Aura change page numbers kepub

daniel1591 · 05-28-2018, 02:26 AM

good morning, I have a kobo aura one. I read ' kepub" .Problem is that the total number of the pages of the book remains fixed by changing the size of characters.
During reading, the numbers of page once change on two. Is there a patch to correct?

davidfor · 05-28-2018, 02:34 AM

No, that is how it works. For kepubs, there are two settings for page numbering. One is "Current chapter" which displays the number of pages in the current chapter. With this, the page count changes as the font size and other settings are changed and is basically the number of screens of text for the chapter.

The other page numbering is "Entire book". With this, a fixed page count is calculate based on some algorithm and the characters or words or something else in the book. The page numbering does not depend on the font size or other settings. And it is not per screen. That means that depending on the size of the font you use, you might see more than one page per screen (very small font) or the page might spread over multiple screen (larger fonts). This method is similar to the page numbering used for epubs, but I doesn't seem to use exactly the same algorithm.

daniel1591 · 05-28-2018, 05:03 AM

is this problem related to kobo reading software?
I tested koreader and the pagination is correct ..
However, I deleted koreader because this program is less friendly and it is poorly translated into French. Therefore, it is difficult to parameterize it.

davidfor · 05-28-2018, 06:36 AM

Sorry, this is not a bug. This is how it works. For kepubs, Kobo has always had the per-chapter page count that counted a screen as a page and changed if the font size was changed. Some time ago, they added the full book page count, which is fixed for the book and works in a very similar way to the epub page count (which is the same for all Adobe RMSDK based ereaders and apps). And I assume they added that option because their customers asked for it.

daniel1591 · 05-28-2018, 06:39 AM

thank you for answering me
Regards,

daniel1591 · 05-30-2018, 04:28 AM

hello, I restart this discussion because the answer does not seem to be satisfactory.
Indeed, why is it not possible for a developer to create a patch that would obtain a correct pagination in relation to the size of the characters?
Pagination by chapter does not interest me. I want to know the number of pages remaining to read on the whole ebook (epub or kepub).
Knowing that mobi files are very badly managed, I only load kepub with template.
Why an alternative reader like koreader handles this question well whereas niquel can not do it? This is the only negative point of the latter.
Koreader is less friendly and the translation is incomplete which explains why I do not keep it

translation of this text with google. excuse me for the inconsistencies in the message

davidfor · 05-30-2018, 07:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by daniel1591

hello, I restart this discussion because the answer does not seem to be satisfactory.
Indeed, why is it not possible for a developer to create a patch that would obtain a correct pagination in relation to the size of the characters?

PAtching to replace a character or two in different places works. Or to skip a bit of code. But, what you want is completely new function that somehow has to be added to the executables and called. It might be possible, but it is probably an order or two of magnitude more difficult.

Quote:

Pagination by chapter does not interest me. I want to know the number of pages remaining to read on the whole ebook (epub or kepub).
Knowing that mobi files are very badly managed, I only load kepub with template.
Why an alternative reader like koreader handles this question well whereas niquel can not do it? This is the only negative point of the latter.
Koreader is less friendly and the translation is incomplete which explains why I do not keep it

As I stated, this is a design decision. Kobo decided to do it this way. Koreader decided to do it a different way. Which is correct is up for debate. And if you want the debate, go to the general discussion forum and make your statement: "The only correct page numbering system is counting screens for the whole book." I won't be joining in because I have no idea what the correct page numbering system is, but I do know what works for me. But, I will be watching the fun with

If you think that the way Kobo is doing it is wrong, tell Kobo. They do actually listen and do make changes. But, whether they agree with you is another matter completely. The alternative is to use Koreader. If it works the way you want it to work, then why not use it?

daniel1591 · 05-30-2018, 07:40 AM

OK, if you take it that way, do not talk about it anymore!

davidfor · 05-30-2018, 09:55 AM

My apologies if stating the situation offends you. But, every bit of software out there is based on a series of design decisions. For better or worse, someone decides how the application works.

The comment about the posting your statement elsewhere here was supposed to be joking, but is true. There are various topics that when raised here will get a reaction. This is one of them, though probably one of the milder ones.

Barbara1955 · 05-30-2018, 09:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by daniel1591

OK, if you take it that way, do not talk about it anymore!

People here Own Kobo ereaders they are NOT the Developers. No more than you are...

JSWolf · 05-30-2018, 02:49 PM

If you think the page numbering can be changed with a patch, feel free to create the patch to do so.

Personally, I prefer a fixed page number like RMSDK (ADE) and Access (kepub) do it. For the chapter page numbering, I prefer the way kepub does it by the number of screens.

05-28-2018, 02:26 AM	#1
daniel1591 Member Posts: 15 Karma: 10 Join Date: May 2018 Location: nancy-france Device: kobo aura one	change page numbers kepub good morning, I have a kobo aura one. I read ' kepub" .Problem is that the total number of the pages of the book remains fixed by changing the size of characters. During reading, the numbers of page once change on two. Is there a patch to correct?

05-30-2018, 04:28 AM	#6
daniel1591 Member Posts: 15 Karma: 10 Join Date: May 2018 Location: nancy-france Device: kobo aura one	hello, I restart this discussion because the answer does not seem to be satisfactory. Indeed, why is it not possible for a developer to create a patch that would obtain a correct pagination in relation to the size of the characters? Pagination by chapter does not interest me. I want to know the number of pages remaining to read on the whole ebook (epub or kepub). Knowing that mobi files are very badly managed, I only load kepub with template. Why an alternative reader like koreader handles this question well whereas niquel can not do it? This is the only negative point of the latter. Koreader is less friendly and the translation is incomplete which explains why I do not keep it translation of this text with google. excuse me for the inconsistencies in the message Last edited by daniel1591; 05-30-2018 at 04:31 AM.

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05-28-2018, 02:34 AM	#2
davidfor Grand Sorcerer Posts: 24,905 Karma: 47303824 Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Sydney, Australia Device: Kobo:Touch,Glo, AuraH2O, GloHD,AuraONE, ClaraHD, Libra H2O; tolinoepos	No, that is how it works. For kepubs, there are two settings for page numbering. One is "Current chapter" which displays the number of pages in the current chapter. With this, the page count changes as the font size and other settings are changed and is basically the number of screens of text for the chapter. The other page numbering is "Entire book". With this, a fixed page count is calculate based on some algorithm and the characters or words or something else in the book. The page numbering does not depend on the font size or other settings. And it is not per screen. That means that depending on the size of the font you use, you might see more than one page per screen (very small font) or the page might spread over multiple screen (larger fonts). This method is similar to the page numbering used for epubs, but I doesn't seem to use exactly the same algorithm.

05-28-2018, 05:03 AM	#3
daniel1591 Member Posts: 15 Karma: 10 Join Date: May 2018 Location: nancy-france Device: kobo aura one	is this problem related to kobo reading software? I tested koreader and the pagination is correct .. However, I deleted koreader because this program is less friendly and it is poorly translated into French. Therefore, it is difficult to parameterize it.

05-28-2018, 06:36 AM	#4
davidfor Grand Sorcerer Posts: 24,905 Karma: 47303824 Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Sydney, Australia Device: Kobo:Touch,Glo, AuraH2O, GloHD,AuraONE, ClaraHD, Libra H2O; tolinoepos	Sorry, this is not a bug. This is how it works. For kepubs, Kobo has always had the per-chapter page count that counted a screen as a page and changed if the font size was changed. Some time ago, they added the full book page count, which is fixed for the book and works in a very similar way to the epub page count (which is the same for all Adobe RMSDK based ereaders and apps). And I assume they added that option because their customers asked for it.

05-28-2018, 06:39 AM	#5
daniel1591 Member Posts: 15 Karma: 10 Join Date: May 2018 Location: nancy-france Device: kobo aura one	thank you for answering me Regards,

05-30-2018, 07:40 AM	#8
daniel1591 Member Posts: 15 Karma: 10 Join Date: May 2018 Location: nancy-france Device: kobo aura one	OK, if you take it that way, do not talk about it anymore!

05-30-2018, 09:55 AM	#9
davidfor Grand Sorcerer Posts: 24,905 Karma: 47303824 Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Sydney, Australia Device: Kobo:Touch,Glo, AuraH2O, GloHD,AuraONE, ClaraHD, Libra H2O; tolinoepos	My apologies if stating the situation offends you. But, every bit of software out there is based on a series of design decisions. For better or worse, someone decides how the application works. The comment about the posting your statement elsewhere here was supposed to be joking, but is true. There are various topics that when raised here will get a reaction. This is one of them, though probably one of the milder ones.

05-30-2018, 02:49 PM	#11
JSWolf Resident Curmudgeon Posts: 79,756 Karma: 145864619 Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Roslindale, Massachusetts Device: Kobo Libra 2, Kobo Aura H2O, PRS-650, PRS-T1, nook STR, PW3	If you think the page numbering can be changed with a patch, feel free to create the patch to do so. Personally, I prefer a fixed page number like RMSDK (ADE) and Access (kepub) do it. For the chapter page numbering, I prefer the way kepub does it by the number of screens.

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