Kindle kid to adult query

[Notagoodreader]

Hi all.

I bought my daughter a kindle years ago when she was young. I connected the kindle to my account and bought the books she needed.

Fast forwards a few years and she’s an adult now.

I’ve got her an updated kindle for Xmas. Should I just reconnect it to my account and let her download all her library or should she setup her own account now and start again.

I also bought myself a kindle for Xmas. First one. I see all of her library in my list which is a pain because I really don’t want recommendations for a teenage daughter and she won’t want my books showing in her library.

I guess I know the answer but it seems a shame for her to go it alone because she will lose all of the old books she’s got. She does like to re-read books. Whole Harry potter series 7 times over. No joke.

I guess there is no way for me to gift her the books I’ve bought on my Amazon account.

[fjtorres]

Originally Posted by Notagoodreader

Hi all.

I bought my daughter a kindle years ago when she was young. I connected the kindle to my account and bought the books she needed.

Fast forwards a few years and she’s an adult now.

I’ve got her an updated kindle for Xmas. Should I just reconnect it to my account and let her download all her library or should she setup her own account now and start again.

I also bought myself a kindle for Xmas. First one. I see all of her library in my list which is a pain because I really don’t want recommendations for a teenage daughter and she won’t want my books showing in her library.

I guess I know the answer but it seems a shame for her to go it alone because she will lose all of the old books she’s got. She does like to re-read books. Whole Harry potter series 7 times over. No joke.

I guess there is no way for me to gift her the books I’ve bought on my Amazon account.

Do you have her on your account formally, by setting your account as a Family Account?
If not, you can do it now and she can have her own account but remain linked to yours. And vice versa. She'll be able to keep her existing library and keep growing it on her own.

From 2014:

https://www.cnet.com/how-to/how-to-s...e...%20More%20

Make sure to read the comments and check to see if those old issues have been addressed.

From Amazon:

https://www.amazon.com/gp/help/custo...X2D6QN8PKQJAJ2

[Notagoodreader]

Hi there. Thank you for your reply.

I have just checked the links you sent and I do have my partner on the account already and it looks like I can’t add another adult to my account.

This probably means I have no choice but to tell my daughter to setup her kindle on her own account and start her library again.

[fjtorres]

Originally Posted by Notagoodreader

Hi there. Thank you for your reply.

I have just checked the links you sent and I do have my partner on the account already and it looks like I can’t add another adult to my account.

This probably means I have no choice but to tell my daughter to setup her kindle on her own account and start her library again.

Well, not necessarily...

First, you could see which ebooks are DRM-free, download them to a PC using the website management page. Then you can copy those over via USB. No muss no fuss.

For the rest, you could download them to the PC the same way and then remove the DRM before copying over.

How to do that isn't an allowable topic here but there are several threads discussing the needed TOOLS. A bit of online search will tell you where to get them and how to install them. It isn't hard.

If you still have her old reader registered to your account (even if dead) you should download the DRMed files as if meant for the older reader. It will give you a better chance of success.

[Notagoodreader]

Hi there.

Thank you for your reply. Certainly an option and it will give me something to do over the Xmas break.

All the best to you from cold and rainy England.

[haertig]

Your situation is the perfect example that illustrates why DRM is bad. You are the poster child for removing DRM. I would not hesitate a microsecond.

Google "apprentice alf" to get started. You will need Calibre (fantastic, and free, software). Everybody who has eBooks needs Calibre. But you don't want the latest version quite yet (due to incompatibility with Apprentice Alf's tools).

All the best to you from cold and rainy England.

All the best from warm and sunny Colorado, USA. OK, we're moving into winter and it snows here, so not always warm. But usually sunny, even in the winter!

[pdurrant]

I have no idea if Amazon will do anything for you, but it couldn't hurt to call up customer services and explain the situation.

[issybird]

Originally Posted by haertig

Your situation is the perfect example that illustrates why DRM is bad. You are the poster child for removing DRM. I would not hesitate a microsecond.

You may legitimately think DRM is bad, although that’s an opinion. I’m not sure why an assessment that DRM is bad results in the conclusion that one is entitled to strip DRM for the purpose of sharing books. Something got left out there in terms of why or why not it’s ok to share books bought for a now-adult child so they could have a personal copy. Moreover, it seems to me the “poster child” for removing DRM is someone who removes it for personal archiving or device shifting. Yours is rhetoric too far.

[haertig]

The OP is not trying to share their books with someone else. These were the daughter's books all along. The OP doesn't want them. Never did. They were always the daughters books. The only reason the daughter doesn't have them now is because they were bought on the parents account (for use by the daughter). When my kids were young, I did the same thing. There is no need to set up individual merchant accounts for young children. Everyone I know has a family account that they buy stuff for their young children with. Once the kids have grown up, then you might want to split things into individual accounts. Just like the OP does now.

It's like dividing up property in a divorce. Just because a husband bought his wife a nice dress in the past - on his credit card account - does not mean that the dress is tied to him in a divorce. The dress should go to the wife. If the dress were DRM'ed, the husband would end up with that in his possession, even though both parties agreed that it was never his, he didn't want it, and the wife did.

Yours is rhetoric too far.

Yours is judgement too far.

[issybird]

Originally Posted by haertig

The OP is not trying to share their books with someone else. These were the daughter's books all along. The OP doesn't want them. Never did. They were always the daughters books. The only reason the daughter doesn't have them now is because they were bought on the parents account (for use by the daughter). When my kids were young, I did the same thing. There is no need to set up individual merchant accounts for young children. Everyone I know has a family account that they buy stuff for their young children with. Once the kids have grown up, then you might want to split things into individual accounts. Just like the OP does now.

It's like dividing up property in a divorce. Just because a husband bought his wife a nice dress in the past - on his credit card account - does not mean that the dress is tied to him in a divorce. The dress should go to the wife. If the dress were DRM'ed, the husband would end up with that in his possession, even though both parties agreed that it was never his, he didn't want it, and the wife did.

Oh, good lord. First of all, if your disagreement is with licensing restrictions, then say so. Don’t dress is up in “DRM is bad” which is irrelevant. DRM is just an imperfect means to try to enforce licensing restrictions.

As for the books being for the daughter, they were bought on the parent’s account. Again, if your beef is with licensing and restricting books to the original purchaser, say so. The reality is that the books are tied to the parent. If you can’t live with that, buy paper. Or use some foresight upfront. No one here is allowed to decide some copyright violations are licit and then promote them and give instructions for achieving them. Think what you will and act accordingly, but refrain from sharing in this forum.

Finally, couldn’t you have come up with an analogy (which doesn’t apply, but I won’t even bother) that wasn’t such sexist drivel?

Yours is judgement too far.

That’s why they pay me the big bucks.

[Thasaidon]

Originally Posted by issybird

Finally, couldn’t you have come up with an analogy (which doesn’t apply, but I won’t even bother) that wasn’t such sexist drivel?

In what way was his analogy sexist drivel?

[DiapDealer]

In every way.

[Thasaidon]

Originally Posted by DiapDealer

In every way.

Thankyou for confirming Issybird and you were just playing the radical feminist card and cannot justify your position by reasoned argument.

[haertig]

Zzziiinnnggg!!! Incoming from left field we have "misogynistic" for the score!

I thought it was a good analogy myself. What, with discussion of a family-type account where some of the items are clearly owned by a member of the family who is not the purchaser ... and mentioning the credit card "account" to tie it in with an Amazon "account" and all. An illustrative analogy of the concept I was trying to present actually. But wasted on some.

[issybird]

Originally Posted by Thasaidon

Thankyou for confirming Issybird and you were just playing the radical feminist card and cannot justify your position by reasoned argument.

I’m trying to think of anything more sexist than assuming DiapDealer answers for me, but I can’t come up with it.