Converting to azw3 when sending to device..

sjw · 08-29-2015, 08:48 AM

I have some mobis that I can't get to appear on my Kindle (see here). I've changed my preferred output in Preferences - Behaviour - Preferred output format to AZW3. However, when I send my books to the Kindle they still appear on it as mobi files. Do files need to be converted in advance? I was expecting this option to make Calibre convert the books to AZW3 upon the 'send'?

oblox · 09-01-2015, 10:32 AM

IIRC it will only convert if a supported format is not available, if you have mobi in the list it will send that if theres no AZW3. Remove mobi from the list and only have AZW3 and it should then convert.

Probably a good idea to pre-covert though as it can take a long time if you're doing lots of books.

theducks · 09-01-2015, 11:02 AM

Auto conversion only gets done IF:

There are no available Supported (device driver settings) formats

Mobi is supported (and is native to the device)

You GAIN little to nothing converting Mobi to AZW3 because there is no new format info to be gleaned from the source.

HarryT · 09-01-2015, 12:57 PM

Although AZW3 has no benefit on the device in that circumstance, it's still beneficial to have AZW3 stored in Calibre because of the ease of editing it.

If you wanted to FORCE the sending (and auto-conversion) of AZW3 you could do so by going to the Kindle driver preferences and unchecking the "Mobi" option, leaving only "AZW3" checked.

theducks · 09-01-2015, 01:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HarryT

Although AZW3 has no benefit on the device in that circumstance, it's still beneficial to have AZW3 stored in Calibre because of the ease of editing it.

I don't disagree. I edit.

A-mazing

how many 1 to 1 (Paper to e-format) have the huge (many times, larger than will fit on a 5" screen)whitespace areas that the Paper version had. (I am not a Zero whitespace, cram as much as possible, fanboy either)

OTOH the OP did not indicate any wish to do other than send AZW3

So OP, If you want a better book, Edit the AZW3, then send

(And remember to move AZW3 above Mobi in the Device preference

sjw · 09-01-2015, 01:28 PM

Thanks all - I will try this later.

Quote:

Originally Posted by theducks

...So OP, If you want a better book, Edit the AZW3, then send

(And remember to move AZW3 above Mobi in the Device preference

Forgive my ignorance - but is an AZW3 file formatted differently on screen? Otherwise, why the recommendation to Edit the AZW3 file?
I hadn't realised the output options were in a re-orderable list. I'm only converting to AZW3 because the mobi versions aren't showing up on the Kindle after sending them to the device (link in first post above).

HarryT · 09-01-2015, 01:33 PM

Nobody's recommending that you edit the AZW3 file, but there are many reasons why you may wish to edit it to change the formatting. Should you wish to do so, Calibre's editor can edit AZW3 files, but not Mobi files.

theducks · 09-01-2015, 03:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sjw

Thanks all - I will try this later.

Forgive my ignorance - but is an AZW3 file formatted differently on screen? Otherwise, why the recommendation to Edit the AZW3 file?
I hadn't realised the output options were in a re-orderable list. I'm only converting to AZW3 because the mobi versions aren't showing up on the Kindle after sending them to the device (link in first post above).

Not really a Mobi (inside) or Damaged
DRM infested mobi on an unregisterd/differently registered device

Did you try and 'restart' your PW?

eschwartz · 09-01-2015, 03:56 PM

It could be the indexer jammed on a badly-formatted book. Doing a conversion in calibre has been known to fix this.
Converting to MOBI should theoretically work too -- but of course once you are converting anyway, AZW3 is more future-proof.

sjw · 09-02-2015, 02:37 PM

Kindle has bee restarted. Index been deleted (and completes re-index). It's not just one book that doesn't appear, it's any mobi file (they do go to the Kindle documents folder etc.).

HarryT · 09-02-2015, 02:42 PM

Are you able to view these Mobi files in Calibre's viewer OK?

sjw · 09-02-2015, 03:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HarryT

Are you able to view these Mobi files in Calibre's viewer OK?

Yes, absolutely fine. It's not a problem with the books. If I remove an existing one (sent via Calibre) and then add it again it no longer shows up.

HarryT · 09-02-2015, 03:11 PM

My only suggestion, I'm afraid, would be a Factory Reset of the Kindle.

sjw · 09-02-2015, 03:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HarryT

My only suggestion, I'm afraid, would be a Factory Reset of the Kindle.

Thanks, thought as much. Tried to send to a different Kindle earlier on (not a PW) and they went fine. In the middle of a couple of books but will do so as soon as I can.

08-29-2015, 08:48 AM	#1
sjw Junior Member Posts: 6 Karma: 10 Join Date: Aug 2015 Device: Kindle Paperwhite	Converting to azw3 when sending to device.. I have some mobis that I can't get to appear on my Kindle (see here). I've changed my preferred output in Preferences - Behaviour - Preferred output format to AZW3. However, when I send my books to the Kindle they still appear on it as mobi files. Do files need to be converted in advance? I was expecting this option to make Calibre convert the books to AZW3 upon the 'send'?

09-01-2015, 12:57 PM	#4
HarryT eBook Enthusiast Posts: 85,544 Karma: 93383099 Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: UK Device: Kindle Oasis 2, iPad Pro 10.5", iPhone 6	Although AZW3 has no benefit on the device in that circumstance, it's still beneficial to have AZW3 stored in Calibre because of the ease of editing it. If you wanted to FORCE the sending (and auto-conversion) of AZW3 you could do so by going to the Kindle driver preferences and unchecking the "Mobi" option, leaving only "AZW3" checked. Last edited by HarryT; 09-01-2015 at 01:03 PM.

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09-01-2015, 10:32 AM	#2
oblox Zealot Posts: 135 Karma: 1007000 Join Date: Sep 2013 Device: Kindle Paperwhite (7th Gen)	IIRC it will only convert if a supported format is not available, if you have mobi in the list it will send that if theres no AZW3. Remove mobi from the list and only have AZW3 and it should then convert. Probably a good idea to pre-covert though as it can take a long time if you're doing lots of books.

09-01-2015, 11:02 AM	#3
theducks Well trained by Cats Posts: 30,912 Karma: 60358908 Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: The Central Coast of California Device: Kobo Libra2,Kobo Aura2v1, K4NT(Fixed: New Bat.), Galaxy Tab A	Auto conversion only gets done IF: There are no available Supported (device driver settings) formats Mobi is supported (and is native to the device) You GAIN little to nothing converting Mobi to AZW3 because there is no new format info to be gleaned from the source.

09-01-2015, 01:33 PM	#7
HarryT eBook Enthusiast Posts: 85,544 Karma: 93383099 Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: UK Device: Kindle Oasis 2, iPad Pro 10.5", iPhone 6	Nobody's recommending that you edit the AZW3 file, but there are many reasons why you may wish to edit it to change the formatting. Should you wish to do so, Calibre's editor can edit AZW3 files, but not Mobi files.

09-01-2015, 03:56 PM	#9
eschwartz Ex-Helpdesk Junkie Posts: 19,421 Karma: 85400180 Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: The Beaten Path, USA, Roundworld, This Side of Infinity Device: Kindle Touch fw5.3.7 (Wifi only)	It could be the indexer jammed on a badly-formatted book. Doing a conversion in calibre has been known to fix this. Converting to MOBI should theoretically work too -- but of course once you are converting anyway, AZW3 is more future-proof.

09-02-2015, 02:37 PM	#10
sjw Junior Member Posts: 6 Karma: 10 Join Date: Aug 2015 Device: Kindle Paperwhite	Kindle has bee restarted. Index been deleted (and completes re-index). It's not just one book that doesn't appear, it's any mobi file (they do go to the Kindle documents folder etc.).

09-02-2015, 02:42 PM	#11
HarryT eBook Enthusiast Posts: 85,544 Karma: 93383099 Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: UK Device: Kindle Oasis 2, iPad Pro 10.5", iPhone 6	Are you able to view these Mobi files in Calibre's viewer OK?

09-02-2015, 03:11 PM	#13
HarryT eBook Enthusiast Posts: 85,544 Karma: 93383099 Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: UK Device: Kindle Oasis 2, iPad Pro 10.5", iPhone 6	My only suggestion, I'm afraid, would be a Factory Reset of the Kindle.

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