KFX glitches on non-breaking space

nabsltd · 08-26-2023, 11:21 PM

The following snippet of source in an EPUB (which I checked 3 times to make sure there wasn't any sort of invisible character in it):

Code:

which started at three&nbsp;<span class="smallcaps">P.M.</span> and went

resulted in this display on a Kindle, after conversion to KFX:

Code:

which started at three-
 P.M. and went

Because of the non-breaking space, the Kindle treated "three P.M." as a single word, and then hyphenated it.

Quoth · 08-27-2023, 03:56 AM

Turn off hyphenation?
Don't use KFX, which is less similar than azw3 to epub. The advantages of it are oversold.

That seems to me like intended behaviour, not a glitch because of three rather than 3.

Also 3 rather than three is more common for time. It might not hyphenate

Code:

started at 3&nbsp;<span class="smallcaps">P.M.</span> and went

Chicago guide & AP has 3 p.m.
3 pm is also common.

Style guides also indicate when numbers should be digits and when spelled. Phone numbers, time, credit cards, house numbers etc should be digits.

Sometimes the space is the smaller space used for a value as digits with units as in 3 kg. Those also come in regular and non-breaking.

For compatibility only PDF or paper should use small caps and smaller size spaces.

JSWolf · 08-27-2023, 04:47 AM

get rid of the non-breaking space,

nabsltd · 08-28-2023, 09:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JSWolf

get rid of the non-breaking space,

The whole point of the non-breaking space is that the time (i.e., "2 p.m.") shouldn't be split across two lines.

I think @Quoth had it right in that it was caused by using the word instead of a number. I hadn't seen it before in hundreds of books, all formatted with non-breaking spaces between the number and the [ap].m.

JSWolf · 08-28-2023, 09:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nabsltd

The whole point of the non-breaking space is that the time (i.e., "2 p.m.") shouldn't be split across two lines.

I think @Quoth had it right in that it was caused by using the word instead of a number. I hadn't seen it before in hundreds of books, all formatted with non-breaking spaces between the number and the [ap].m.

p.m. can still be split at the periods. So you could end up with...

2 p.
m.

08-26-2023, 11:21 PM	#1
nabsltd Fanatic Posts: 517 Karma: 8500000 Join Date: Aug 2013 Location: Hamden, CT Device: Kindle Paperwhite (11th gen), Scribe, Kindle 4 Touch	KFX glitches on non-breaking space The following snippet of source in an EPUB (which I checked 3 times to make sure there wasn't any sort of invisible character in it): Code: which started at three <span class="smallcaps">P.M.</span> and went resulted in this display on a Kindle, after conversion to KFX: Code: which started at three- P.M. and went Because of the non-breaking space, the Kindle treated "three P.M." as a single word, and then hyphenated it.

08-27-2023, 03:56 AM	#2
Quoth Still reading Posts: 13,653 Karma: 103503445 Join Date: Jun 2017 Location: Ireland Device: All 4 Kinds: epub eink, Kindle, android eink, NxtPaper	Turn off hyphenation? Don't use KFX, which is less similar than azw3 to epub. The advantages of it are oversold. That seems to me like intended behaviour, not a glitch because of three rather than 3. Also 3 rather than three is more common for time. It might not hyphenate Code: started at 3 <span class="smallcaps">P.M.</span> and went Chicago guide & AP has 3 p.m. 3 pm is also common. Style guides also indicate when numbers should be digits and when spelled. Phone numbers, time, credit cards, house numbers etc should be digits. Sometimes the space is the smaller space used for a value as digits with units as in 3 kg. Those also come in regular and non-breaking. For compatibility only PDF or paper should use small caps and smaller size spaces. Last edited by Quoth; 08-27-2023 at 04:07 AM.

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