Do you save your router password to Amazon?

344a · 10-19-2016, 11:43 AM

Hi guys.

Do you guys give your router password to Amazon? I really don't want to. And I don't see why should I. But if I don't, every time when I connect to the wifi, I have to re-enter the password again, which is a long combination.

How do you guys work around this? Or you just don't turn the wifi off?

I am now turn the device to airplane mode so the wifi is off and hopefully save some battery power.

HarryT · 10-19-2016, 11:50 AM

Leaving the device in airplane mode will approximately double the battery life. Personally, I side-load all my content and leave WiFi turned off. The main reason to have it switched on is if you read on more than one device and want to sync the reading position between them.

344a · 10-19-2016, 11:54 AM

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Originally Posted by HarryT

Leaving the device in airplane mode will approximately double the battery life. Personally, I side-load all my content and leave WiFi turned off. The main reason to have it switched on is if you read on more than one device and want to sync the reading position between them.

Oh... is it true?! Then I should turn it off.

Thanks.

Sirtel · 10-19-2016, 12:26 PM

I also keep the wifi turned off most of the time. But I'm not paranoid about my password and have saved it on my Kindles. I've used Kindles for 5 years and have never had any security problems.

NullNix · 10-19-2016, 03:27 PM

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Originally Posted by 344a

Hi guys.

Do you guys give your router password to Amazon? I really don't want to. And I don't see why should I. But if I don't, every time when I connect to the wifi, I have to re-enter the password again, which is a long combination.

Saving your wifi password on your Kindle is not equivalent to giving it to Amazon. If you turn that checkbox off, the Kindle will still remember the wifi passwords of every router it talks to: it just won't sync it up to Amazon so that all your other Kindles will automatically know the password.

I, too, find this a dubious gain for a huge security loss, and it's totally useless for the wifi router you normally connect to Amazon through (since it needs your wifi router password to connect to Amazon at all), so I turn the checkbox off, but I've only had to teach each Kindle the wifi password once.

dwig · 10-19-2016, 07:23 PM

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Originally Posted by 344a

Hi guys.

Do you guys give your router password to Amazon? ...

The "password", the access code, that you enter into the Kindle is for the WiFi Access Point component of your router-AP-switch combo device. If it is setup properly, the WiFi access code is different than the actual router component's password. Even if your Kindle sync'd this access code with Amazon, it can't be used to access your router from the internet. They would have to be within WiFi radio range (50-150 feet) in order to access your local network.

If you are really concerned, simply setup a "white list" on your router. List all of the MAC addresses for all of your devices (phones, computers, ereaders, toasters, ...) that connect to the router. Once enabled, "alien" devices can't access your WiFi even if they have your access code. They would have to be very sly and know how to spoof the MAC address of one of your devices.

tomsem · 10-20-2016, 12:24 AM

I let it save password to cloud, though so far it really hasn't helped much (I had to replace router and do it all over again with new password).

And unless I'm overdue with a library book, or complying with airline guidelines, I leave WiFi on all of the time. I switch devices a lot and want to maximize chance that reading position will get synced, and make frequent use of features that require internet connection (wikipedia, translate, store etc.).

344a · 10-20-2016, 10:07 PM

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Originally Posted by dwig

The "password", the access code, that you enter into the Kindle is for the WiFi Access Point component of your router-AP-switch combo device. If it is setup properly, the WiFi access code is different than the actual router component's password. Even if your Kindle sync'd this access code with Amazon, it can't be used to access your router from the internet. They would have to be within WiFi radio range (50-150 feet) in order to access your local network.

If you are really concerned, simply setup a "white list" on your router. List all of the MAC addresses for all of your devices (phones, computers, ereaders, toasters, ...) that connect to the router. Once enabled, "alien" devices can't access your WiFi even if they have your access code. They would have to be very sly and know how to spoof the MAC address of one of your devices.

Why don't they just let users to save the password in the reader like every other devices do? I simply wanna have a good reading experience. Why bother?

344a · 10-20-2016, 10:09 PM

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Originally Posted by NullNix

Saving your wifi password on your Kindle is not equivalent to giving it to Amazon. If you turn that checkbox off, the Kindle will still remember the wifi passwords of every router it talks to: it just won't sync it up to Amazon so that all your other Kindles will automatically know the password.

I, too, find this a dubious gain for a huge security loss, and it's totally useless for the wifi router you normally connect to Amazon through (since it needs your wifi router password to connect to Amazon at all), so I turn the checkbox off, but I've only had to teach each Kindle the wifi password once.

Yahoo is one of the good examples not to trust them.

HarryT · 10-21-2016, 02:28 AM

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Originally Posted by 344a

Why don't they just let users to save the password in the reader like every other devices do?

I'm puzzled by your question. The Kindle does remember WiFi passwords automatically.

344a · 10-21-2016, 02:40 AM

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Originally Posted by HarryT

I'm puzzled by you r question. The Kindle does remember WiFi passwords automatically.

Mine doesn't save it. I need to reenter password in the box every time if I want to connect to internet. Do I miss some setting to enable auto-save function?

mlewis78 · 10-21-2016, 04:18 AM

It's like any other wi-fi device that remembers once it has been there. The only place I know of where I have to keep putting a password in is at my job.

344a · 10-21-2016, 04:39 AM

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Originally Posted by mlewis78

It's like any other wi-fi device that remembers once it has been there. The only place I know of where I have to keep putting a password in is at my job.

Mine doesn't save it at all. I have entered the password 5~6 times since I received my voyage. That is why I complaining. I didn't realize I am the only one.

JSWolf · 10-21-2016, 04:40 AM

Oh yes, Amazon wants your WiFi password so Amazon can use your WiFi if their net ever goes down.

344a · 10-21-2016, 04:52 AM

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Originally Posted by JSWolf

Oh yes, Amazon wants your WiFi password so Amazon can use your WiFi if their net ever goes down.

The businessmen don't do anything without profit.

10-19-2016, 11:43 AM	#1
344a Groupie Posts: 188 Karma: 505964 Join Date: Feb 2016 Location: Hong Kong Device: Hong Kong is done.	Do you save your router password to Amazon? Hi guys. Do you guys give your router password to Amazon? I really don't want to. And I don't see why should I. But if I don't, every time when I connect to the wifi, I have to re-enter the password again, which is a long combination. How do you guys work around this? Or you just don't turn the wifi off? I am now turn the device to airplane mode so the wifi is off and hopefully save some battery power.

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10-19-2016, 11:50 AM	#2
HarryT eBook Enthusiast Posts: 85,544 Karma: 93383099 Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: UK Device: Kindle Oasis 2, iPad Pro 10.5", iPhone 6	Leaving the device in airplane mode will approximately double the battery life. Personally, I side-load all my content and leave WiFi turned off. The main reason to have it switched on is if you read on more than one device and want to sync the reading position between them.

10-19-2016, 12:26 PM	#4
Sirtel Grand Sorcerer Posts: 13,375 Karma: 238915017 Join Date: Jan 2014 Location: Estonia Device: Kobo Sage & Libra 2	I also keep the wifi turned off most of the time. But I'm not paranoid about my password and have saved it on my Kindles. I've used Kindles for 5 years and have never had any security problems.

10-20-2016, 12:24 AM	#7
tomsem Grand Sorcerer Posts: 6,914 Karma: 27013865 Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: USA Device: iPhone 15PM, Kindle Scribe, iPad mini 6, PocketBook InkPad Color 3	I let it save password to cloud, though so far it really hasn't helped much (I had to replace router and do it all over again with new password). And unless I'm overdue with a library book, or complying with airline guidelines, I leave WiFi on all of the time. I switch devices a lot and want to maximize chance that reading position will get synced, and make frequent use of features that require internet connection (wikipedia, translate, store etc.).

10-21-2016, 04:18 AM	#12
mlewis78 Guru Posts: 904 Karma: 6449772 Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: New York City Device: Kindle Oasis 2 (7"); HDX 8.9"; Ipad2	It's like any other wi-fi device that remembers once it has been there. The only place I know of where I have to keep putting a password in is at my job.

10-21-2016, 04:40 AM	#14
JSWolf Resident Curmudgeon Posts: 79,505 Karma: 145863177 Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Roslindale, Massachusetts Device: Kobo Libra 2, Kobo Aura H2O, PRS-650, PRS-T1, nook STR, PW3	Oh yes, Amazon wants your WiFi password so Amazon can use your WiFi if their net ever goes down.

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