adobe pro rtf wont work on 505?

Floeee · 08-31-2009, 05:27 AM

i converted a pdf into rtf with the adobe pro and the 505 is not recognizing it...
converted the rtf with calibre into another rtf, the 505 is reading it, but there are no pictures anymore and the formatting is also destroyed

do you have any idea, why the 505 isnt reading a rtf file converted with adobe pro?

WillAdams · 08-31-2009, 07:58 AM

Adobe Acrobat doesn't do a very good job of writing out a .rtf --- far better to get the original source document --- if that's not an option, try one of the third-party conversion tools --- I've use Solid PDF in the past and it works well, preserving images and layout, though I've never converted such a file to a .lrf using Sony's software.

William

JSWolf · 08-31-2009, 08:47 AM

if you have MS Word, load the RTF with Word and resave it.

Floeee · 08-31-2009, 09:00 AM

ok thx for your help, will try this now

Floeee · 08-31-2009, 10:02 AM

after resaving my rtf doc, the 505 wont read it

solid pdf makes only white pages, is that because of the trial??

anyone got another hint for converting pdf?

DDHarriman · 08-31-2009, 02:32 PM

Try one thing more:

Resave your PDF to RTF in Adobe Pro.
Open the RTF in word and save it as a WORD file.
Open the WORD file and save it as a RTF file.
Open the RTF in your 505 and see what happens.

If it works, probably you will have a very small font size in the 505, just change it in word to 16 or 18 and before saving the final version.

Best regards,

Floeee · 08-31-2009, 03:19 PM

straange, when i try to save the .doc as a .rtf again
word says, that the file or the path isnt available
tried another path... and hell i want this file, not any other ^^

Elfwreck · 08-31-2009, 03:23 PM

Change the filename; add _2 to the end or something like that.

Floeee · 08-31-2009, 03:39 PM

tried also changing the filenames... but ok i will try again with new filename AND new path

edit: tried also on another disc... path isn available... very strange, never had this problem

DDHarriman · 08-31-2009, 03:41 PM

Strange!

Anyway if you want, I can try to convert the file for you as I have word (2003 and 2007 available) and a 505.

Best regards,

Floeee · 08-31-2009, 03:44 PM

do you have also adobe pro for conversion into rtf?

then you can download the pdf source for my rtf here

http://www.cgarena.com/freestuff/ezine/aug09_issue.html

DDHarriman · 08-31-2009, 06:24 PM

Hi

You really know how to choose them do you not?

OK, we are talking of a very detailed, really heavy formatted pdf magazine!

Anyway: you are perfectly right, saving from Acrobat 8 Pro into an rtf and one gets a 51 Mbyte file (the original pdf is 31 Mbytes).
Loaded the file into the 505 and it’s not recognized as you say.

Now testing.

What I advise in the post above gets an impractical 471 Mbyte rtf file! Amazing!

Now, I went further and created a lrf file (with calibre) from the original pdf and not the rtf file as you did.
The result is a 5.4 Mbyte lrf ebook, who has images but where of it’s formatting is completely lost and most of the times one does not know where the next place in the article is anymore… or if you want a completely useless file.

Soo… to finish with the testing…

I do not know what your intent is, but what I have found is that the initial pdf magazine file is the best one to be seen in the 505.
Most of the pages are perfectly readable in portrait mode, it retains all the formatting and the beautiful images and when the text is too small, choosing the landscape/2 halfs page mode resolves completely the problem.

Best regards,

Floeee · 08-31-2009, 06:33 PM

to me, the portrait mode is too small
landscape mode would work, but i have other pdf (no magazines, but they lose also their formating) where you arent able to read the text
but sometimes in the landscape mode, the text is also not readable to me :/

DDHarriman · 08-31-2009, 06:49 PM

Hi

You are perfectly right and yes it’s not just you, with those pdf’s we all can not read them comfortably or even at all.

For this one, I think it’s acceptable reading it in it’s original format and in landscape.

For others, well you will see in the forums zillions of posts about it, one can not read normaly A4/Letter/bigger formatted pdf’s in an 6” screen reader.
For that you will need a reader with a bigger screen - currently the Irex DR1000S or the Kindle DX are the unique options - or a tabletpc/laptop/desktop.

Converting from pdf into anything else is a pain and there is no “direct” conversion that does it well all the time.
I myself advise nowadays that the best thing is to ocr the pdf (if it’s not protected), save it into the format one wants and then clean and correct the formatting/recognition errors that happen in the ocr process until is acceptable.
This is a hellish and hard process and one should go into it juts if the final result - getting the original pdf formatting and file into another more friendly format - is worthy the hours/days of work it’s need to be put into it .

Best regards,

Floeee · 09-01-2009, 10:01 AM

ok thats good to hear and an explanation what i was looking for long time

so is the screen of the irex iliad 2. edition as big as the one from the dr1000s ??

that could be an alternative
laptop is to unhandy (already got a 15")
kindle is not available in my land (austria)

or i will change to prs600 with zooming, dunno

but thank you very much for this conclusion

08-31-2009, 05:27 AM	#1
Floeee Groupie Posts: 179 Karma: 10 Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Vienna Device: iRex DR1000s returned / Sony PRS-505 returned / Asus eee PC t91	adobe pro rtf wont work on 505? i converted a pdf into rtf with the adobe pro and the 505 is not recognizing it... converted the rtf with calibre into another rtf, the 505 is reading it, but there are no pictures anymore and the formatting is also destroyed do you have any idea, why the 505 isnt reading a rtf file converted with adobe pro?

08-31-2009, 03:39 PM	#9
Floeee Groupie Posts: 179 Karma: 10 Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Vienna Device: iRex DR1000s returned / Sony PRS-505 returned / Asus eee PC t91	tried also changing the filenames... but ok i will try again with new filename AND new path edit: tried also on another disc... path isn available... very strange, never had this problem Last edited by Floeee; 08-31-2009 at 03:43 PM.

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WillAdams Wizard Posts: 1,258 Karma: 3439432 Join Date: Feb 2008 Device: Amazon Kindle Paperwhite (300ppi), Samsung Galaxy Book 12	Adobe Acrobat doesn't do a very good job of writing out a .rtf --- far better to get the original source document --- if that's not an option, try one of the third-party conversion tools --- I've use Solid PDF in the past and it works well, preserving images and layout, though I've never converted such a file to a .lrf using Sony's software. William

08-31-2009, 08:47 AM	#3
JSWolf Resident Curmudgeon Posts: 78,981 Karma: 144284074 Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Roslindale, Massachusetts Device: Kobo Libra 2, Kobo Aura H2O, PRS-650, PRS-T1, nook STR, PW3	if you have MS Word, load the RTF with Word and resave it.

08-31-2009, 09:00 AM	#4
Floeee Groupie Posts: 179 Karma: 10 Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Vienna Device: iRex DR1000s returned / Sony PRS-505 returned / Asus eee PC t91	ok thx for your help, will try this now

08-31-2009, 10:02 AM	#5
Floeee Groupie Posts: 179 Karma: 10 Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Vienna Device: iRex DR1000s returned / Sony PRS-505 returned / Asus eee PC t91	after resaving my rtf doc, the 505 wont read it solid pdf makes only white pages, is that because of the trial?? anyone got another hint for converting pdf?

08-31-2009, 02:32 PM	#6
DDHarriman Guru Posts: 860 Karma: 4380 Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Almada, Portugal Device: Cybook Gen3, Sony PRS 505, Kindle DXG and Samsung Galaxy Note	Try one thing more: Resave your PDF to RTF in Adobe Pro. Open the RTF in word and save it as a WORD file. Open the WORD file and save it as a RTF file. Open the RTF in your 505 and see what happens. If it works, probably you will have a very small font size in the 505, just change it in word to 16 or 18 and before saving the final version. Best regards,

08-31-2009, 03:19 PM	#7
Floeee Groupie Posts: 179 Karma: 10 Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Vienna Device: iRex DR1000s returned / Sony PRS-505 returned / Asus eee PC t91	straange, when i try to save the .doc as a .rtf again word says, that the file or the path isnt available tried another path... and hell i want this file, not any other ^^

08-31-2009, 03:23 PM	#8
Elfwreck Grand Sorcerer Posts: 5,187 Karma: 25133758 Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: SF Bay Area, California, USA Device: Pocketbook Touch HD3 (Past: Kobo Mini, PEZ, PRS-505, Clié)	Change the filename; add _2 to the end or something like that.

08-31-2009, 03:41 PM	#10
DDHarriman Guru Posts: 860 Karma: 4380 Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Almada, Portugal Device: Cybook Gen3, Sony PRS 505, Kindle DXG and Samsung Galaxy Note	Strange! Anyway if you want, I can try to convert the file for you as I have word (2003 and 2007 available) and a 505. Best regards,

08-31-2009, 03:44 PM	#11
Floeee Groupie Posts: 179 Karma: 10 Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Vienna Device: iRex DR1000s returned / Sony PRS-505 returned / Asus eee PC t91	do you have also adobe pro for conversion into rtf? then you can download the pdf source for my rtf here http://www.cgarena.com/freestuff/ezine/aug09_issue.html

08-31-2009, 06:24 PM	#12
DDHarriman Guru Posts: 860 Karma: 4380 Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Almada, Portugal Device: Cybook Gen3, Sony PRS 505, Kindle DXG and Samsung Galaxy Note	Hi You really know how to choose them do you not? OK, we are talking of a very detailed, really heavy formatted pdf magazine! Anyway: you are perfectly right, saving from Acrobat 8 Pro into an rtf and one gets a 51 Mbyte file (the original pdf is 31 Mbytes). Loaded the file into the 505 and it’s not recognized as you say. Now testing. What I advise in the post above gets an impractical 471 Mbyte rtf file! Amazing! Now, I went further and created a lrf file (with calibre) from the original pdf and not the rtf file as you did. The result is a 5.4 Mbyte lrf ebook, who has images but where of it’s formatting is completely lost and most of the times one does not know where the next place in the article is anymore… or if you want a completely useless file. Soo… to finish with the testing… I do not know what your intent is, but what I have found is that the initial pdf magazine file is the best one to be seen in the 505. Most of the pages are perfectly readable in portrait mode, it retains all the formatting and the beautiful images and when the text is too small, choosing the landscape/2 halfs page mode resolves completely the problem. Best regards,

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08-31-2009, 06:33 PM	#13
Floeee Groupie Posts: 179 Karma: 10 Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Vienna Device: iRex DR1000s returned / Sony PRS-505 returned / Asus eee PC t91	to me, the portrait mode is too small landscape mode would work, but i have other pdf (no magazines, but they lose also their formating) where you arent able to read the text but sometimes in the landscape mode, the text is also not readable to me :/

08-31-2009, 06:49 PM	#14
DDHarriman Guru Posts: 860 Karma: 4380 Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Almada, Portugal Device: Cybook Gen3, Sony PRS 505, Kindle DXG and Samsung Galaxy Note	Hi You are perfectly right and yes it’s not just you, with those pdf’s we all can not read them comfortably or even at all. For this one, I think it’s acceptable reading it in it’s original format and in landscape. For others, well you will see in the forums zillions of posts about it, one can not read normaly A4/Letter/bigger formatted pdf’s in an 6” screen reader. For that you will need a reader with a bigger screen - currently the Irex DR1000S or the Kindle DX are the unique options - or a tabletpc/laptop/desktop. Converting from pdf into anything else is a pain and there is no “direct” conversion that does it well all the time. I myself advise nowadays that the best thing is to ocr the pdf (if it’s not protected), save it into the format one wants and then clean and correct the formatting/recognition errors that happen in the ocr process until is acceptable. This is a hellish and hard process and one should go into it juts if the final result - getting the original pdf formatting and file into another more friendly format - is worthy the hours/days of work it’s need to be put into it . Best regards,

09-01-2009, 10:01 AM	#15
Floeee Groupie Posts: 179 Karma: 10 Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Vienna Device: iRex DR1000s returned / Sony PRS-505 returned / Asus eee PC t91	ok thats good to hear and an explanation what i was looking for long time so is the screen of the irex iliad 2. edition as big as the one from the dr1000s ?? that could be an alternative laptop is to unhandy (already got a 15") kindle is not available in my land (austria) or i will change to prs600 with zooming, dunno but thank you very much for this conclusion