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Old 09-21-2009, 05:36 AM   #1
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I'm kind of getting tired of same group of people going through all the threads and bitching about the so called "glare" on 600's screen. And how it is "intolerable" and "unacceptable" and 600 is just a total piece of shit and how Sony failed to make one thing right and they have no idea what their customers want. While some people seem to have never actually possessed a 600 and at best have seen it in a shop. So basically they haven't used the device for any significant length of time. I have been using it close to 2 weeks reading under various lightning conditions and I find it great. The "glare" issues is next to non-existent when reading during daylight or under a good reading light. You need to specifically orient devices under a certain angle to introduce glare.

All in all, if you don't like something - just return it. Saying same thing over and over across countless threads isn't going to magically change anything. If it is not a device for you, fine, maybe somebody else will like it. No point making something look bad because it doesn't suit you.

And to all potential buyers: go to shop and make a decision yourselves. I did. Even after reading countless posts long before the device was released I still went out to see it for myself.
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Old 09-21-2009, 05:46 AM   #2
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Completely agree with you, Seventh Son. I honestly think that, unless you're trying to read with a spotlight, or something like that, the reflectivity of the screen is a complete "non-issue". I've used my 600 in both daylight and a variety of different artificial light conditions, and not had the slightest problem.
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Old 09-21-2009, 06:19 AM   #3
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Well truth be told, if you're allowed to give your opinion, others have that right too, even if it's negative. I for one appreciate the honesty of people and it helped me decide against the 600 and for the 300, since I can't check the device in a store as it's only sold online here in Holland.

Keep that in mind too, not everyone have the choice to check it for real in a store. Here in Holland the Sony machines are only sold by bol.com online since they have an exclusive contract with Sony.

So we have to do with reviews of people who actually used the machine and have first hand experience. And from what I read problems with the 600 are plenty, not only the glare, I am reading about freezing etc, and I can honestly say, having used the 300 for about a week, week and half, I had no problems with the device at all, except for the crappy software it comes with.

And since it was my first e-reader I wanted to make a very informed choice and thanks to everything I read here, the good and the bad, I decided to go with the 300, only wish it came with a bigger screen, although I don't really have a problem reading on it, just put the font size on medium or large, but bigger screen would have been a plus.

So let people voice their opinion even if it's negative because it sure helps people to make an honest choice between devices on user experience if they don't have the ability to check the device for themselves in stores.

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dax123, I'm not against other people's opinion in any way. But some keep repeating same thing over and over and make 600 seem like a lot worse device than it actually is.
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I do love the way both harry and Seventh Son, seem to think that their "opinion" is "fact".

The difference being that people's opinions will differ on the reflection/glare issue. I find it annoying (though not as annoying as some clearly do). The only fact that can be taken from this is that more people seem to be annoyed by it than find it a "non-issue". However another fact is that people tend to be more vocal about the negatives than the positives.

The only thing that should be taken from these threads it is that the reflection/glare is there. And you may find it annoying or not. If you do you should consider the 300 or the 505 as they do not have this problem to the extent that the 600 does.

Thus you should ensure you buy from a store with a good returns policy.

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I do love the way both harry and Seventh Son, seem to think that their "opinion" is "fact".

The difference being that people's opinions will differ on the reflection/glare issue. I find it annoying (though not as annoying as some clearly do). The only fact that can be taken from this is that more people seem to be annoyed by it than find it a "non-issue". However another fact is that people tend to be more vocal about the negatives than the positives.

The only thing that should be taken from these threads it is that the reflection/glare is there. And you may find it annoying or not. If you do you should consider the 300 or the 505 as they do not have this problem to the extent that the 600 does.

Thus you should ensure you buy from a store with a good returns policy.

I agree with you, it's all a matter of opinion and well it's normal it seems that people with negative epxerience are more vocal then those who have positive experiences it's like that with everything on every messageboard I visit. So it's mostly to those who have positive experiences to be more vocal about it and not just let it sit. But don't disrespect those who have negative experiences because they have as much right to voice them as you have about your positive experience.

Me I found it helpful to see both, and at times I began to doubt if I shouldn't have gone for the 600, but seeing more problems pop up, first the glare, then the freezing and now reading about dust under the screen...I keep with the 300 for now and wait and see what else is in the future. I still might buy a bigger screen one someday, but I'll wait and see what the future holds in that regard.
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I agree with you, it's all a matter of opinion and well it's normal it seems that people with negative epxerience are more vocal then those who have positive experiences it's like that with everything on every messageboard I visit. So it's mostly to those who have positive experiences to be more vocal about it and not just let it sit. But don't disrespect those who have negative experiences because they have as much right to voice them as you have about your positive experience.
Certainly everybody has a perfect right to express a viewpoint. What I do find irritating are those people who voice opinions about a machine never having used it. I really think that someone who has actually used a device "for real" has a rather more "believable" perspective on it than someone who's never seen or used it. And that applies to both positive and negative views, of course.

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Certainly everybody has a perfect right to express a viewpoint. What I do find irritating are those people who voice opinions about a machine never having used it. I really think that someone who has actually used a device "for real" has a rather more "believable" perspective on it than someone who's never seen or used it. And that applies to both positive and negative views, of course.
Okay that I have to agree with.

Standing in a store for 5 mintues looking at a locked down, reader is not the same as actually using it for a week. Even if you get to move it about a bit it's not the same.

When I first took my 600 out of the case and saw how reflective the screen is, I thought I would hate it.

Using it not for 10 days, I am happier than I was. But I do still occasionally find situations where I just can't find a position where I'm not getting rlection from somewhere (often I find from the silver strip down the right hand side, not the screen itself).
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I didn't read the OP as someone saying the 600 is perfect, or even as being about the device more than in passing.

I thought the complaint was about people who are apparently going from thread to thread complaining the 600 is unsuitable because of the touch-screen even though they themselves have very little if any experience with the device in question. That's about behavior, not technology.

I've never seen a 600 in person, so I can't really judge. I did see a 505 and 700 side-by-side, and that helped cement my decision of which to buy. All we really know is that the 300 has a clearer screen than the 600 - and that for some purchasers that is going to be the deciding factor. That doesn't mean the 600 is unreadable.

I think different people have different needs - and that both devices have their place.
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I guess reading about the glare issue is probably useful if someone is thinking of buying in place with restocking fee. So it is useful info. It seems some people love the other features of the 600 enough not to mind the glare issue and can make adjustments to minimize it.

I understand the point of the thread , to counteract the "negative" comments from some people that bought the 600 and didn't like it or looked at it in store and didn't like it. And you are attempting to show that there are people that LOVE the 600 and don't know why some people are "shouting so LOUD" about a minor glare problem.

I think that you LOVE the 600 so much and others hate it so much shows that most people might want to go to store to check it out FIRST before buying it sight unseen.
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Well after all the talk back and forth about glare the dicontinuation of the 505, epub, I delayed puchasing the 600. I recieved the 500 as a gift and while it was a little on the gray side I just put my order in for the 600, whew! I am back to being excited, like I was on announcement day! Every new edition will have its improvements and difficulties. In two years who knows what the next edition will look like...especially for Canadians as it appears we won't be getting the 900 at least for awhile..of course I just bought for first cell phone so I'm not exactly cutting edge for tech purchases. Okay! i'm really excited now.
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Completely agree with you, Seventh Son. I honestly think that, unless you're trying to read with a spotlight, or something like that, the reflectivity of the screen is a complete "non-issue". I've used my 600 in both daylight and a variety of different artificial light conditions, and not had the slightest problem.
So which reader do you like best of the 6" and 5" screen ones?
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I'm kind of getting tired of same group of people going through all the threads and bitching about the so called "glare" on 600's screen. And how it is "intolerable" and "unacceptable" and 600 is just a total piece of shit and how Sony failed to make one thing right and they have no idea what their customers want. While some people seem to have never actually possessed a 600 and at best have seen it in a shop. So basically they haven't used the device for any significant length of time. I have been using it close to 2 weeks reading under various lightning conditions and I find it great. The "glare" issues is next to non-existent when reading during daylight or under a good reading light. You need to specifically orient devices under a certain angle to introduce glare.

All in all, if you don't like something - just return it. Saying same thing over and over across countless threads isn't going to magically change anything. If it is not a device for you, fine, maybe somebody else will like it. No point making something look bad because it doesn't suit you.

And to all potential buyers: go to shop and make a decision yourselves. I did. Even after reading countless posts long before the device was released I still went out to see it for myself.

I have changed my opinion on the 600 - I talked to Sony and in fact the screen now uses exotic metamaterials like the ones being used to develop invisibilty shields for DARPA and even at the optimal angle of incedence while standing in direct sunshine there is no glare.

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