How can I remove unnecessary space

motsaw · 08-26-2020, 12:57 PM

Hello.
How can I remove unnecessary space between words during conversion? Maybe some calibre plugin can do it, or there's some option in calibre, that I can't find? Please look at the screenshot.

Please point me to the proper thread if this was resolved already.

hobnail · 08-26-2020, 01:02 PM

Can you provide the original file? Looks to me like there are incorrect p tags. What are you converting from? Converting to?

motsaw · 08-26-2020, 01:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hobnail

Can you provide the original file? Looks to me like there are incorrect p tags. What are you converting from? Converting to?

Of course, here:

I'm trying to convert from mobi to mobi (just to get it better formated), but have some epub files with this bug as well.

hobnail · 08-26-2020, 01:29 PM

That may still be under copyright so you should probably delete your link. Maybe someone here who knows more can explain what's going on without seeing the file.

motsaw · 08-26-2020, 01:32 PM

Ok, can I send you a PM?
I can't edit my previus post anymore, but the file is deleted from the hosting.

gbm · 08-26-2020, 01:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by motsaw

Hello.
How can I remove unnecessary space between words during conversion? Maybe some calibre plugin can do it, or there's some option in calibre, that I can't find? Please look at the screenshot.

Please point me to the proper thread if this was resolved already.

Convert to epub or azw then open using the editor and use this regex to find and join the split paragraphs:
Edit:
Search

Code:

</p>\s*<p[^>]+>([a-z0-9])

Replace

Code:

\1

bernie

hobnail · 08-26-2020, 01:53 PM

Probably better to wait for someone who knows more about this than I do to respond.

retiredbiker · 08-26-2020, 09:03 PM

These are the kind of wrapped lines you typically get from a pdf conversion, and are probably in the original file. It is caused by each line being coded as its own paragraph.

Try converting to epub with heuristic processing turned on in the conversion options. This will probably fix a lot of it, but as the name implies, it guesses at where to unwrap. So it will almost certainly make some mistakes. Once you have the epub version, you can open it in the editor and fix the remainder using search and replace like gbm suggested. Then convert to a Kindle format.

motsaw · 08-27-2020, 01:30 AM

Ok, I'll try. Thanks for help.

JSWolf · 08-27-2020, 10:28 AM

Are these conversions from PDF? If so, don't bother.

theducks · 08-27-2020, 11:19 AM

PDF conversions are the worst to start from. They (the content) can appear random because it is a 'paste up' format.
Put 'a' there.
Put 'g' there.
put 'b' here.
The RESULTS is the PDF page you see. It looks perfect (because it was what was wanted in the end)

Jon is a little harsh. Try, then see if it looks fixable (all the pieces are in the proper ORDER), or a basket case

(what you showed, seems fixable)

Then clean up using the Editor (I found doing multiple conversions with different settings, took more time than doing edits using saved 'join' searches. I have 4 or 5, I tweak (to match the code I see) and use, rather than do a 'catch all' pass. This also tends to let me run into other issues, since I look at a lot of the final pages

JSWolf · 08-27-2020, 11:44 AM

I'm not being harsh. I'm being honest. If this is not something that has to be converted, then I would not bother. It's not worth the hassle. And unless you A/B compare everything, you most likely have errors no matter how you try to clean it up.

For example, in the sample posted of the conversion, How do you know if the two sentences go together to form one paragraph or not? You can tell the sentence fragments go together, but you cannot automate knowing if the two sentences go together.

theducks · 08-27-2020, 01:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JSWolf

For example, in the sample posted of the conversion, How do you know if the two sentences go together to form one paragraph or not? You can tell the sentence fragments go together, but you cannot automate knowing if the two sentences go together.

(and that would fail on any automated combine)
But it would be closer to pleasing the eye than what they have now.

Been a long time since I have seen an error free (at least that I did not detect) book.
Spell check is only ONE check. (I have no issue with the other versions of en_XX spelling). Wrong (Gimme a BRAKE

)

JSWolf · 08-27-2020, 04:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by theducks

(and that would fail on any automated combine)
But it would be closer to pleasing the eye than what they have now.

But the thing is, you would need to compare the PDF to the ePub and while doing that you would have to read the PDF. So just reaf the PDF anyway and forget converting.

Been a long time since I have seen an error free (at least that I did not detect) book.
Spell check is only ONE check. (I have no issue with the other versions of en_XX spelling). Wrong (Gimme a BRAKE

)[/QUOTE]

I've seen a fair number of eBooks that I did not find a text error. I'm not saying there werenone.Just that I did not notiice if there was.

08-26-2020, 12:57 PM	#1
motsaw Junior Member Posts: 5 Karma: 10 Join Date: Aug 2020 Device: Kindle	How can I remove unnecessary space Hello. How can I remove unnecessary space between words during conversion? Maybe some calibre plugin can do it, or there's some option in calibre, that I can't find? Please look at the screenshot. Please point me to the proper thread if this was resolved already.

08-27-2020, 11:44 AM	#12
JSWolf Resident Curmudgeon Posts: 79,752 Karma: 145864619 Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Roslindale, Massachusetts Device: Kobo Libra 2, Kobo Aura H2O, PRS-650, PRS-T1, nook STR, PW3	I'm not being harsh. I'm being honest. If this is not something that has to be converted, then I would not bother. It's not worth the hassle. And unless you A/B compare everything, you most likely have errors no matter how you try to clean it up. For example, in the sample posted of the conversion, How do you know if the two sentences go together to form one paragraph or not? You can tell the sentence fragments go together, but you cannot automate knowing if the two sentences go together. Last edited by JSWolf; 08-27-2020 at 11:48 AM.

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08-26-2020, 01:02 PM	#2
hobnail Running with scissors Posts: 1,587 Karma: 14328510 Join Date: Nov 2019 Device: none	Can you provide the original file? Looks to me like there are incorrect p tags. What are you converting from? Converting to?

08-26-2020, 01:29 PM	#4
hobnail Running with scissors Posts: 1,587 Karma: 14328510 Join Date: Nov 2019 Device: none	That may still be under copyright so you should probably delete your link. Maybe someone here who knows more can explain what's going on without seeing the file.

08-26-2020, 01:32 PM	#5
motsaw Junior Member Posts: 5 Karma: 10 Join Date: Aug 2020 Device: Kindle	Ok, can I send you a PM? I can't edit my previus post anymore, but the file is deleted from the hosting.

08-26-2020, 01:53 PM	#7
hobnail Running with scissors Posts: 1,587 Karma: 14328510 Join Date: Nov 2019 Device: none	Probably better to wait for someone who knows more about this than I do to respond.

08-26-2020, 09:03 PM	#8
retiredbiker Evangelist Posts: 450 Karma: 3886916 Join Date: May 2013 Location: Ontario, Canada Device: Kindle KB, Oasis, Pop_Os!, Kobo Forma	These are the kind of wrapped lines you typically get from a pdf conversion, and are probably in the original file. It is caused by each line being coded as its own paragraph. Try converting to epub with heuristic processing turned on in the conversion options. This will probably fix a lot of it, but as the name implies, it guesses at where to unwrap. So it will almost certainly make some mistakes. Once you have the epub version, you can open it in the editor and fix the remainder using search and replace like gbm suggested. Then convert to a Kindle format.

08-27-2020, 01:30 AM	#9
motsaw Junior Member Posts: 5 Karma: 10 Join Date: Aug 2020 Device: Kindle	Ok, I'll try. Thanks for help.

08-27-2020, 10:28 AM	#10
JSWolf Resident Curmudgeon Posts: 79,752 Karma: 145864619 Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Roslindale, Massachusetts Device: Kobo Libra 2, Kobo Aura H2O, PRS-650, PRS-T1, nook STR, PW3	Are these conversions from PDF? If so, don't bother.

08-27-2020, 11:19 AM	#11
theducks Well trained by Cats Posts: 31,055 Karma: 60358908 Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: The Central Coast of California Device: Kobo Libra2,Kobo Aura2v1, K4NT(Fixed: New Bat.), Galaxy Tab A	PDF conversions are the worst to start from. They (the content) can appear random because it is a 'paste up' format. Put 'a' there. Put 'g' there. put 'b' here. The RESULTS is the PDF page you see. It looks perfect (because it was what was wanted in the end) Jon is a little harsh. Try, then see if it looks fixable (all the pieces are in the proper ORDER), or a basket case (what you showed, seems fixable) Then clean up using the Editor (I found doing multiple conversions with different settings, took more time than doing edits using saved 'join' searches. I have 4 or 5, I tweak (to match the code I see) and use, rather than do a 'catch all' pass. This also tends to let me run into other issues, since I look at a lot of the final pages

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