Koreader/Nickel Shared Folders

jbenwell · 06-05-2021, 10:32 AM

I apologize if this is documented. I looked around and couldn't find an answer.

Is there a folder that the KOReader Dropbox plugin can sync books to, which is also visible to Nickle?

I have the "don't scan hidden folders" option turned on. I'd prefer to keep it on.

Thanks!
Jason

NiLuJe · 06-05-2021, 11:37 AM

Everything shoud be visible to Nickel unless you have a seriously twisty setup (i.e., a base library *inside* a hidden folder), but that would imply knowing what you were doing (which usually involved *not* letting Nickel see stuff), so, you wouldn't be here asking this question

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So, the most obvious answer is simply: Nickel doesn't rescan for new content outside of in-nickel USBMS sessions. But, NickelMenu allows you to do that on-demand instead, so, do that

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jbenwell · 06-06-2021, 10:53 AM

Thanks very much. NickelMenu worked.

I thought Nickel would do a content refresh on reboot, but it doesn't

NiLuJe · 06-06-2021, 01:28 PM

Yeah, that confused me too when first switching from a Kindle, where the framework does do it on startup

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jbenwell · 06-06-2021, 03:43 PM

I also added menu options to restart and shut down. It saves having to go into Koreader to do that

I believe Nickel Menu persists across firmware updates. Is there a way to add a menu option / command to reinstall Koreader after such an update? It'd be nice to get it running again without a computer.

Thanks!

NiLuJe · 06-06-2021, 05:03 PM

KOReader isn't affected by a Nickel update.

mzel · 06-06-2021, 05:11 PM

Actually I've hit the reverse situation where books visible to Nickel were not found by KOreader. Those books were brought over to my Kobo via Dropbox synchronization. That directory is deep rooted in the directory tree, and is hidden from Kobo. Is there a way to make KOreader see that location?

pazos · 06-06-2021, 06:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mzel

Actually I've hit the reverse situation where books visible to Nickel were not found by KOreader. Those books were brought over to my Kobo via Dropbox synchronization. That directory is deep rooted in the directory tree, and is hidden from Kobo. Is there a way to make KOreader see that location?

The file manager has an option to show hidden files. Enable it and navigate to your dropbox folder.

jbenwell · 06-06-2021, 06:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NiLuJe

KOReader isn't affected by a Nickel update.

You're right, of course. I believe that KFMon requires reinstallation. Is there a way to do that, or to launch KOReader without KFMon or with some other launcher that does persist?

Thanks!

mzel · 06-07-2021, 11:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pazos

The file manager has an option to show hidden files. Enable it and navigate to your dropbox folder.

I understand that, but this will browse all the system directories too, not sure if that has some negative side effect on time of opening of the file manager, or on what is displayed.
Will be placing a symbolic link to the hidden location sufficient to bypass the issue?

NiLuJe · 06-07-2021, 12:38 PM

@mzel: Can't symlink, it's FAT32. I don't quite remember where Dropbox is sync'ed to, but if it's inside .kobo, we, err, blacklist that regardless of showing hidden files or not ^^.

I'll double-check on the Forma, because the stock Dropbox sync'ing is so meh' that I'll admit I hadn't thought of that when implementing the blacklist (the main goal was preventing getting lost in there, because DRM & thumbnails & nickel settings).

@jbenwell: The OCP ships example configs for switching to a plain NM setup.

NiLuJe · 06-07-2021, 12:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NiLuJe

I'll double-check on the Forma, because the stock Dropbox sync'ing is so meh' that I'll admit I hadn't thought of that when implementing the blacklist (the main goal was preventing getting lost in there, because DRM & thumbnails & nickel settings).

And, of course, it's in .kobo/dropbox :/.

That's... annoying :/.

I can't really offer you a better solution that just manually patching out the .kobo blacklist: https://github.com/koreader/koreader...hooser.lua#L34

mzel · 06-08-2021, 10:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NiLuJe

And, of course, it's in .kobo/dropbox :/.

That's... annoying :/.

I can't really offer you a better solution that just manually patching out the .kobo blacklist: https://github.com/koreader/koreader...hooser.lua#L34

No problem, do I still need to allow the hidden dir scan in the options?

NiLuJe · 06-08-2021, 01:13 PM

@mzel: Yup (leading dot == hidden).

jbenwell · 06-08-2021, 03:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NiLuJe

@jbenwell: The OCP ships example configs for switching to a plain NM setup.

Thank you! That worked.

I bring my Kobo and no computer when I travel, and would prefer not to lose the ability to run KOReader if I manage to apply a firmware update.

06-05-2021, 10:32 AM	#1
jbenwell Member Posts: 20 Karma: 10 Join Date: Feb 2020 Device: Kobo Forma	Koreader/Nickel Shared Folders I apologize if this is documented. I looked around and couldn't find an answer. Is there a folder that the KOReader Dropbox plugin can sync books to, which is also visible to Nickle? I have the "don't scan hidden folders" option turned on. I'd prefer to keep it on. Thanks! Jason

06-07-2021, 12:38 PM	#11
NiLuJe BLAM! Posts: 13,506 Karma: 26047190 Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Paris, France Device: Kindle 2i, 3g, 4, 5w, PW, PW2, PW5; Kobo H2O, Forma, Elipsa, Sage, C2E	@mzel: Can't symlink, it's FAT32. I don't quite remember where Dropbox is sync'ed to, but if it's inside .kobo, we, err, blacklist that regardless of showing hidden files or not ^^. I'll double-check on the Forma, because the stock Dropbox sync'ing is so meh' that I'll admit I hadn't thought of that when implementing the blacklist (the main goal was preventing getting lost in there, because DRM & thumbnails & nickel settings). @jbenwell: The OCP ships example configs for switching to a plain NM setup. Last edited by NiLuJe; 06-07-2021 at 12:50 PM.

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06-05-2021, 11:37 AM	#2
NiLuJe BLAM! Posts: 13,506 Karma: 26047190 Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Paris, France Device: Kindle 2i, 3g, 4, 5w, PW, PW2, PW5; Kobo H2O, Forma, Elipsa, Sage, C2E	Everything shoud be visible to Nickel unless you have a seriously twisty setup (i.e., a base library inside a hidden folder), but that would imply knowing what you were doing (which usually involved not letting Nickel see stuff), so, you wouldn't be here asking this question . So, the most obvious answer is simply: Nickel doesn't rescan for new content outside of in-nickel USBMS sessions. But, NickelMenu allows you to do that on-demand instead, so, do that .

06-06-2021, 10:53 AM	#3
jbenwell Member Posts: 20 Karma: 10 Join Date: Feb 2020 Device: Kobo Forma	Thanks very much. NickelMenu worked. I thought Nickel would do a content refresh on reboot, but it doesn't

06-06-2021, 01:28 PM	#4
NiLuJe BLAM! Posts: 13,506 Karma: 26047190 Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Paris, France Device: Kindle 2i, 3g, 4, 5w, PW, PW2, PW5; Kobo H2O, Forma, Elipsa, Sage, C2E	Yeah, that confused me too when first switching from a Kindle, where the framework does do it on startup .

06-06-2021, 03:43 PM	#5
jbenwell Member Posts: 20 Karma: 10 Join Date: Feb 2020 Device: Kobo Forma	I also added menu options to restart and shut down. It saves having to go into Koreader to do that I believe Nickel Menu persists across firmware updates. Is there a way to add a menu option / command to reinstall Koreader after such an update? It'd be nice to get it running again without a computer. Thanks!

06-06-2021, 05:03 PM	#6
NiLuJe BLAM! Posts: 13,506 Karma: 26047190 Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Paris, France Device: Kindle 2i, 3g, 4, 5w, PW, PW2, PW5; Kobo H2O, Forma, Elipsa, Sage, C2E	KOReader isn't affected by a Nickel update.

06-06-2021, 05:11 PM	#7
mzel Zealot Posts: 100 Karma: 10 Join Date: Apr 2016 Device: Kobo Forma	Actually I've hit the reverse situation where books visible to Nickel were not found by KOreader. Those books were brought over to my Kobo via Dropbox synchronization. That directory is deep rooted in the directory tree, and is hidden from Kobo. Is there a way to make KOreader see that location?

06-08-2021, 01:13 PM	#14
NiLuJe BLAM! Posts: 13,506 Karma: 26047190 Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Paris, France Device: Kindle 2i, 3g, 4, 5w, PW, PW2, PW5; Kobo H2O, Forma, Elipsa, Sage, C2E	@mzel: Yup (leading dot == hidden).

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