PDF Putput

mmaimon · 04-19-2009, 07:07 AM

I am a new user with Calibre and a new owner of the Sony PRS-505, so if my questions were previously answered than my apologies.

I used Calibre to convert a pdf book, the outcome was a pure text, although the font size was reasonable and comfort to read on my ebook reader, the whole graphics of the book seemed to have lost completely. Is this what the outcome should be? or is there a way to use Calibre and still keep some of the appearance of the book right?

I also have Adobe Acrobat, so is there a way to use it in order to receive greater results to use both with Calibre or by itself for the PRS-505?

Thanks a lot.

pepak · 04-19-2009, 07:37 AM

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Originally Posted by mmaimon

Is this what the outcome should be?

With PDF as a source, it is normal.

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I also have Adobe Acrobat, so is there a way to use it in order to receive greater results to use both with Calibre or by itself for the PRS-505?

I very much doubt it.

user_none · 04-19-2009, 11:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mmaimon

... the whole graphics of the book seemed to have lost completely.

Calibre only supports extracting text from pdf files.

Quote:

Originally Posted by mmaimon

I also have Adobe Acrobat, so is there a way to use it in order to receive greater results...

Acrobat Reader only supports extracting text from pdf files.

There are tools out there that can to some extent also extract the images but they mostly work by turning the pdf page into an image cutting it up and scaling it to the screen size.

mmaimon · 04-20-2009, 05:38 AM

Thanks a lot for the swift answers.

I must say that without the book layout the outcome is pretty poor.

so i still want to understand if adobe acrobat pro cannot be used for modifications (i.e. font size, margins etc.) that will create a file that will work with the reader and keep the book layout and redundant the use of Calibre.
If so I’d appreciate if anyone can explain how.

Elfwreck · 04-29-2009, 02:40 AM

Pro will not let you change font sizes unless you are a glutton for mindless, frustrating work. And I say that as someone who's happy to do OCR correction work in Finereader for hours. However, you can:

Crop out the white borders, and read the PDF without converting it. (Sometimes works with paperback/trade paperback sized PDFs; isn't much use for letter-sized pages.)

Save to RTF format, which will save pictures & formatting (although it'll still need proofing & touchup) for most PDFs; reformat the RTF to page sizes good for the Reader (I use 3.47x4.86, with .1" borders all around; Arial 10pt text--but I like small text and thin borders), convert to PDF at that size.

Add bookmarks to either of those options, which become Table of Contents in the Reader.

Change the metadata in either of those, to add the proper title & author.

Save to RTF, then convert with Calibre--you still lose pictures, but the intermediary stage lets you tinker with the formatting, and fix whatever weird line- or page-break issues the PDF added.

Save as HTML, then convert with Calibre. I haven't tried this one; can't tell you how well the image conversion works.

However, all of these depend on the kind of original PDF you have; if it's a scanned image rather than text, these won't work so well. (You can OCR the images with Acrobat's OCR software, but it's fairly poor; you'd then have to save as Word/RTF and do extensive proofreading.) Some publisher's PDFs convert mostly as images because something in the conversion engine balks at the fonts or layouts.

darkmonk · 04-29-2009, 07:24 PM

Actually, I am pretty sure there is some good software that converts pdf to doc - which you can export as html, run through html tidy to clean up the needless tags, and then convert to epub with all formatting. But I'm not totally sure of this - and I don't believe it's free.

Elfwreck · 04-29-2009, 07:35 PM

Acrobat Pro, which the original poster has, will convert to Word doc. There are also a few freeware programs available that do this. (Although really, it's converting to rtf and slapping a .doc extension on it; editing the doc & doing save-as will get an attempt to save as .rtf.)

But exporting .doc to .html from Word, unless you're working with Word 97, is awful. Better to convert the PDF straight to html and edit from there.

Student1 · 04-30-2009, 09:39 AM

Best software i ve found to do a pdf to doc conversion is called Solid Converter Pdf. I use it for most of my conversions to pdf to doc to html and then to lrf. Works great, still not perfect with all pdf s but its the best one i have seen! And not its not freee

04-19-2009, 07:07 AM	#1
mmaimon Junior Member Posts: 9 Karma: 10 Join Date: Mar 2009 Device: prs-505	LRF Output From PDF Using Calibre I am a new user with Calibre and a new owner of the Sony PRS-505, so if my questions were previously answered than my apologies. I used Calibre to convert a pdf book, the outcome was a pure text, although the font size was reasonable and comfort to read on my ebook reader, the whole graphics of the book seemed to have lost completely. Is this what the outcome should be? or is there a way to use Calibre and still keep some of the appearance of the book right? I also have Adobe Acrobat, so is there a way to use it in order to receive greater results to use both with Calibre or by itself for the PRS-505? Thanks a lot. Last edited by mmaimon; 04-19-2009 at 07:25 AM. Reason: tipo

04-20-2009, 05:38 AM	#4
mmaimon Junior Member Posts: 9 Karma: 10 Join Date: Mar 2009 Device: prs-505	Adobe Pro Usage Thanks a lot for the swift answers. I must say that without the book layout the outcome is pretty poor. so i still want to understand if adobe acrobat pro cannot be used for modifications (i.e. font size, margins etc.) that will create a file that will work with the reader and keep the book layout and redundant the use of Calibre. If so I’d appreciate if anyone can explain how.

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04-29-2009, 02:40 AM	#5
Elfwreck Grand Sorcerer Posts: 5,187 Karma: 25133758 Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: SF Bay Area, California, USA Device: Pocketbook Touch HD3 (Past: Kobo Mini, PEZ, PRS-505, Clié)	Pro will not let you change font sizes unless you are a glutton for mindless, frustrating work. And I say that as someone who's happy to do OCR correction work in Finereader for hours. However, you can: Crop out the white borders, and read the PDF without converting it. (Sometimes works with paperback/trade paperback sized PDFs; isn't much use for letter-sized pages.) Save to RTF format, which will save pictures & formatting (although it'll still need proofing & touchup) for most PDFs; reformat the RTF to page sizes good for the Reader (I use 3.47x4.86, with .1" borders all around; Arial 10pt text--but I like small text and thin borders), convert to PDF at that size. Add bookmarks to either of those options, which become Table of Contents in the Reader. Change the metadata in either of those, to add the proper title & author. Save to RTF, then convert with Calibre--you still lose pictures, but the intermediary stage lets you tinker with the formatting, and fix whatever weird line- or page-break issues the PDF added. Save as HTML, then convert with Calibre. I haven't tried this one; can't tell you how well the image conversion works. However, all of these depend on the kind of original PDF you have; if it's a scanned image rather than text, these won't work so well. (You can OCR the images with Acrobat's OCR software, but it's fairly poor; you'd then have to save as Word/RTF and do extensive proofreading.) Some publisher's PDFs convert mostly as images because something in the conversion engine balks at the fonts or layouts.

04-29-2009, 07:24 PM	#6
darkmonk Connoisseur Posts: 58 Karma: 12 Join Date: Jan 2009 Device: none	Actually, I am pretty sure there is some good software that converts pdf to doc - which you can export as html, run through html tidy to clean up the needless tags, and then convert to epub with all formatting. But I'm not totally sure of this - and I don't believe it's free.

04-29-2009, 07:35 PM	#7
Elfwreck Grand Sorcerer Posts: 5,187 Karma: 25133758 Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: SF Bay Area, California, USA Device: Pocketbook Touch HD3 (Past: Kobo Mini, PEZ, PRS-505, Clié)	Acrobat Pro, which the original poster has, will convert to Word doc. There are also a few freeware programs available that do this. (Although really, it's converting to rtf and slapping a .doc extension on it; editing the doc & doing save-as will get an attempt to save as .rtf.) But exporting .doc to .html from Word, unless you're working with Word 97, is awful. Better to convert the PDF straight to html and edit from there.

04-30-2009, 09:39 AM	#8
Student1 Groupie Posts: 159 Karma: 170 Join Date: Feb 2009 Device: PRS-505	Best software i ve found to do a pdf to doc conversion is called Solid Converter Pdf. I use it for most of my conversions to pdf to doc to html and then to lrf. Works great, still not perfect with all pdf s but its the best one i have seen! And not its not freee

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