I missing something here?

Since it's using MTP instead of USB mass storage I'm not sure ADE will see it. A person will have to download their books using ADE, registered to the same Adobe ID as the Nook, and then manually transfer them over (or have Calibre do it). As long as the Nook and ADE are activated to the same Adobe ID the books should work without using ADE for the actual transfer.

[barryem]

The more I use this new Nook the more I like it and yet, the more I realize it isn't a finished product. I'm pretty sure they rushed it out for the Holiday season before it was ready. Actually I don't feel too bad about that as long as they finish it. I'm a pretty patient guy.

One example of that is the way the screen is always flashing, not when I turn a page but when I do anything else. I tap the Home button and the screen refreshes and then it goes to the home screen and when it gets there it refreshes again. I tap the book to go back into it and the number of refreshes I get before I have a clear page to look at varies from 3 to about 5. And there are a lot of other examples.

As a retired programmer who's written about 3.5 decades of sloppy software I can easily recognize sloppy software when I see it. Sloppy software is part of the process of getting to good software and this just isn't there yet. I think they have a pretty good start and if they keep going this could turn into a very nice reading device. Even with all the little problems I'm already enjoying it. It'll never be a Kindle but I already like it more than I like my Kobos. And I do like the Kobos, too.

I just watched this video comparison with the Kindles:
http://blog.the-ebook-reader.com/201...-review-video/

Nathan points out another issue I hadn't noticed, that it has no quick way to move through a long list of books. On my Kindle that wouldn't bother me because I only keep a few books on the Kindle but I was planning to use this as a kind of storeroom of books for browsing and I'm not sure now whether this is a good choice for that. This is a feature they could add in the future easily enough and I hope this is another example of it being unfinished and not a design choice.

By the way, this morning I tried putting tape over the N Home button so I won't keep hitting it. I tried this with both Scotch tape and a cut out piece of mailing label. Neither works. Both constantly activate the Home button without me even touching it and they make the device unusable. I'll be able to get a small piece of electrical tape tomorrow and I'll try that. It'll be ugly but maybe it'll work.

Barry

[thetommyboy2k]

As much as I like the Nook in general and as much as I like the Glowlight Plus (hardware wise), I can't help but feel like the omission of ADE support by switching to MTP, was done on purpose. As weird as this may sound to a lot of people... I believe B&N is purposely trying to tank the Nook so they can get out of the business. I really believe even if the problems are fixed, this will be the final Nook B&N will release and the Nook will be finished for good.

[MGlitch]

Originally Posted by thetommyboy2k

As much as I like the Nook in general and as much as I like the Glowlight Plus (hardware wise), I can't help but feel like the omission of ADE support by switching to MTP, was done on purpose. As weird as this may sound to a lot of people... I believe B&N is purposely trying to tank the Nook so they can get out of the business. I really believe even if the problems are fixed, this will be the final Nook B&N will release and the Nook will be finished for good.

I'm not sure you understand how business works. BN could simply not produce another Nook and state they are getting out of the ereader business, choosing to focus on content instead. They don't need to tank the Nook to do this, it's already been shown that it's an anchor on their profits.

[barryem]

I agree. I suspect the lack of ADE support is just another example of it not being finished yet. B&N has said it was coming. Someone already said they got the update that includes it so it probably is.

Be patient and if it doesn't get here in a month or two or three then start complaining. In the meantime it does what it does pretty well.

I still think the Voyage is the best ereader we can buy today but this new Nook and the Kobo's are also really good. When a fine ereader like my Kobo Glo is about the worse device on the market we readers are in pretty good shape.

Barry

[thetommyboy2k]

Originally Posted by MGlitch

I'm not sure you understand how business works. BN could simply not produce another Nook and state they are getting out of the ereader business, choosing to focus on content instead. They don't need to tank the Nook to do this, it's already been shown that it's an anchor on their profits.

With all due respect, I do understand how business works. I fully realize B&N couldn't simply produce another Nook and get out of the business. I also realize it's already been shown that it's an anchor on their profits. What I'm saying is that if B&N has made up their minds they eventually (not overnight, but eventually) want out of the business, choosing to either focus on content and/or growing their bread and butter business (physical bookstores), they could do little things here and there to make the Nook less open, therefore less appealing, such as what they've already done (ex: no downloading of purchased books). They wouldn't do a lot at one time as to not piss everyone off all at once so they could try to sell a lot of Nook's as well as content for them, but gradually over time they could.

Having said all of that, I do believe this will end up being the final Nook. B&N may sell this one for a year or maybe two, but I doubt seriously there will be another one unless the Nook business becomes profitable. The writing is sadly on the wall for the Nook and I say that as someone who likes the Nook and the Glowlight Plus (at least hardware-wise).

[MGlitch]

Originally Posted by thetommyboy2k

With all due respect, I do understand how business works. I fully realize B&N couldn't simply produce another Nook and get out of the business. I also realize it's already been shown that it's an anchor on their profits. What I'm saying is that if B&N has made up their minds they eventually (not overnight, but eventually) want out of the business, choosing to either focus on content and/or growing their bread and butter business (physical bookstores), they could do little things here and there to make the Nook less open, therefore less appealing, such as what they've already done (ex: no downloading of purchased books). They wouldn't do a lot at one time as to not piss everyone off all at once so they could try to sell a lot of Nook's as well as content for them, but gradually over time they could.

Having said all of that, I do believe this will end up being the final Nook. B&N may sell this one for a year or maybe two, but I doubt seriously there will be another one unless the Nook business becomes profitable. The writing is sadly on the wall for the Nook and I say that as someone who likes the Nook and the Glowlight Plus (at least hardware-wise).

Spending money to drive away customers, to get out of the ereader business while remaining in the ebook business, and lets be honest it doesn't seem like BN wants to get out of selling content, doesn't make sense. It had been two years since the last eink Nook from BN was released.

Disabling a feature on their website costs relatively little to nothing compared to producing a new device.

I'm not saying the lack of ADE support at launch was a good idea. Merely that it likely was not part of some grand overall scheme to get out of making devices. They could have done that, and not pissed off anyone so long as they continued to sell content for their own devices and other devices. And that would have also cost them less than producing a new device.

It's possible they could have done an software upgrade to the 2013 Glowlight disabling ADE support if they wanted. Put it under the guise of some other feature being added.

Basically producing a new device with the end goal being to no longer produce devices because of lack of features provided in that device is the most expensive route they could have taken.

But we're veering a bit off topic.

[downeaster59]

Updates just keep on comin'... Now I have software version 4.5.1.40. The little changelog from B&N remains the same, though: Adobe DRM, bug fixes, performance improvements. I wonder if there's a way to turn off the updates, other than to not use WiFi!

[Bookworm_Girl]

I still have yet to get updates except the initial one that added Readouts. When I check via settings it says no updates available.

[Nate the great]

Originally Posted by downeaster59

Updates just keep on comin'... Now I have software version 4.5.1.40. The little changelog from B&N remains the same, though: Adobe DRM, bug fixes, performance improvements. I wonder if there's a way to turn off the updates, other than to not use WiFi!

Does it work with Adobe DE yet?

[downeaster59]

I used to use ADE with Google Play Books, but I always had trouble with it so I no longer use it. Sorry. Hopefully, someone else will have the answer.

[MGlitch]

Originally Posted by Bookworm_Girl

I still have yet to get updates except the initial one that added Readouts. When I check via settings it says no updates available.

you can sideload the b&n readouts update if you download it from bn's website.

[zebradude]

Originally Posted by downeaster59

Updates just keep on comin'... Now I have software version 4.5.1.40. The little changelog from B&N remains the same, though: Adobe DRM, bug fixes, performance improvements. I wonder if there's a way to turn off the updates, other than to not use WiFi!

you are SO funny! you want to shut off the updates and the rest of us would LOVE to get them!