Register Guidelines E-Books Today's Posts Search

Go Back   MobileRead Forums > E-Book Readers > Amazon Kindle > Kindle Developer's Corner

Notices

Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Old 06-14-2017, 04:54 PM   #1
Aaronius
Junior Member
Aaronius began at the beginning.
 
Posts: 4
Karma: 10
Join Date: Jun 2017
Device: Kindle Keyboard Wifi
Is there anything like cydia for kindle?

I recently jailbroke my kindle and I mostly like it so far but I don't like having to get my computer whenever I want to install something. I was wondering if there was a store for the programs that not only puts it all in one place, but also lets me install them without my computer.

If there isn't, I will give a crack at making it because I don't think it would be that hard. All it needs to do is list the programs, download the packages and install them.
Aaronius is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-14-2017, 05:18 PM   #2
knc1
Going Viral
knc1 ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.knc1 ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.knc1 ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.knc1 ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.knc1 ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.knc1 ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.knc1 ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.knc1 ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.knc1 ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.knc1 ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.knc1 ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.
 
knc1's Avatar
 
Posts: 17,212
Karma: 18210809
Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: Central Texas
Device: No K1, PW2, KV, KOA
Quote:
Originally Posted by Aaronius View Post
I recently jailbroke my kindle and I mostly like it so far but I don't like having to get my computer whenever I want to install something. I was wondering if there was a store for the programs that not only puts it all in one place, but also lets me install them without my computer.

If there isn't, I will give a crack at making it because I don't think it would be that hard. All it needs to do is list the programs, download the packages and install them.
You don't need your computer to individually install packages.

MrPI is a batch mode installer.
Put everything you want installed in /mrpackages, at the same time, and trigger MrPI once.

= = = =

The only true protection a Kindle user has from harmful or malicious packages is the fact that a human (the owner) must be involved in installing each package.

The "central distribution point" is already a single place, this forum.

How do you plan to get the human to read the directions for each package to be installed?
The directions are packed with each package and included in the distribution post.
We can't force anyone to RTFM -
But we certainly do not want to encourage people to skip reading the directions by over automation.

And who is going to be in charge of keeping the pool of packages current?

Who is going to provide and maintain the hosting?

Who is going to pay for it?

Yourself?

That is a lot of trust and responsibility to put in one person.

Why would we want someone who has only made a single post on the site, has been a member for less than a day and uses nothing newer than a K3 to be that trustee?
knc1 is offline   Reply With Quote
Advert
Old 06-14-2017, 05:34 PM   #3
Aaronius
Junior Member
Aaronius began at the beginning.
 
Posts: 4
Karma: 10
Join Date: Jun 2017
Device: Kindle Keyboard Wifi
Quote:
Originally Posted by knc1 View Post
You don't need your computer to individually install packages.

MrPI is a batch mode installer.
Put everything you want installed in /mrpackages, at the same time, and trigger MrPI once.

= = = =

The only true protection a Kindle user has from harmful or malicious packages is the fact that a human (the owner) must be involved in installing each package.

The "central distribution point" is already a single place, this forum.

How do you plan to get the human to read the directions for each package to be installed?
The directions are packed with each package and included in the distribution post.
We can't force anyone to RTFM -
But we certainly do not want to encourage people to skip reading the directions by over automation.

And who is going to be in charge of keeping the pool of packages current?

Who is going to provide and maintain the hosting?

Who is going to pay for it?

Yourself?

That is a lot of trust and responsibility to put in one person.

Why would we want someone who has only made a single post on the site, has been a member for less than a day and uses nothing newer than a K3 to be that trustee?
I guess that makes sense.

I was just wondering if existed. It would be easy to make, yes but as you said, it's better that they read the directions.
Aaronius is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-14-2017, 05:46 PM   #4
Aaronius
Junior Member
Aaronius began at the beginning.
 
Posts: 4
Karma: 10
Join Date: Jun 2017
Device: Kindle Keyboard Wifi
Quote:
Originally Posted by knc1 View Post
You don't need your computer to individually install packages.

MrPI is a batch mode installer.
Put everything you want installed in /mrpackages, at the same time, and trigger MrPI once.

= = = =

The only true protection a Kindle user has from harmful or malicious packages is the fact that a human (the owner) must be involved in installing each package.

The "central distribution point" is already a single place, this forum.

How do you plan to get the human to read the directions for each package to be installed?
The directions are packed with each package and included in the distribution post.
We can't force anyone to RTFM -
But we certainly do not want to encourage people to skip reading the directions by over automation.

And who is going to be in charge of keeping the pool of packages current?

Who is going to provide and maintain the hosting?

Who is going to pay for it?

Yourself?

That is a lot of trust and responsibility to put in one person.

Why would we want someone who has only made a single post on the site, has been a member for less than a day and uses nothing newer than a K3 to be that trustee?
Not to mention getting permission from the developers to avoid a DCMA takedown.

Last edited by Aaronius; 06-14-2017 at 05:54 PM. Reason: Grammatical Error
Aaronius is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-14-2017, 07:33 PM   #5
knc1
Going Viral
knc1 ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.knc1 ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.knc1 ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.knc1 ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.knc1 ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.knc1 ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.knc1 ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.knc1 ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.knc1 ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.knc1 ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.knc1 ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.
 
knc1's Avatar
 
Posts: 17,212
Karma: 18210809
Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: Central Texas
Device: No K1, PW2, KV, KOA
Quote:
Originally Posted by Aaronius View Post
Not to mention getting permission from the developers to avoid a DCMA takedown.
Rewritten like a forum newbie.

Everything on this site is "Open Source", all sources are published (usually in a public repository) and are licensed for re-use.
Not everyone uses the same license, but they all qualify as "Open Source" licenses.

Not a site rule or forum guideline, just by mutual assent of the contributors.
The Amazon/Lab126 firmware is the only closed source that we deal with, they provide more than enough.
knc1 is offline   Reply With Quote
Advert
Old 06-15-2017, 11:58 AM   #6
Aaronius
Junior Member
Aaronius began at the beginning.
 
Posts: 4
Karma: 10
Join Date: Jun 2017
Device: Kindle Keyboard Wifi
Quote:
Originally Posted by knc1 View Post
Rewritten like a forum newbie.

Everything on this site is "Open Source", all sources are published (usually in a public repository) and are licensed for re-use.
Not everyone uses the same license, but they all qualify as "Open Source" licenses.

Not a site rule or forum guideline, just by mutual assent of the contributors.
The Amazon/Lab126 firmware is the only closed source that we deal with, they provide more than enough.
Didn't know that. Now that I think about it, everything I have used from this forum was open source. Didn't really stop to think about it.

Also, thanks for letting me know.
Aaronius is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-17-2017, 06:19 AM   #7
baalajimaestro
Expecto Patronum!
baalajimaestro ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.baalajimaestro ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.baalajimaestro ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.baalajimaestro ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.baalajimaestro ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.baalajimaestro ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.baalajimaestro ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.baalajimaestro ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.baalajimaestro ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.baalajimaestro ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.baalajimaestro ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.
 
baalajimaestro's Avatar
 
Posts: 137
Karma: 342260
Join Date: May 2017
Location: Chennai, India
Device: Kindle PW2(9017) 4GB, FW 5.7.4
@aaronius: I would really encourage you to go ahead and create a KUAL addon which downloads and puts-in all *.bin hacks from our MR to /mnt/us/mrpackages folder and then trigger MrPI to install them!
baalajimaestro is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-17-2017, 08:16 AM   #8
knc1
Going Viral
knc1 ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.knc1 ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.knc1 ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.knc1 ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.knc1 ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.knc1 ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.knc1 ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.knc1 ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.knc1 ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.knc1 ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.knc1 ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.
 
knc1's Avatar
 
Posts: 17,212
Karma: 18210809
Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: Central Texas
Device: No K1, PW2, KV, KOA
Quote:
Originally Posted by baalajimaestro View Post
@aaronius: I would really encourage you to go ahead and create a KUAL addon which downloads and puts-in all *.bin hacks from our MR to /mnt/us/mrpackages folder and then trigger MrPI to install them!
Not practical.

Such packages are released by attachment to the first post of their release thread.
When updated, the attachment link URL changes, breaking your downloader.

The few packages that are not released by attachment to the first post of their release thread, also have a new URL for each new release.
That leaves your downloader fetching the out-of-date package rather than the newly updated one.
knc1 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-17-2017, 09:00 AM   #9
baalajimaestro
Expecto Patronum!
baalajimaestro ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.baalajimaestro ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.baalajimaestro ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.baalajimaestro ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.baalajimaestro ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.baalajimaestro ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.baalajimaestro ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.baalajimaestro ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.baalajimaestro ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.baalajimaestro ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.baalajimaestro ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.
 
baalajimaestro's Avatar
 
Posts: 137
Karma: 342260
Join Date: May 2017
Location: Chennai, India
Device: Kindle PW2(9017) 4GB, FW 5.7.4
Quote:
Originally Posted by knc1 View Post
Not practical.

Such packages are released by attachment to the first post of their release thread.
When updated, the attachment link URL changes, breaking your downloader.

The few packages that are not released by attachment to the first post of their release thread, also have a new URL for each new release.
That leaves your downloader fetching the out-of-date package rather than the newly updated one.
Seems like then this 'Cyndia for Kindle' needs a revamped MobileRead or dedicated site itself!
baalajimaestro is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-17-2017, 09:04 AM   #10
knc1
Going Viral
knc1 ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.knc1 ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.knc1 ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.knc1 ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.knc1 ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.knc1 ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.knc1 ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.knc1 ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.knc1 ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.knc1 ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.knc1 ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.
 
knc1's Avatar
 
Posts: 17,212
Karma: 18210809
Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: Central Texas
Device: No K1, PW2, KV, KOA
Quote:
Originally Posted by baalajimaestro View Post
Seems like then this 'Cyndia for Kindle' needs a revamped MobileRead or dedicated site itself!
Been there, tried that.
You want to maintain it (and pay for it)?
I can transfer the site (currently inactive) to your server.
knc1 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-17-2017, 09:09 AM   #11
baalajimaestro
Expecto Patronum!
baalajimaestro ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.baalajimaestro ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.baalajimaestro ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.baalajimaestro ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.baalajimaestro ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.baalajimaestro ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.baalajimaestro ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.baalajimaestro ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.baalajimaestro ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.baalajimaestro ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.baalajimaestro ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.
 
baalajimaestro's Avatar
 
Posts: 137
Karma: 342260
Join Date: May 2017
Location: Chennai, India
Device: Kindle PW2(9017) 4GB, FW 5.7.4
A free-hosted site is what I would try. Hosters like 000webhost.com offer that

Last edited by baalajimaestro; 06-17-2017 at 09:12 AM.
baalajimaestro is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-17-2017, 09:35 AM   #12
knc1
Going Viral
knc1 ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.knc1 ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.knc1 ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.knc1 ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.knc1 ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.knc1 ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.knc1 ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.knc1 ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.knc1 ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.knc1 ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.knc1 ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.
 
knc1's Avatar
 
Posts: 17,212
Karma: 18210809
Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: Central Texas
Device: No K1, PW2, KV, KOA
Quote:
Originally Posted by baalajimaestro View Post
A free-hosted site is what I would try. Hosters like 000webhost.com offer that
You will find that an interesting experience:
https://www.troyhunt.com/breaches-tr...ext-passwords/

Just goes to show that you get what you pay for.
knc1 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-17-2017, 09:56 AM   #13
baalajimaestro
Expecto Patronum!
baalajimaestro ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.baalajimaestro ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.baalajimaestro ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.baalajimaestro ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.baalajimaestro ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.baalajimaestro ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.baalajimaestro ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.baalajimaestro ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.baalajimaestro ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.baalajimaestro ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.baalajimaestro ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.
 
baalajimaestro's Avatar
 
Posts: 137
Karma: 342260
Join Date: May 2017
Location: Chennai, India
Device: Kindle PW2(9017) 4GB, FW 5.7.4
Quote:
Originally Posted by knc1 View Post
You will find that an interesting experience:
https://www.troyhunt.com/breaches-tr...ext-passwords/

Just goes to show that you get what you pay for.
Never know these. Thank You @knc1!
baalajimaestro is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-17-2017, 10:12 AM   #14
knc1
Going Viral
knc1 ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.knc1 ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.knc1 ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.knc1 ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.knc1 ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.knc1 ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.knc1 ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.knc1 ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.knc1 ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.knc1 ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.knc1 ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.
 
knc1's Avatar
 
Posts: 17,212
Karma: 18210809
Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: Central Texas
Device: No K1, PW2, KV, KOA
Quote:
Originally Posted by baalajimaestro View Post
Never know these. Thank You @knc1!
Here is a list of 542 people you can sign up for a free web-site:
https://www.tdcj.state.tx.us/death_r...offenders.html

Since you probably do not want to get the credit for your work in this case -
Start out with 542 (free) VPN accounts, just so things don't (easily) trace back to you:
https://hide.me/en/

You might also give all of them nice (free) social media pages.

And of course, you'll want each of them to have a (free) e-mail address.

- - - - -

That should be a nice 'network scripting' exercise.

Let me know if you get any complaints from the 542 (deceased) clients of yours.

Last edited by knc1; 06-17-2017 at 10:30 AM.
knc1 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-17-2017, 10:14 AM   #15
baalajimaestro
Expecto Patronum!
baalajimaestro ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.baalajimaestro ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.baalajimaestro ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.baalajimaestro ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.baalajimaestro ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.baalajimaestro ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.baalajimaestro ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.baalajimaestro ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.baalajimaestro ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.baalajimaestro ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.baalajimaestro ought to be getting tired of karma fortunes by now.
 
baalajimaestro's Avatar
 
Posts: 137
Karma: 342260
Join Date: May 2017
Location: Chennai, India
Device: Kindle PW2(9017) 4GB, FW 5.7.4
What is that? A list of criminal offenders?!
baalajimaestro is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply


Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Kindle Nicknaming Scheme, Using Kindle with Calibre, and Hacking the Kindle Klif Amazon Kindle 11 09-12-2012 05:11 PM
$0.01 in Kindle Store: Interactive Sudoku for Kindle 2 and Kindle DX - Volume 1 Xia Deals and Resources (No Self-Promotion or Affiliate Links) 2 11-07-2009 10:06 AM


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 08:06 AM.


MobileRead.com is a privately owned, operated and funded community.