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Old 05-07-2023, 07:23 PM   #1
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Book details->Copy->All book details

This copies the book details panel including all of its markup code to the clipboard - essentially what can be seen in the following screenshot:

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Name:	Screenshot 2023-05-08 085741.jpg
Views:	167
Size:	87.0 KB
ID:	201455

I'm not sure what the use case is - but the code behind all the blue values (apart from the Links column) are like this:
Code:
<tr>
<td bgcolor="transparent" style="vertical-align: top">
<p style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; text-indent: 0px; background-color: transparent"><strong style="font-family: 'Segoe UI Mono','Consolas','monospace'; font-size: 13px; background-color: transparent">Publisher:</strong></p></td>
<td bgcolor="transparent" style="vertical-align: top">
<p style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; text-indent: 0px; background-color: transparent"><a href="action:7b227465726d223a20227075626c6973686572222c202276616c7565223a20224a6f686e20486f706b696e7320556e6976657273697479222c20226669656c64223a20227075626c6973686572222c2022626f6f6b5f6964223a203832302c202274797065223a2022736561726368227d"><span style="font-size: 13px; color: #6cb4ee">John Hopkins University</span></a></p></td></tr>
<tr>
I'm at a loss as what one would do with this, apart from paste it into a calibre Long text cell in a book in the same library, but why would you want to do that when you can paste a calibre://book-details link?

IMO it should be be possible to copy something more like this (from the calibre://show-details link labelled Self), i.e. plain text:

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Views:	142
Size:	59.4 KB
ID:	201457

The columns that are shown in blue which I've boxed in red are virtual columns, IMO they shouldn't have a href="blah blah…" coding. Whereas calibre://, http://, file:/// etc links (i.e. advertised protocols) should retain their a href="blah blah…" coding.

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Old 05-07-2023, 10:23 PM   #2
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IIRC it copies both HTML and plain text. you choose whichever version you want to paste in the pasting program. And HTML can be used anywhere, for instance you can add the book details to an HTML page, you can paste as rich text in Word, etc.
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Old 05-08-2023, 12:34 AM   #3
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If I strip out all the markup, I get this

Code:
Id: 820 Title: 2019 Global Health Security Index Title sort: 2019 Global Health Security Index Authors: Dr. David M. Barash Author sort: Barash, David M. Author No Link: Dr. David M. Barash Links: Self Virtual Libraries Vanilla: EPUBS, Has Cover, Has Publisher Virtual Libraries Taglike: EPUBS, Has Cover, Has Publisher Date: 2023-02-24 09:23:12 Folder: Book files Formats: DOCXEPUBPDF Published: 2020-03-24 Publisher: John Hopkins University uuid: 3e10a4b7-c3d2-4374-9bef-6ecf8347c864 Modified: 2023-05-08 08:56:23 Size: 6.19 MB Languages: English Has Notes: N ePUB Size: 6485480 Has Category: False DateMonth: 2020-03-24 File Date: 23 02 2023 22:21:50 Approx Formats: DOCX,EPUB Epub Date: 2023-02-24 eSize: 6485480 Book #: 820
I'd like an option to get something more like this, i.e. where each column is on a new line rather than being concatenated into a long string:

Title: 2019 Global Health Security Index
Authors: Dr. David M. Barash
Links: Self
Formats: DOCX, EPUB, PDF
Published: 2020-03-24
Publisher: John Hopkins University
Languages: English
File Date: 23 02 2023 22:21:50
Approx Formats: DOCX,EPUB,PDF
Epub Date: 2023-02-24
eSize: 6485480
Book #: 820

Then I can paste it into anything, such as a text email, and cut out the stuff I don't want with relative ease.

I suggest Book details settings be updated with something like this:

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Name:	Screenshot 2023-05-08 141224.jpg
Views:	137
Size:	210.2 KB
ID:	201460

Default would be All links (i.e. status quo), the Advertised links option is what is provided by the calibre://book-details link popup, and the Plain text only option is the same after the <a href…></a> markup is stripped.

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Old 05-08-2023, 06:22 AM   #4
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Dont strip out markup paste the plain text version. it already comes with proper newlines.
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Dont strip out markup paste the plain text version. it already comes with proper newlines.
How do I get the 'plain text version with proper new lines' ?

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Paste it in notepad for example.
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In Notepad I get the same long string I posted before, no newlines.

Same in Notepad++, SciTE, and Word (with no formatting on paste).

Here's an example of what it looks like in SciTE - with Wrap on.
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Name:	SciTE shot.jpg
Views:	151
Size:	476.6 KB
ID:	201469

Blurb and Notes are long text columns with header on top, the Links column, which I've highlighted, is also a long text column with header to the side.

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weird must be a windwos thing. unfortunately am travelling right now so cant check as i dont have a windows system with me.
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Using Windows 10, I tried this by calling up the Book Details►Context Menu►Copy►All Book Details.

When I pasted it, there were no html tags. Each item on its own line. The below is a copy and paste directly from Calibre. No Notepad++ in between.

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Code:
Title: Mentats of Dune
Authors: Brian Herbert & Kevin J. Anderson
Series: VIII of Dune
Published: 11 Mar 2014
Publisher: Tom Doherty & Associates
Tags: Library
Id: 457
Ids: 9781429949767, Amazon.com, Google
Formats: EPUB
Folder: Book files
Size: 1.49 MB
Word Count: 167,882
The thinking machines have been defeated but the struggle for humanity's future continues. 
Gilbertus Albans has founded the Mentat School, a place where humans can learn the efficient techniques of thinking machines. But Gilbertus walks an uneasy line between his own convictions and compromises in order to survive the Butlerian fanatics, led by the madman Manford Torondo and his Swordmaster Anari Idaho. Mother Superior Raquella attempts to rebuild her Sisterhood School on Wallach IX, with her most talented and ambitious student, Valya Harkonnen, who also has another goal―to exact revenge on Vorian Atreides, the legendary hero of the Jihad, whom she blames for her family's downfall. 
Meanwhile, Josef Venport conducts his own war against the Butlerians. VenHold Spacing Fleet controls nearly all commerce thanks to the superior mutated Navigators that Venport has created, and he places a ruthless embargo on any planet that accepts Manford Torondo's anti-technology pledge, hoping to starve them into submission. But fanatics rarely surrender easily . . . 
The Mentats, the Navigators, and the Sisterhood all strive to improve the human race, but each group knows that as Butlerian fanaticism grows stronger, the battle will be to choose the path of humanity's future―whether to embrace civilization, or to plunge into an endless dark age.
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Works exactly the same under MacOS and Windows 11 when I paste into TextEdit or Notepad++. Spoiler is from Notepad++.

Spoiler:

Authors: Jim C. Hines
Series: II of Janitors of the Post-Apocalypse
Formats: EPUB
Folder: Book files
Word Count: 92,747
Pages: 270
### Comments:
Human civilization didn’t just fall. It was pushed.
The Krakau came to Earth in the year 2104. By 2105, humanity had been reduced to shambling, feral monsters. In the Krakau’s defense, it was an accident, and a century later, they did come back and try to fix us. Sort of.
It’s been four months since Marion “Mops” Adamopoulos learned the truth of that accident. Four months since she and her team of hygiene and sanitation specialists stole the EMCS Pufferfish and stopped a bioterrorism attack against the Krakau homeworld. Four months since she set out to find proof of what really happened on Earth all those years ago.
Between trying to protect their secrets and fighting the xenocidal Prodryans, who’ve been escalating their war against everyone who isn’t Prodryan, the Krakau have their tentacles full.
Mops’ mission changes when she learns of a secret Krakau laboratory on Earth. A small group under command of Fleet Admiral Belle-Bonne Sage is working to create a new weapon, one that could bring victory over the Prodryans … or drown the galaxy in chaos.
To discover the truth, Mops and her rogue cleaning crew will have to do the one thing she fears most: return to Earth, a world overrun by feral apes, wild dogs, savage humans, and worse. (After all, the planet hasn’t been cleaned in a century and a half!) What Mops finds in the filthy ruins of humanity could change everything, assuming she survives long enough to share it.
Perhaps humanity isn’t as dead as the galaxy thought.
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Using Windows 10, I tried this by calling up the Book Details►Context Menu►Copy►All Book Details.

When I pasted it, there were no html tags. Each item on its own line. The below is a copy and paste directly from Calibre. No Notepad++ in between.

Spoiler:
Code:
Title: Mentats of Dune
Authors: Brian Herbert & Kevin J. Anderson
Series: VIII of Dune
Published: 11 Mar 2014
Publisher: Tom Doherty & Associates
Tags: Library
Id: 457
Ids: 9781429949767, Amazon.com, Google
Formats: EPUB
Folder: Book files
Size: 1.49 MB
Word Count: 167,882
The thinking machines have been defeated but the struggle for humanity's future continues. 
Gilbertus Albans has founded the Mentat School, a place where humans can learn the efficient techniques of thinking machines. But Gilbertus walks an uneasy line between his own convictions and compromises in order to survive the Butlerian fanatics, led by the madman Manford Torondo and his Swordmaster Anari Idaho. Mother Superior Raquella attempts to rebuild her Sisterhood School on Wallach IX, with her most talented and ambitious student, Valya Harkonnen, who also has another goal―to exact revenge on Vorian Atreides, the legendary hero of the Jihad, whom she blames for her family's downfall. 
Meanwhile, Josef Venport conducts his own war against the Butlerians. VenHold Spacing Fleet controls nearly all commerce thanks to the superior mutated Navigators that Venport has created, and he places a ruthless embargo on any planet that accepts Manford Torondo's anti-technology pledge, hoping to starve them into submission. But fanatics rarely surrender easily . . . 
The Mentats, the Navigators, and the Sisterhood all strive to improve the human race, but each group knows that as Butlerian fanaticism grows stronger, the battle will be to choose the path of humanity's future―whether to embrace civilization, or to plunge into an endless dark age.
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Yep, and you have given me a clue. If I access the same book in the same library from a vanilla calibre 6.17 portable install I get what I want from BD->Copy->Full details… (except, multi-value columns don't get separators).

Spoiler:

Id: 159
Title: The Bankers' New Clothes
Title sort: Bankers' New Clothes, The
Yet Another LTC: Yes - it's yet another long text column
Authors: Anat AdmatiMartin Hellwig
Author sort: Admati, Anat & Hellwig, Martin
Author No Link: Anat Admati & Martin Hellwig
Links: Self NSW Respiratory Surveillance Report - week ending 05 November 2022 - NSW Health Book Details Show Book View PDF popup Attachments
Location: MR Home Page Some book or other Text file test Onenote Test View Book CS Books
Virtual Libraries Vanilla: EPUBS, Has Cover, Has Location, Has Publisher
Virtual Libraries Taglike: EPUBS, Has Cover, Has Location, Has Publisher
Date: 08 Dec 2012
Folders: Book files, Data files
Formats: DOCXEPUBPDF
IDs: 9780691156842Amazon.comGoogle
Series: I of Hello
Tags: BankingEconomic HistoryEconomicsGFCPolitical Science
Published: Feb 2013
Publisher: Princeton University Press
Admin Tags: add.three
Awards: Miles Franklin
Refer To: some link to book
Rating: ★★★★
uuid: 9f1f4fe3-03fa-4cd1-9a1f-2fb1065a074a
Modified: 09 May 2023
Size: 3.06 MB
Languages: English
Status: Value 3
Words: 173,137
Has Notes: N
ISBN: 9780691156842
Born: 0
Meta Date: 0102 01 01
ePUB Size: 617968
Has Category: False
My Rating: ★★★
Characters: Aaron Hotchner
Relationships: Angela/Jack, Penelope/Derek
I1: -4
I2: 0
Relationships Anded: Angela/Jack & Penelope/Derek
Last Viewed: 2016-10-20 - 18:57:44
DateMonth: Feb 2013
Have Read: Yes
Format Files: DOCX:\Calibre\Libraries\Test\Anat Admati\The Bankers' New Clothes (159)\The Bankers' New Clothes - Anat Admati.docx,EPUB:\Calibre\Libraries\Test\Anat Admati\The Bankers' New Clothes (159)\The Bankers' New Clothes - Anat Admati.epub,PDF:\Calibre\Libraries\Test\Anat Admati\The Bankers' New Clothes (159)\The Bankers' New Clothes - Anat Admati.pdf
My Yes/No: Y
Fred: black
Centre: Yes
SemiTest: val1; val2, val3
File Date: 18 07 2019 07:39:20
Series Sort: Hello
Approx Formats: DOCX,EPUB,PDF
ASIN: 1480577006
Float: 17.32010
Epub Date: 2023-03-08
On Cloud Nine: To Cloud
Partial Date: 2009.11
eSize: 617968
Series Name: Hello
Book #: 159
### Blurb:
What is wrong with today's banking system? The past few years have shown that risks in banking can impose significant costs on the economy. Many claim, however, that a safer banking system would require sacrificing lending and economic growth. "The Bankers' New Clothes" examines this claim and the narratives used by bankers, politicians, and regulators to rationalize the lack of reform, exposing them as invalid.
Admati and Hellwig argue we can have a safer and healthier banking system without sacrificing any of the benefits of the system, and at essentially no cost to society. They show that banks are as fragile as they are not because they must be, but because they want to be--and they get away with it. Whereas this situation benefits bankers, it distorts the economy and exposes the public to unnecessary risks. Weak regulation and ineffective enforcement allowed the buildup of risks that ushered in the financial crisis of 2007-2009. Much can be done to create a better system and prevent crises. Yet the lessons from the crisis have not been learned.
Admati and Hellwig seek to engage the broader public in the debate by cutting through the jargon of banking, clearing the fog of confusion, and presenting the issues in simple and accessible terms. "The Bankers' New Clothes" calls for ambitious reform and outlines specific and highly beneficial steps that can be taken immediately.
* * *
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### Notes:
The recent string of bank collapses in the US were at least partly driven by the Federal Reserve Board’s tightening of financial conditions. Now there’s a fear that they could contribute to a broader credit crunch.
The Fed’s twice-yearly financial stability report, released on Monday, warned that ongoing stresses in the banking system could lead to a broader contraction in credit and result in a marked economic slowdown.

I tried running installed 6.17 with no plugins, and I still got everything (except long text columns with heading on top) concatenated in one long string.

So, it appears that a calibre setting is having an effect on what gets copied - given it's the same on all my libraries it is probably a global setting. I'll do a test in safe mode to make sure its not an interaction with something else.

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Still got the problem in Safe mode.

I renamed my config folder, created an empty one, started calibre at the welcome wizard, hooked it up to my Test library and copied the same book details - et voilà I got the result I want. So, its definitely something in the global settings, I'll put them back as they were and have a peek and poke… tweaks.json and py are obvious candidates… although nothing springs to front of mind.

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99% sure my problem is caused by having the book details panel UNDER the book list, if I put it to the left of the book list I get a plain text BD with newlines when I right click BD and select Copy->All book details.

Perhaps someone can confirm by changing Prefs->L&F>General->User interface layout to Narrow and try coffee and pasting Book details.

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The function that does this doesnt refer to any settings so I cant think of anything that would affect it. It basically just takes the html from the widget preproceses it a bit and converts it to text using the html2text library.
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99% sure my problem is caused by having the book details panel UNDER the book list, if I put it to the left of the book list I get a plain text BD with newlines when I right click BD and select Copy->All book details.

Perhaps someone can confirm by changing Prefs->L&F>General->User interface layout to Narrow and try coffee and pasting Book details.

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That might explain it as in this mode the html is different. So the conversion to text doesnt work as well
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