Register Guidelines E-Books Today's Posts Search

Go Back   MobileRead Forums > E-Book Readers > Kobo Reader

Notices

Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Old 03-31-2018, 11:06 PM   #1
jedix
Junior Member
jedix began at the beginning.
 
Posts: 9
Karma: 10
Join Date: Dec 2008
Device: prs-505, Kobo H2O v1
The littlest Kobo (aura h2o v1) and the mysterious hotspot

TL;DR, unblock/allow www.msftncsi.com

Recently I had updated my Kobo to gain a working download option in the web browser..which is key with calibre and the media share server. Upon updating, the browser started to work for downloading and everything was wonderful. Then I went on vacation.

When I came back, my Kobo would not use my WiFi. It would connect but would tell me it was a "hot spot" and pull up an empty login screen. If I cancelled, it would disconnect. If I pressed the X it would disconnect.
I rebooted several times then finally, reluctantly I tried the factory reset. which made matters worse. Because you have to use a pc or WiFi to set the damn thing up and I run Linux, I was now in a situation where I couldn't use the Kobo at all.

I finally tethered to my phone over the LTE connection which got me back up and running, but WiFi was stilled hosed! The Mac address was also wrong when WiFi wasn't connected - it showed a mac address from the wrong vendor. I got the right Mac address by connecting and leaving the empty login screen and checking my wifi routers active list, then got the IP from the dhcpd.leases file and tracked down what it was doing.

It checks for a valid network connection by using a msft URL (www.msftncsi.com) which is used by windows for checking network connectivity. My local DNS is a pi-hole to block ads which was recently updated and started to block the Microsoft URL.

It is sad to see such a poor design choice made to detect if a network connection is valid. The least it could do is check a URL under the control of the device manufacture. A better approach would be to allow a method to force using the WiFi connection even if the device believes it is a Hot Spot.
jedix is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-01-2018, 12:08 AM   #2
davidfor
Grand Sorcerer
davidfor ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.davidfor ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.davidfor ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.davidfor ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.davidfor ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.davidfor ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.davidfor ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.davidfor ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.davidfor ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.davidfor ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.davidfor ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.
 
Posts: 24,905
Karma: 47303824
Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: Sydney, Australia
Device: Kobo:Touch,Glo, AuraH2O, GloHD,AuraONE, ClaraHD, Libra H2O; tolinoepos
What firmware version were you using before the update? The Kobo firmware has been using that www.msftncsi.com as part of the check for connectivity for several years. Before that, it used an Apple url. The change to www.msftncsi.com was at a time that Kobo added support for using hot spots.

As to what URL to use, there would be an argument for using a Kobo owned URL and server, but people would argue about what would happen if Kobo went under. Using this MS site makes a reasonable amount of sense as it is being used for the same purpose by at least one other operating system. And the resources (servers, bandwidth, etc) backing it make it unlikely that it will be unavailable.

And if your adblocking system has recently decided to block this URL, I would suggest you change to another. Deciding to block this this domain or URL as a source for ads would make me question if the people running the system knew what they were doing.
davidfor is offline   Reply With Quote
Advert
Old 04-02-2018, 02:24 PM   #3
jedix
Junior Member
jedix began at the beginning.
 
Posts: 9
Karma: 10
Join Date: Dec 2008
Device: prs-505, Kobo H2O v1
I was using the firmware that fixed the browser download issue - which I believe is from December 2017. This was most likely caused by an update to the host files on my ad blocker. As stated, I use a pi-hole for ad blocking. It pulls a bunch of restricted host files and the failure of the windows connectivity is stated on the FAQ:

https://github.com/pi-hole/pi-hole/wiki/FAQs

Since I don't have a windows machine, I've never had the issue and Kobo doesn't mention it's reaching out to other peoples sites. This ad blocker does what a lot of ad blockers do and use host files to deny certain domains. It only takes one source to add that URL to cause the failure, so I think it's unfair to blame them.

I decided to write up my story since I couldn't find an answer to what was going on myself and I had to debug the issue after following the recommended steps by Kobo, including a factory reset... Hopefully others find my post helpful and perhaps a little entertaining.

The software doesn't set the right hardware address in the device information when the Microsoft URL is unreachable, which complicates debugging any connectivity issue. I would consider using someone else's URL fine, if it was stated somewhere in the debug steps that this was happening. The hardware address being incorrectly reported has to be considered a poor decision or bug.

Last edited by jedix; 04-02-2018 at 02:28 PM. Reason: Trying to convey a nicer tone
jedix is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply


Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Kobo Aura H2O 2nd Edition vs old Kobo Aura H2O screen dimentions. iXPert12 Kobo Reader 1 09-18-2017 09:35 AM
Upgrade to Kobo Aura One from Kobo Aura H2O? Amiieey Kobo Reader 19 07-27-2017 06:33 PM
Kobo aura h2o display on aura hd? gezzer Kobo Developer's Corner 3 02-22-2017 10:32 AM
Buy Kobo Aura and/or Aura H2O kobayashi Flea Market 4 02-04-2015 11:03 PM
Replacing Nook Simple Touch: Onyx T68 vs Kobo Aura vs Kobo Aura H2O iNovelReader Which one should I buy? 0 10-28-2014 01:40 AM


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 01:42 PM.


MobileRead.com is a privately owned, operated and funded community.