Indentation issue in french dialogs

joss · 09-06-2020, 10:47 AM

I am sure to have seen this problem already submitted here but I can't find
it again, unfortunately.

For books that I convert from epub to kepub either via KoboTouchExtended 3.2.15 or kepubify 3.1.4 , some lines in dialogues are not left aligned after the leading hyphen i.e. I have an extra space ( kobo fw 4.15.12920 or 4.17 )
I have tried with an English book and it is correctly converted.
This problem occurs only in french dialogues since we use the '-' hyphen char
to indent the lines, not the double quotes like in English .

At first, I thought it was for the last line of the dialogue or sentences longer
than 3 lines, but now I have samples where it is for 2 lines long sentences
in the middle of the dialog ,
e.g :

- comment allez-vous ?
- bien, merci. Et vous ?
- moi aussi.
^^ 2 spaces ( or so ) instead of one after the -

Same problem whatever font is used, even default editor font, and whatever the source of the original epub.

I am not even sure it is related with hyphenation since the *same* leading word will be sometimes correctly justified in the *same* dialogue.

The only mode that clears this problem is to be in completely "disable justification" mode ( middle icon in kobo menu )
which is not good at all, since no lines are *right* justified ( dialogues or 'normal' lines ) .

I also tried in a last attempt to load the french hyphenation dictionnary of JS Wolf , to no avail.

Thanks
Joss

davidfor · 09-07-2020, 07:23 AM

This has been discussed a few times in the Kobo forum (where this should have been posted). Basically, it doesn't work properly for languages that use something other than quotation marks. There have been a few things tried, some seemed to work better than others, but, I don't think anything was perfect. You can look in the Kobo forum for the details.

BetterRed · 09-07-2020, 05:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by davidfor

This has been discussed a few times in the Kobo forum (where this should have been posted).
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Then I'd better move it there

BR

joss · 10-02-2020, 05:56 AM

Thank you for your answer.
I finally found this previous thread ( KEPUB and non-breaking space )
https://www.mobileread.com/forums/sh...ghlight=dialog
This seems very complex and subtle. I thought there was an easy solution or patch.
I think I will have to live with this issue.

DNSB · 10-02-2020, 12:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by joss

I think I will have to live with this issue.

At times, it comes down to making a choice between spending your time reading with a minor annoyance or spending your time fixing the ebook when you could be reading.

09-06-2020, 10:47 AM	#1
joss Member Posts: 20 Karma: 10 Join Date: Jul 2018 Location: Paris suburb Device: Kobo Aura	Indentation issue in french dialogs I am sure to have seen this problem already submitted here but I can't find it again, unfortunately. For books that I convert from epub to kepub either via KoboTouchExtended 3.2.15 or kepubify 3.1.4 , some lines in dialogues are not left aligned after the leading hyphen i.e. I have an extra space ( kobo fw 4.15.12920 or 4.17 ) I have tried with an English book and it is correctly converted. This problem occurs only in french dialogues since we use the '-' hyphen char to indent the lines, not the double quotes like in English . At first, I thought it was for the last line of the dialogue or sentences longer than 3 lines, but now I have samples where it is for 2 lines long sentences in the middle of the dialog , e.g : - comment allez-vous ? - bien, merci. Et vous ? - moi aussi. ^^ 2 spaces ( or so ) instead of one after the - Same problem whatever font is used, even default editor font, and whatever the source of the original epub. I am not even sure it is related with hyphenation since the same leading word will be sometimes correctly justified in the same dialogue. The only mode that clears this problem is to be in completely "disable justification" mode ( middle icon in kobo menu ) which is not good at all, since no lines are right justified ( dialogues or 'normal' lines ) . I also tried in a last attempt to load the french hyphenation dictionnary of JS Wolf , to no avail. Thanks Joss

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09-07-2020, 07:23 AM	#2
davidfor Grand Sorcerer Posts: 24,905 Karma: 47303824 Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Sydney, Australia Device: Kobo:Touch,Glo, AuraH2O, GloHD,AuraONE, ClaraHD, Libra H2O; tolinoepos	This has been discussed a few times in the Kobo forum (where this should have been posted). Basically, it doesn't work properly for languages that use something other than quotation marks. There have been a few things tried, some seemed to work better than others, but, I don't think anything was perfect. You can look in the Kobo forum for the details.

10-02-2020, 05:56 AM	#4
joss Member Posts: 20 Karma: 10 Join Date: Jul 2018 Location: Paris suburb Device: Kobo Aura	Thank you for your answer. I finally found this previous thread ( KEPUB and non-breaking space ) https://www.mobileread.com/forums/sh...ghlight=dialog This seems very complex and subtle. I thought there was an easy solution or patch. I think I will have to live with this issue.

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