A few sideloaded books keep coming to the top of library

Paperbackstash · 04-22-2019, 12:07 AM

I have a weird issue. I have a decent sized kindle library with plenty of sideloaded books. When I turn on the Wi-Fi, and Amazon updates any new purchased or rented books, after these books the device bumps a particular group of sideloaded books to the first and second page of my e-reader library, saying they are "new". The same thing happens when I haven't purchased a new book, these books are again pushed to the front and say "new". They are older books and I'm not planning to read them anytime soon, so it keeps messing up the order of the newer books I'm acquiring. Anyone have any ideas about it? These books haven't been updated at all, so not sure why my kindle keeps recycling them as "new" everytime Wi-Fi gets turned on.

Barbara1955 · 04-22-2019, 01:57 AM

Do you do collections? Put them into collections...

Paperbackstash · 04-22-2019, 09:24 AM

Thanks for responding, but I don't only view by Collections, so I'm afraid this wouldn't solve this particular problem for me.

Strether · 04-22-2019, 09:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Paperbackstash

I have a weird issue. I have a decent sized kindle library with plenty of sideloaded books. When I turn on the Wi-Fi, and Amazon updates any new purchased or rented books, after these books the device bumps a particular group of sideloaded books to the first and second page of my e-reader library, saying they are "new". The same thing happens when I haven't purchased a new book, these books are again pushed to the front and say "new". They are older books and I'm not planning to read them anytime soon, so it keeps messing up the order of the newer books I'm acquiring. Anyone have any ideas about it? These books haven't been updated at all, so not sure why my kindle keeps recycling them as "new" everytime Wi-Fi gets turned on.

I had the same issue once, and resolved it by converting those books to epub and from epub to epub again and then converting them to AZW3. You might try one to see if that works. It was something that Kovid suggested.

Jim

Paperbackstash · 04-22-2019, 09:45 AM

Hm. I will try that and see if it fixes the issue, Jim, thanks.

dordale · 04-23-2019, 03:36 AM

This is only a guess...is the date set right on your Kindle? If the date is wrong, maybe it the Kindle is seeing the sideloaded books as the latest books that were sent over to your Kindle based on their datestamp.

HarryT · 04-23-2019, 05:00 AM

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Originally Posted by dordale

This is only a guess...is the date set right on your Kindle? If the date is wrong, maybe it the Kindle is seeing the sideloaded books as the latest books that were sent over to your Kindle based on their datestamp.

Agreed. To set the date, simply enable WiFi and allow the Kindle to connect to Amazon's servers.

tomsem · 04-23-2019, 08:31 PM

Right, there is no way to set the system date directly in Settings, only time of day.

It should not be necessary to register to get the date to reset, as I believe secure connection needed for registration requires the dates to match up as a prerequisite.

For example, when my (sadly neglected) Kindle 1’s battery drains it forgets the time and date, but just having it connect to cellular network fixes that even though it can no longer connect to Amazon for some reason (I’m guessing the contract was not renewed).

ilovejedd · 04-23-2019, 11:18 PM

In the search bar:

Code:

;st YYYY-MM-DD HH:SS

24-hr clock, use UTC time then adjust for time zone via Settings - Device Options - Device Time.

Paperbackstash · 04-24-2019, 08:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dordale

This is only a guess...is the date set right on your Kindle? If the date is wrong, maybe it the Kindle is seeing the sideloaded books as the latest books that were sent over to your Kindle based on their datestamp.

The date is fine, I'll double check but think I would have noticed by now. It's odd its only the same books, so I'm wondering if there's something about them in particular that is confusing it with date. Not sure how or why, but...

I don't believe these were the last books sideloaded, but it's been awhile so that may be a possibility. I haven't had a chance to mess with this further at home yet since making this thread, will mess with it a bit tonight if I have a chance.

j.p.s · 04-24-2019, 10:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Paperbackstash

The date is fine, I'll double check but think I would have noticed by now. It's odd its only the same books, so I'm wondering if there's something about them in particular that is confusing it with date. Not sure how or why, but...

I don't believe these were the last books sideloaded, but it's been awhile so that may be a possibility. I haven't had a chance to mess with this further at home yet since making this thread, will mess with it a bit tonight if I have a chance.

Was the date correct on the computer that you copied them from?

If you connect the kindle to a computer, do those files show a date in the future?

Paperbackstash · 04-24-2019, 03:55 PM

The date on my computer is correct. Other sideloaded books (from the same computer) are not doing this.

I will double check on the second thing you are asking when I get home -- if I can figure out how. I don't understand how/why they would be showing a future date in the files or where. I used Calibre to sideload books.

HarryT · 04-24-2019, 04:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Paperbackstash

The date on my computer is correct. Other sideloaded books (from the same computer) are not doing this.

I will double check on the second thing you are asking when I get home -- if I can figure out how. I don't understand how/why they would be showing a future date in the files or where. I used Calibre to sideload books.

It’s a way of checking whether or not your Kindle’s clock is set correctly.

Just use Windows Explorer to browse the Kindle’s drive and look at the date and time of one of the books which is misbehaving.

Paperbackstash · 04-24-2019, 08:59 PM

A new development happened. I used my bluetooth for the first time today for an audiobook (I rarely listen to them, first time with the PW4). I have not connected to Wi-Fi today, but apparently connecting to the bluetooth bumped the books up again.

Trying to check the times now on the device and books, hopefully that fixes it.

Paperbackstash · 04-24-2019, 09:04 PM

When I hooked the Paperwhite to the computer, the sideloaded books disappeared from the top when I disconnected again.

I checked one of the books that is a problem, and the date is okay - 11/8/2018, but there is something odd with the author's first initial (has a _ ) for the author folder in the kindle device. Will try changing that and see if that fixes it.

04-22-2019, 12:07 AM	#1
Paperbackstash Wizard Posts: 1,656 Karma: 20102554 Join Date: Aug 2018 Location: Central Florida Device: Oasis 3, PW 3 & 5, Fire HD 8 & 10	A few sideloaded books keep coming to the top of library I have a weird issue. I have a decent sized kindle library with plenty of sideloaded books. When I turn on the Wi-Fi, and Amazon updates any new purchased or rented books, after these books the device bumps a particular group of sideloaded books to the first and second page of my e-reader library, saying they are "new". The same thing happens when I haven't purchased a new book, these books are again pushed to the front and say "new". They are older books and I'm not planning to read them anytime soon, so it keeps messing up the order of the newer books I'm acquiring. Anyone have any ideas about it? These books haven't been updated at all, so not sure why my kindle keeps recycling them as "new" everytime Wi-Fi gets turned on.

04-23-2019, 11:18 PM	#9
ilovejedd hopeless n00b Posts: 5,110 Karma: 19597086 Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: in the middle of nowhere Device: PW4, PW3, Libra H2O, iPad 10.5, iPad 11, iPad 12.9	In the search bar: Code: ;st YYYY-MM-DD HH:SS 24-hr clock, use UTC time then adjust for time zone via Settings - Device Options - Device Time.

04-24-2019, 08:59 PM	#14
Paperbackstash Wizard Posts: 1,656 Karma: 20102554 Join Date: Aug 2018 Location: Central Florida Device: Oasis 3, PW 3 & 5, Fire HD 8 & 10	A new development happened. I used my bluetooth for the first time today for an audiobook (I rarely listen to them, first time with the PW4). I have not connected to Wi-Fi today, but apparently connecting to the bluetooth bumped the books up again. Trying to check the times now on the device and books, hopefully that fixes it. Last edited by Paperbackstash; 04-24-2019 at 09:02 PM.

04-24-2019, 09:04 PM	#15
Paperbackstash Wizard Posts: 1,656 Karma: 20102554 Join Date: Aug 2018 Location: Central Florida Device: Oasis 3, PW 3 & 5, Fire HD 8 & 10	When I hooked the Paperwhite to the computer, the sideloaded books disappeared from the top when I disconnected again. I checked one of the books that is a problem, and the date is okay - 11/8/2018, but there is something odd with the author's first initial (has a _ ) for the author folder in the kindle device. Will try changing that and see if that fixes it. Last edited by Paperbackstash; 04-24-2019 at 09:44 PM.

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Barbara1955 Non-Techy Posts: 4,455 Karma: 15499273 Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: WV---USA Device: Samsung Cell Phone & Amazon Fires & Kobo eReaders	Do you do collections? Put them into collections...

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Paperbackstash Wizard Posts: 1,656 Karma: 20102554 Join Date: Aug 2018 Location: Central Florida Device: Oasis 3, PW 3 & 5, Fire HD 8 & 10	Thanks for responding, but I don't only view by Collections, so I'm afraid this wouldn't solve this particular problem for me.

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Paperbackstash Wizard Posts: 1,656 Karma: 20102554 Join Date: Aug 2018 Location: Central Florida Device: Oasis 3, PW 3 & 5, Fire HD 8 & 10	Hm. I will try that and see if it fixes the issue, Jim, thanks.

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dordale Wizard Posts: 1,731 Karma: 3472866 Join Date: Apr 2008 Device: Sony PRS-650 & 350; Kindle Voyage; Kobo Aura HD, Aura One, and Forma	This is only a guess...is the date set right on your Kindle? If the date is wrong, maybe it the Kindle is seeing the sideloaded books as the latest books that were sent over to your Kindle based on their datestamp.

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tomsem Grand Sorcerer Posts: 6,939 Karma: 27060151 Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: USA Device: iPhone 15PM, Kindle Scribe, iPad mini 6, PocketBook InkPad Color 3	Right, there is no way to set the system date directly in Settings, only time of day. It should not be necessary to register to get the date to reset, as I believe secure connection needed for registration requires the dates to match up as a prerequisite. For example, when my (sadly neglected) Kindle 1’s battery drains it forgets the time and date, but just having it connect to cellular network fixes that even though it can no longer connect to Amazon for some reason (I’m guessing the contract was not renewed).

04-24-2019, 03:55 PM	#12
Paperbackstash Wizard Posts: 1,656 Karma: 20102554 Join Date: Aug 2018 Location: Central Florida Device: Oasis 3, PW 3 & 5, Fire HD 8 & 10	The date on my computer is correct. Other sideloaded books (from the same computer) are not doing this. I will double check on the second thing you are asking when I get home -- if I can figure out how. I don't understand how/why they would be showing a future date in the files or where. I used Calibre to sideload books.

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