pdf readers

arivero · 10-26-2006, 02:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CommanderROR

Can only Adobe viewers reflow tagged PDF?

that was my guess. And I wonder how many tagged PDF files are around, really. Does "Save as PDF..." in MSWord tags the files?

rlauzon · 10-26-2006, 07:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by arivero

that was my guess. And I wonder how many tagged PDF files are around, really. Does "Save as PDF..." in MSWord tags the files?

Don't know about MSWord (since I don't use Microsoft products anymore).

But the concept of "tagged PDFs" seems to be very new. The Linux version of the Acrobat Reader 7.0.8 doesn't support reflow. The Windows version of the Reader 6.? on Windows doesn't support reflow.

And, of course, XPDF (and, therefore, the iLiad) doesn't support reflow.

Seeing as how creating a tagged PDF results in a significantly larger PDF, I really don't see much value in using tagged PDFs today.

CommanderROR · 10-26-2006, 07:35 PM

OK, so I guess i'll have to stay with the old "reformatting" routine until the HTML viewer gets optimized by someone like Scotty...^^

scotty1024 · 10-26-2006, 10:08 PM

Tagged PDF's have been around for over 8 years.

Adobe has an auto-tagger but it often doesn't produce properly re-flowable documents.

I think the best hope for proper re-flow is the new eBook standard.

ath · 10-27-2006, 03:28 AM

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Originally Posted by rlauzon

Seeing as how creating a tagged PDF results in a significantly larger PDF, I really don't see much value in using tagged PDFs today.

The main value of it may be more clear when you consider a newspaper in PDF. PDF need not have any structure at all -- it's all about placing snippets of text on a page, but they need not be placed there in any particular order.

Tagging keeps text threads together: the part on the first page that ends 'continue on page 23', and the second page that is broken over two columns. If you want to be able to 'copy thread', there must be some kind of structure tying it all together.

And I have not even touched on accessibility design.

rlauzon · 10-27-2006, 04:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by scotty1024

Tagged PDF's have been around for over 8 years.

Adobe has an auto-tagger but it often doesn't produce properly re-flowable documents.

I think the best hope for proper re-flow is the new eBook standard.

But if no reader supports tagged PDFs (as far as producing a different display different than a regular PDF), then tagged PDFs are not "supported".

But I agree with your conclusion: we need a real eBook standard.
A page layout format just doesn't cut it.

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10-26-2006, 07:35 PM	#3
CommanderROR eink fanatic Posts: 2,022 Karma: 4924 Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Germany Device: STAReBOOK, iRex Iliad, Sony 505, Kindle 2	OK, so I guess i'll have to stay with the old "reformatting" routine until the HTML viewer gets optimized by someone like Scotty...^^

10-26-2006, 10:08 PM	#4
scotty1024 Banned Posts: 1,300 Karma: 1479 Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Peoples Republic of Washington Device: Reader / iPhone / Librie / Kindle	Tagged PDF's have been around for over 8 years. Adobe has an auto-tagger but it often doesn't produce properly re-flowable documents. I think the best hope for proper re-flow is the new eBook standard.

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