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Old 11-28-2020, 12:22 PM   #1
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Can't highlight over page borders

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I'm just getting frustrated about the highlighting experience on Kobo Libra H20 (4.25.x) and hope anyone can guide me to a better experience.

I can highlight at ease any sentence in a book while I do not go over page boundaries. The specific problems are:

1. invisible marks: whenever I mark a sentence up to the end of a page, the marked part is no longer highlighted as such. Still the pop-up menu confirms that the marking has been done. And the notebook does the same. But why can't I see it?
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2. can't mark into the next page: If a sentence to mark starts on one page and continuous to another I see no easy way to mark the whole sentence. If I start marking to a page end ... I'm used from kindle, that I hit the next page (still in marking mode) and can end wherever I wan't on the next page. But on Kobo? I see no way to reach the next page while marking. I'm just bound to stay on the actual page while marking. ... so the only work-around seems to play with font-size in order to have the whole sentence on one page ... but that's really inconvenient.

3. slow marking: the bookmark feedback in general is really slow and laggy. Did I load to much thirdparties that could cause performance issues?

Are any of these problem known? Is this the usual behaviour? Is anyone else able to mark over page ends? Any hints that could improve my reading experience? Can it be related to the bookformat (currently I'm sticking to epub files primarily) ?

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Old 11-28-2020, 07:39 PM   #2
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What you are doing has nothing to do with bookmarks. What you are doing is highlighting.

A bookmark is when you tap the upper right corner of the screen in the book and you get a bookmark shown. That is a bookmark.
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Old 11-28-2020, 08:05 PM   #3
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Originally Posted by lordeagle View Post
Hi

I'm just getting frustrated about the bookmark experience on Kobo Libra H20 (4.25.x) and hope anyone can guide me to a better experience.

I can bookmark at ease any sentence in a book while I do not go over page boundaries. The specific problems are:

1. invisible marks: whenever I mark a sentence up to the end of a page, the marked part is no longer highlighted as such. Still the pop-up menu confirms that the marking has been done. And the notebook does the same. But why can't I see it?
Because there is a bug. And, I think a known long-standing bug. It isn't obvious from your test case, but, I think think that is a paragraph that is continued from the previous page. If so, the is a long-standing bug when the the last word in a paragraph that continues from the previous page, and there is only one punctuation mark, is involved in a selection. If you try to select that word itself, whatever action would happen if you had tapped that word will happen. It will page backwards or forwards, or show the menu, depending on exactly where the word is on the page. And for an selection that ends on this word it won't display.

It is a bug. If you want it fixed, report it to Kobo and tell them how important it is to you. Personally, I don't think it is very important as I don't hit it that often, and can work around it easily enough. And while I would like to see it fixed, I can think of other things I'd prefer them to do.
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2. can't mark into the next page: If a sentence to mark starts on one page and continuous to another I see no easy way to mark the whole sentence. If I start marking to a page end ... I'm used from kindle, that I hit the next page (still in marking mode) and can end wherever I wan't on the next page. But on Kobo? I see no way to reach the next page while marking. I'm just bound to stay on the actual page while marking. ... so the only work-around seems to play with font-size in order to have the whole sentence on one page ... but that's really inconvenient.
Unfortunately, the epub reader does not support highlighting across the page boundary. The kepub reader does. And it doesn't suffer from the above bug.
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3. slow marking: the bookmark feedback in general is really slow and laggy. Did I load to much thirdparties that coud cause performance issues?
Again a known issue that has changed with firmware. The big improvements in epub highlighting happened last year. Again, the kepub reader is faster for this. Personally, I don't find the highlighting in ePubs to be to slow.
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Old 11-30-2020, 07:45 AM   #4
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Unfortunately, the epub reader does not support highlighting across the page boundary. The kepub reader does. And it doesn't suffer from the above bug.
That was definitively the information I was looking for. Kobo has seemingly better support for well known standards in comparison to amazon ...but in the end a conversion to 'kepub.epub' provides a much better reading experience. (similar to kindle and it's proprietary mobi/azw3 stuff)

Thanks a lot for the help. I've just installed the 'KoboTouchExtended' plugin on Calibre which provides the EPUB to KEPUB.EPUB conversion on the fly while sending to Kobo device.
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Now the highlighting support meets my expectations:
  • I can now highlight over page boundaries. Highlighting to Lower-Right corner will flip the page and I can continue my long highlight there.
  • Highlighting basically works faster and more responsive. Especially in larger books. In smaller books it seems equally fast with normal EPUBs.

Some other side effects were also fixed by this format change:
  • book covers are better rendered by default: all the thumbnail images of my book covers have now a good default size (before some were rendered way too small)
  • reading stats are available in the reader

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What you are doing has nothing to do with bookmarks. What you are doing is highlighting.
You are right, thanks for correcting. I've adjusted the initial question. I just ask my self why I always mix up these words in my head

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