I cannot see the collections. Why ?

mol39 · 10-21-2019, 12:07 PM

In Calibre, when I click on 'device' , I can see all the titles currently on my Kindle. The columns are: Title, Author, Date, Size, Collections.
But I see no collections !
I have created several collections on the device, and it would be a great help if they were visible to Calibre, but they are not.
Why has Calibre made such a column if it doesn't work ?
I have tried it with my old button-kindle and with my Paperwhite with the same sorry result.

Cheers
Morten Levy, Denmark

theducks · 10-21-2019, 12:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mol39

In Calibre, when I click on 'device' , I can see all the titles currently on my Kindle. The columns are: Title, Author, Date, Size, Collections.
But I see no collections !
I have created several collections on the device, and it would be a great help if they were visible to Calibre, but they are not.
Why has Calibre made such a column if it doesn't work ?
I have tried it with my old button-kindle and with my Paperwhite with the same sorry result.

Cheers
Morten Levy, Denmark

It is a mostly a left over from its original usage.
Kobo Utilities make still makes use of this, but many other devices do not allow the (Devices) collection data to be accessed.

NiLuJe · 10-21-2019, 12:19 PM

As @theducks said, collection information isn't available to Calibre on current (and even not so current) eInk Kindles. That's how the eInk Kindles work, nothing Calibre can do about it on its own.

The Kindle Collections plugin attempts to deal with that, but it *requires* a jailbroken device, and a more complex workflow with other on-device tools to make the Collections visible to the plugin (not the Device view, though, you can pretty much forget about that on a Kindle).

JSWolf · 10-21-2019, 02:41 PM

@mol39, Way back when when the Kindle first came out, the firmware was a lot more open and Calibre could manage collections on the Kindle. But because too many people were mucking about and doing stupid stuff and then calling Amazon for help, Amazon made the firmware less open. The current firmware is so closed that it cannot be jailbroken.

If you want Calibre to manage collections, you'll need to get a different brand Reader.

10-21-2019, 12:07 PM	#1
mol39 Junior Member Posts: 4 Karma: 10 Join Date: Jun 2017 Device: Kindle	I cannot see the collections. Why ? In Calibre, when I click on 'device' , I can see all the titles currently on my Kindle. The columns are: Title, Author, Date, Size, Collections. But I see no collections ! I have created several collections on the device, and it would be a great help if they were visible to Calibre, but they are not. Why has Calibre made such a column if it doesn't work ? I have tried it with my old button-kindle and with my Paperwhite with the same sorry result. Cheers Morten Levy, Denmark

10-21-2019, 12:19 PM	#3
NiLuJe BLAM! Posts: 13,506 Karma: 26047202 Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Paris, France Device: Kindle 2i, 3g, 4, 5w, PW, PW2, PW5; Kobo H2O, Forma, Elipsa, Sage, C2E	As @theducks said, collection information isn't available to Calibre on current (and even not so current) eInk Kindles. That's how the eInk Kindles work, nothing Calibre can do about it on its own. The Kindle Collections plugin attempts to deal with that, but it requires a jailbroken device, and a more complex workflow with other on-device tools to make the Collections visible to the plugin (not the Device view, though, you can pretty much forget about that on a Kindle). Last edited by NiLuJe; 10-21-2019 at 03:11 PM.

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JSWolf Resident Curmudgeon Posts: 79,745 Karma: 145864619 Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Roslindale, Massachusetts Device: Kobo Libra 2, Kobo Aura H2O, PRS-650, PRS-T1, nook STR, PW3	@mol39, Way back when when the Kindle first came out, the firmware was a lot more open and Calibre could manage collections on the Kindle. But because too many people were mucking about and doing stupid stuff and then calling Amazon for help, Amazon made the firmware less open. The current firmware is so closed that it cannot be jailbroken. If you want Calibre to manage collections, you'll need to get a different brand Reader.

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