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Old 10-28-2019, 04:22 PM   #1
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EPub open in Sigil, split document, bullet list questions

Ok I completed an indd, exported to reflowable epub. When I view in Epub reader looks great, but most importantly there is a set of numbered bullets that go all the way thru the book ( starts at 1 ends at 202) The book is 175 pages.



Now, I need to have the epub always have the chapter title start on a new page so I opened the exported epub in a reflowable format using Sigil then used Split At Cursor at the start of each title page BUT it creates a separate html page and the result is the bullet lists start at number ONE on each page as they do not continue. I looked in the css and I do n nort see where I can start the numbers at a different spot.



Then I exported another file from IND and opened the Reflowable options and tried using the split document checkbox and selecting the split occur at the style for my chapter titles. Worked except the same problem bullets start at one on each chapter title page. Is the a way around this ( I would think there would have to be)



I need the bullets thruout the book to resume correctly on each page.
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Old 10-28-2019, 04:43 PM   #2
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use:
<ol start="50">
<li>...</li>
<li>...</li>
<li>...</li>
</ol>

at the beginning of each numbered list where 50 is the starting number.

Be advised, I think there are still some devices/apps that don't honor the "start" number. If you want the widest acceptability it is better to include the number manually:

<ul>
<li>24. yadda</li>
<li>25. yadda</li>
<li>26. yadda</li>
</ul>

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Old 10-28-2019, 04:56 PM   #3
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There's still a LOT of devices/apps that won't honor it, I believe.

Unless the list is something that needs to constantly edited and updated, I've never really found ordered lists that useful. Getting them to behave how you want is often more trouble than they were worth in my opinion. Hardcode your numbered/lettered lists and be done with them I'd usually say. But an entire book that's one long list?? You have my sympathies. No way I'd deal with something like that.
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Old 10-28-2019, 05:03 PM   #4
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Yep I see what you mean , thx R
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Old 10-28-2019, 09:28 PM   #5
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Hardcode your numbered/lettered lists and be done with them I'd usually say.
Yep, that's the only way to reliably do it.

Also not well supported with <ol>:
  • start (anything that starts beyond 1.)
  • type Alternate numbering schemes (like roman numerals, greek letters, [...])

Also definitely not supported is all the fancy CSS3 numbering.

Using those is bound to break on many older devices.

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But an entire book that's one long list?? You have my sympathies. No way I'd deal with something like that.
Exactly. Only reliable way to do it is hardcoding.

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If your book is small enough, you could get away with not splitting the html file and using the CSS to ensure a page break with certain headers.

CSS has properties such as page-break-before and page-break after, in particular you can find the syntax for the former here:
https://www.w3schools.com/cssref/pr_print_pagebb.asp

Obviously this can only work if your code is not so large that it would crash a reader, unfortunately I can't tell what your 175 page count translates to in terms of html size.

On a side note, I have a couple of documents that are one large numbered list. The problem with hardcoding the numbers is that formatting the text to have a uniform indent is a pain. Especially if you have some 1300+ items. OL does all that for you. (Thankfully, my 1300+ items were very short, a couple of lines each on average, so having a single html file was not an issue)
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