Side Loaded books not showing up in Library

[frostymug]

I recently updated the firmware in my 11th Gen Paperwhite Signature Edition to 5.18.3. I never download books from Amazon directly to my Kindle. I always first bring them into Calibre, do a minor conversion to improve the look, and then transfer them to the Kindle. After the firmware update, I transferred some books to the Kindle and wanted to place the books in appropriate Collections. I usually do a search for the book using the author's last name. I tried that. They do not show up. I tried finding them by searching using words found in the titles. Still nothing. This has never happened before.

I will say that the next day the books were findable. The only thing I can think of it that perhaps now Amazon thinks it is a good idea of keeping the book hidden until it can complete creating a search index. I am aware of how new books sometimes cannot be searched through until a search index is created which can take some time.

It just irks me to no end that I can't find the book I just added to Kindle and start reading it then and there. I gotta wait.

[artekxp]

Just use the SendToKindle service, so much easier to send books via email than side loading and there is no risk of books disappearing suddenly of you turn the wifi on.

[Sirtel]

Originally Posted by artekxp

Just use the SendToKindle service, so much easier to send books via email than side loading and there is no risk of books disappearing suddenly of you turn the wifi on.

That has nothing to do with the OP's issue, which is due to indexing problems. Books sent via Send to Kindle would still get indexed.

[frostymug]

I have no idea why this is happening but I went ahead and deleted the folder from Kindle where the books were using File Manager in Windows and resending them using Calibre. I rebooted the Kindle and voila, they appear. Any they appear instantly at that. So I don't know if indexing the books was the issue. The hardest problems to solve are the ones that cannot be reproduced and are intermittent.

[Quoth]

Originally Posted by artekxp

Just use the SendToKindle service, so much easier to send books via email than side loading and there is no risk of books disappearing suddenly of you turn the wifi on.

That's rubbish. USB transfer is easier and you charge at the same time.
For a start STK won't accept Kindle format, but USB will.
Secondly Amazon may fail to convert an epub, that Calibre does convert.
Thirdly it uses the internet twice.
Fourth, there is a STK size limit (different for Web and email).
Fifth, bulk transfers work on USB, not STK.
Six, you are giving Amazon a copy. That abuses your privacy and the right holders might not agree.

Amazon deleting ebooks seems to be a bug and it can be avoided, by not using an ASIN and also using PDOC and not EBOK flags. Complain if Amazon deletes content as that is actually a criminal offence in many countries.

Technically even if you use STK or WiFi, it's "sideloading". It's not sideloading a KU loan via WiFi or a copy bought from Amazon (now only WiFi / Cell), but anything else is really "sideloading".

[JBaby]

Originally Posted by Quoth

Amazon deleting ebooks seems to be a bug and it can be avoided, by not using an ASIN and also using PDOC and not EBOK flags. Complain if Amazon deletes content as that is actually a criminal offence in many countries.

Taking Kindle out of airplane mode every so often avoids all of this. I add ASIN to all of my books. I don’t use PDOC. My books have covers, Goodreads integration, and I’ve never lost a single book to this bug on any of the 3 Kindles in my household. These Kindles are rarely in airplane mode.

[shalym]

Originally Posted by Quoth

That's rubbish. USB transfer is easier and you charge at the same time.
For a start STK won't accept Kindle format, but USB will.
Secondly Amazon may fail to convert an epub, that Calibre does convert.
Thirdly it uses the internet twice.
Fourth, there is a STK size limit (different for Web and email).
Fifth, bulk transfers work on USB, not STK.
Six, you are giving Amazon a copy. That abuses your privacy and the right holders might not agree.

Amazon deleting ebooks seems to be a bug and it can be avoided, by not using an ASIN and also using PDOC and not EBOK flags. Complain if Amazon deletes content as that is actually a criminal offence in many countries.

Technically even if you use STK or WiFi, it's "sideloading". It's not sideloading a KU loan via WiFi or a copy bought from Amazon (now only WiFi / Cell), but anything else is really "sideloading".

USB transfer is easier for YOU. Not for everyone. I use send to Kindle for all of my non-Amazon purchases for many reasons...number one is convenience. I know that I *can* keep almost every book I own on each of my devices, but...why? If I were to use USB transfer only, then I would have to transfer each book to each of my Kindles every time I buy it. That would be *extremely* inconvenient, especially since one of them lives at my office and never comes home. Another one is perpetually upstairs next to my bed, and pretty much never comes down where the computer is.

I know that most people do not use e-readers like I do, but I also know of quite a few people who use Kindles that don't even own conventional computers--some have only Chromebooks and quite a few only have iPads. At least with their Kindles they have the opportunity to easily get books from other places (as long as they're DRM free, of course). It would be much harder if they had a different reader.

Shari

[DNSB]

Originally Posted by shalym

At least with their Kindles they have the opportunity to easily get books from other places (as long as they're DRM free, of course). It would be much harder if they had a different reader.

Several friends of mine with non-Kindle ereaders such as Kobo, Tolino and Pocketbook would disagree with you. They use their iPad, iPhone, Chromebook, Android tablet, etc. to obtain their books and then copy them to cloud storage (DropBox, Google Drive, Tolino Cloud, Pocketbook cloud, etc.) and then download them to their ereaders. If they want to read a DRMmed ebook, they have a variety of apps on their devices to allow reading those as well.

One nice thing is that unlike Amazon, most other ebook stores only apply DRM when it is requested. And no, I do not consider Amazon's claim that using a generic KFX key is equivalent to supplying a copy without DRM is valid.

[Sirtel]

Originally Posted by shalym

At least with their Kindles they have the opportunity to easily get books from other places (as long as they're DRM free, of course). It would be much harder if they had a different reader.

Pocketbooks have the Send to Kindle equivalent (Pocketbook Cloud) and also sync the reading position between books sent there. And you can send books to Kobos wirelessly as well (via Dropbox or Google Drive), you just can't sync the reading position unless you buy and download directly from Kobo.

[shalym]

Originally Posted by Sirtel

Pocketbooks have the Send to Kindle equivalent (Pocketbook Cloud) and also sync the reading position between books sent there. And you can send books to Kobos wirelessly as well (via Dropbox or Google Drive), you just can't sync the reading position unless you buy and download directly from Kobo.

So if I am out somewhere and find that I have a 1/2 hour or so of unanticipated free time I could just connect my Kobo to my phone's hot spot and download the book--that's a nice feature that I didn't realize was available now. It would be nicer if I could just open the book and have it be at the same place that it was on whatever other reader I was using, but at least I would have the book.

I have considered replacing my Kindles with Pocketbooks because of the cloud feature that they have, when the time comes for me to leave Amazon.

Shari