Sigil 0.9.18 problem

PapaKilo · 10-26-2019, 05:34 PM

When I try to use 'Metadata Editor' or 'Generate Table of Contents' Sigil Locks up. I have to use Task Manager to end the task.

How do I fix the problem?

Running Win 10.0.18362 on Dell Inspiron 11-3147

Apparently Sigil is opening a child window which does not become visible or on top.

DiapDealer · 10-26-2019, 05:55 PM

Installed from official Sigil release installers?

https://github.com/Sigil-Ebook/Sigil/releases

BetterRed · 10-26-2019, 06:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PapaKilo

When I try to use 'Metadata Editor' or 'Generate Table of Contents' Sigil Locks up. I have to use Task Manager to end the task.

How do I fix the problem?

Running Win 10.0.18362 on Dell Inspiron 11-3147

Apparently Sigil is opening a child window which does not become visible or on top.

Do you have a 2nd monitor that's turned off?

Try pressing Ctrl+space, if a control menu, pops press 'M' and then use the arrow keys to move the ME/GT window into view.

Else, close Sigil, copy the sigil.ini file somewhere safe, then remove the relevant window geometry settings with a text editor.

@KH, DD - suggestion, move all the window geometry settings into a separate ini/json file that can nuked with impunity when this sort of thing happens.

BR

DiapDealer · 10-26-2019, 06:09 PM

I'm not keen to overhaul the SettingStore code just save the multi-monitor crowd a minute here or there. Especially when they're already used to fussing with things a bit.

Turtle91 · 10-26-2019, 06:27 PM

Well....as part of the multi-monitor crowd....

Sigil worked fine on multi-monitor until the switch to the new system. I haven't complained because I figured it was something that was being worked on...or on the list to be worked...or something. Plus, y'all are volunteers - I wouldn't complain anyway.

It isn't a minor thing to lose the undocking capability...or at least, it isn't minor when you forget to close an undocked window and close Sigil first. The next time you try and start Sigil, it's frozen and you have to go through the whole changing the number of monitors you have back to 1 - starting Sigil and getting the window settings back to what it accepts - then going back in to windows settings and putting all the multi-monitor stuff back together. Definitely more than a couple minutes.

Since I've done that more times than I can count, I finally gave up and don't undock windows. So, to me, Sigil is a single monitor only program until that gets addressed.

DiapDealer · 10-26-2019, 06:29 PM

Buy me a second monitor and I'll work on it.

But seriously: how can we address this unless we KNOW there's a serious issue with how the latest Sigil handles a multi-monitor setup compared with how previous versions did? This is the first I'm hearing of a huge difference between the versions. What sigil version did this start with?

Turtle91 · 10-26-2019, 06:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DiapDealer

Buy me a second monitor and I'll work on it.

Unlock the "Donate" button???

PapaKilo · 10-26-2019, 06:44 PM

No multi-monitor, using a laptop.

Okay, it appears to be a geometry issue, I can fix that.

Thanks.

BetterRed · 10-26-2019, 06:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DiapDealer

I'm not keen to overhaul the SettingStore code just save the multi-monitor crowd a minute here or there. Especially when they're already used to fussing with things a bit.

On Windows, child windows can go off screen or hide behind their parent window on single monitor rigs.

If segregating window geometry isn't a solution, how about a Reset Window Geometry button.

BR

BetterRed · 10-26-2019, 06:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DiapDealer

Buy me a second monitor and I'll work on it.

I would gladly send the barely used 19" monitor that's sitting in the cupboard if I knew where.

BR

BetterRed · 10-26-2019, 07:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BetterRed

I would gladly send the barely used 19" monitor that's sitting in the cupboard if I knew where.

BR

Catch 22- you'd need to run it off a 240v 50Hz power supply, not that puny 110v volt rubbish

BR

DiapDealer · 10-26-2019, 07:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BetterRed

Catch 22- you'd need to run it off a 240v 50Hz power supply, not that puny 110v volt rubbish

BR

That could be an issue!

BetterRed · 10-26-2019, 07:37 PM

why don't you put a monitor in an amazon wish list and post the link - I am sure you'd have a 2nd monitor pretty damn quick - seriously.

BR

theducks · 10-26-2019, 09:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DiapDealer

Buy me a second monitor and I'll work on it.

But seriously: how can we address this unless we KNOW there's a serious issue with how the latest Sigil handles a multi-monitor setup compared with how previous versions did? This is the first I'm hearing of a huge difference between the versions. What sigil version did this start with?

How could you live with out more than 1 Monitor

I used to do 'Desktop moves' (relocate the user and the hardware). I would say the 75% had 2 Monitors (or #2 was attached to their Laptop: Also way more prevalent than 5 years ago) We are talking many hundred moves.

I run 3 (was 4, but AMD video driver won't enable, so I no longer use the second port on the main video card) Monitors replaced all those reference guides I had spread on my desk, 20 years ago.

theducks · 10-26-2019, 09:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BetterRed

Catch 22- you'd need to run it off a 240v 50Hz power supply, not that puny 110v volt rubbish

BR

Are you sure it is not poly-voltage? 100-250V
I can't remember ANY LCD caring if 50/60Hz. (some CRT's had Iron core transformers. Yo can run 50Hz stuff on 60Hz, but not the other way. 50Hz xfmrs needed more iron )

10-26-2019, 05:34 PM	#1
PapaKilo Connoisseur Posts: 80 Karma: 10 Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: Florida USA Device: Android, kindle	Sigil 0.9.18 problem When I try to use 'Metadata Editor' or 'Generate Table of Contents' Sigil Locks up. I have to use Task Manager to end the task. How do I fix the problem? Running Win 10.0.18362 on Dell Inspiron 11-3147 Apparently Sigil is opening a child window which does not become visible or on top.

10-26-2019, 06:09 PM	#4
DiapDealer Grand Sorcerer Posts: 28,548 Karma: 204127028 Join Date: Jan 2010 Device: Nexus 7, Kindle Fire HD	I'm not keen to overhaul the SettingStore code just save the multi-monitor crowd a minute here or there. Especially when they're already used to fussing with things a bit. Last edited by DiapDealer; 10-26-2019 at 06:11 PM.

10-26-2019, 06:29 PM	#6
DiapDealer Grand Sorcerer Posts: 28,548 Karma: 204127028 Join Date: Jan 2010 Device: Nexus 7, Kindle Fire HD	Buy me a second monitor and I'll work on it. But seriously: how can we address this unless we KNOW there's a serious issue with how the latest Sigil handles a multi-monitor setup compared with how previous versions did? This is the first I'm hearing of a huge difference between the versions. What sigil version did this start with? Last edited by DiapDealer; 10-26-2019 at 06:36 PM.

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DiapDealer Grand Sorcerer Posts: 28,548 Karma: 204127028 Join Date: Jan 2010 Device: Nexus 7, Kindle Fire HD	Installed from official Sigil release installers? https://github.com/Sigil-Ebook/Sigil/releases

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Turtle91 A Hairy Wizard Posts: 3,346 Karma: 20171571 Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: Charleston, SC today Device: iPhone 15/11/X/6/iPad 1,2,Air & Air Pro/Surface Pro/Kindle PW & Fire	Well....as part of the multi-monitor crowd.... Sigil worked fine on multi-monitor until the switch to the new system. I haven't complained because I figured it was something that was being worked on...or on the list to be worked...or something. Plus, y'all are volunteers - I wouldn't complain anyway. It isn't a minor thing to lose the undocking capability...or at least, it isn't minor when you forget to close an undocked window and close Sigil first. The next time you try and start Sigil, it's frozen and you have to go through the whole changing the number of monitors you have back to 1 - starting Sigil and getting the window settings back to what it accepts - then going back in to windows settings and putting all the multi-monitor stuff back together. Definitely more than a couple minutes. Since I've done that more times than I can count, I finally gave up and don't undock windows. So, to me, Sigil is a single monitor only program until that gets addressed.

10-26-2019, 06:44 PM	#8
PapaKilo Connoisseur Posts: 80 Karma: 10 Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: Florida USA Device: Android, kindle	No multi-monitor, using a laptop. Okay, it appears to be a geometry issue, I can fix that. Thanks.

10-26-2019, 07:37 PM	#13
BetterRed null operator (he/him) Posts: 21,706 Karma: 29711016 Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Sydney Australia Device: none	why don't you put a monitor in an amazon wish list and post the link - I am sure you'd have a 2nd monitor pretty damn quick - seriously. BR

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