Collections in new Kindle Touch

finsalscollons · 08-18-2015, 01:40 PM

Hello, everybody.

After my old Kindle Keyboard broke, I have purchased my new Kindle Touch (firmware 5.6.2.1). I have about 45 books purchased on Amazon but I have got most of my books from other sources.

I tried to search a solution to create Kindle Collections from these books without using the Kindle device (which would be a huge pain). But I have found nothing.

- Kindlian and KDeasy do not work with this firmware.
- Amazon for PC does not sync the books in the device that have not been purchased on Amazon.
- I saw something about Calibre and Jailbreak but it seems not to work with this firmware (Am I wrong?).

I have searched for hours and I found no solution. So, as much as I hate to bother people, I decided to ask here. Do you know anything that could work? Any link?

Thank you and apologies for the inconveniences.

eschwartz · 08-18-2015, 01:49 PM

No.

All solutions require jailbreaking and that requires hardware modding on the fw5.6.x devices.

If you are interested in trying, there is a sticky and several other related threads which discuss administering the jailkreak over the serial port. Steady hands and an ability to follow directions very closely is a must.
Then simply install KUAL+LibrarianSync on your Kindle, and Kindle Collections plugin in calibre.

Note: Kindlian and KDeasy don't work for a reason -- they rely on stealing the community work done here. And we haven't found a closed-Kindle jailbreak (yet).

Note2: Our hacks are modular -- one jailbreak, a standard "extensions" layout which applications launchers can plug into, and things build off those. So if you can get the jailbreak installed (or preserved during a PW upgrade) things will generally Just Work. Other hacks sometimes aren't as community-minded, so if you cannot install their proprietary jailbreak keys through the only method they support, nothing can be done.
All our hacks still work if you use "Super-Advanced Mode" to install the jailbreak.

HarryT · 08-18-2015, 01:51 PM

You may wish to consider using a Calibre plugboard instead of collections. I do this and for me it works well.

finsalscollons · 08-18-2015, 01:56 PM

Thank you very much for this information. Hardware modding is not for me at all. Very frustrated because there is no solution available but it's better to know it than to waste my time and energy with no result.

I guess it will be the last Kindle I buy. It's incredible that Amazon makes an easy task such as organizing your books that hard. I will look for a reader that has a better organizing features.

Thank you for your help.

finsalscollons · 08-18-2015, 02:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HarryT

You may wish to consider using a Calibre plugboard instead of collections. I do this and for me it works well.

Thank you, but my goal of having collections is not to have many lines in the Kindle home screen so it's easy for me to navigate to the books and to choose books according to topic. As I understand, calibre plugboards only add some prefix to the book title but do not reduce the number of lines. But I could be wrong.

Thank you for your help.

eschwartz · 08-18-2015, 02:05 PM

As HarryT said, you may wish to try plugboards. It works for some people.
I must confess I vastly prefer collections.

EDIT: Ninjaed by crossposting. The peril of trying to communicate at the speed of IRC, on a forum.

If collections are an important feature for you, you may wish to look into a Kobo. You can manage Kobo collections easily via calibre.

HarryT · 08-18-2015, 02:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by finsalscollons

Thank you, but my goal of having collections is not to have many lines in the Kindle home screen so it's easy for me to navigate to the books and to choose books according to topic. As I understand, calibre plugboards only add some prefix to the book title but do not reduce the number of lines. But I could be wrong.

Thank you for your help.

You're right that plugboards don't reduce the number of books on the home screen, but that's irrelevant to me. I use the plugboard to add series information, and all I ever want to do is to go to a book either by series or by author. With the series prefixed to the title I can go directly to a book either by author or series with no need to scroll.

For me it works well (I have about 2000 books on my Kindle) but of course everyone has different requirements and I appreciate it may not be the right answer for you.

Cinisajoy · 08-18-2015, 02:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HarryT

You're right that plugboards don't reduce the number of books on the home screen, but that's irrelevant to me. I use the plugboard to add series information, and all I ever want to do is to go to a book either by series or by author. With the series prefixed to the title I can go directly to a book either by author or series with no need to scroll.

For me it works well (I have about 2000 books on my Kindle) but of course everyone has different requirements and I appreciate it may not be the right answer for you.

You just made me feel like a lightweight. I only keep about 250 on my kindle.
Last count on total books from Amazon was 8000+.

badgoodDeb · 08-19-2015, 03:25 PM

Harry, point them to the recent thread where you all walked me through how to use plugboards. Harry showed me how useful (and dead easy) it is to have Calibre put a series name and number into the book's title .... thus making most of the collection needs go away.

I still USE some collections "ReadMeNext" "Paid$$" "Done" etc, but I don't really need to. Having the series info in the title makes my world much nicer!

Well, I'll point you (Harry is a busy guy, I'm sure). Skim this thread, for all the discoveries I made about how to use plugboards.

08-18-2015, 01:40 PM	#1
finsalscollons Junior Member Posts: 5 Karma: 10 Join Date: Sep 2014 Device: kindle 4	Collections in new Kindle Touch Hello, everybody. After my old Kindle Keyboard broke, I have purchased my new Kindle Touch (firmware 5.6.2.1). I have about 45 books purchased on Amazon but I have got most of my books from other sources. I tried to search a solution to create Kindle Collections from these books without using the Kindle device (which would be a huge pain). But I have found nothing. - Kindlian and KDeasy do not work with this firmware. - Amazon for PC does not sync the books in the device that have not been purchased on Amazon. - I saw something about Calibre and Jailbreak but it seems not to work with this firmware (Am I wrong?). I have searched for hours and I found no solution. So, as much as I hate to bother people, I decided to ask here. Do you know anything that could work? Any link? Thank you and apologies for the inconveniences.

08-18-2015, 01:49 PM	#2
eschwartz Ex-Helpdesk Junkie Posts: 19,421 Karma: 85400180 Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: The Beaten Path, USA, Roundworld, This Side of Infinity Device: Kindle Touch fw5.3.7 (Wifi only)	No. All solutions require jailbreaking and that requires hardware modding on the fw5.6.x devices. If you are interested in trying, there is a sticky and several other related threads which discuss administering the jailkreak over the serial port. Steady hands and an ability to follow directions very closely is a must. Then simply install KUAL+LibrarianSync on your Kindle, and Kindle Collections plugin in calibre. Note: Kindlian and KDeasy don't work for a reason -- they rely on stealing the community work done here. And we haven't found a closed-Kindle jailbreak (yet). Note2: Our hacks are modular -- one jailbreak, a standard "extensions" layout which applications launchers can plug into, and things build off those. So if you can get the jailbreak installed (or preserved during a PW upgrade) things will generally Just Work. Other hacks sometimes aren't as community-minded, so if you cannot install their proprietary jailbreak keys through the only method they support, nothing can be done. All our hacks still work if you use "Super-Advanced Mode" to install the jailbreak. Last edited by eschwartz; 08-18-2015 at 01:58 PM.

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08-18-2015, 01:51 PM	#3
HarryT eBook Enthusiast Posts: 85,544 Karma: 93383099 Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: UK Device: Kindle Oasis 2, iPad Pro 10.5", iPhone 6	You may wish to consider using a Calibre plugboard instead of collections. I do this and for me it works well.

08-18-2015, 01:56 PM	#4
finsalscollons Junior Member Posts: 5 Karma: 10 Join Date: Sep 2014 Device: kindle 4	Thank you very much for this information. Hardware modding is not for me at all. Very frustrated because there is no solution available but it's better to know it than to waste my time and energy with no result. I guess it will be the last Kindle I buy. It's incredible that Amazon makes an easy task such as organizing your books that hard. I will look for a reader that has a better organizing features. Thank you for your help.

08-18-2015, 02:05 PM	#6
eschwartz Ex-Helpdesk Junkie Posts: 19,421 Karma: 85400180 Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: The Beaten Path, USA, Roundworld, This Side of Infinity Device: Kindle Touch fw5.3.7 (Wifi only)	As HarryT said, you may wish to try plugboards. It works for some people. I must confess I vastly prefer collections. EDIT: Ninjaed by crossposting. The peril of trying to communicate at the speed of IRC, on a forum. If collections are an important feature for you, you may wish to look into a Kobo. You can manage Kobo collections easily via calibre.

08-19-2015, 03:25 PM	#9
badgoodDeb Grand Sorcerer Posts: 8,545 Karma: 64462893 Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Harrisburg outskirts Device: Palms, K1-4s, iPads, iPhones, KV, KO1	Harry, point them to the recent thread where you all walked me through how to use plugboards. Harry showed me how useful (and dead easy) it is to have Calibre put a series name and number into the book's title .... thus making most of the collection needs go away. I still USE some collections "ReadMeNext" "Paid$$" "Done" etc, but I don't really need to. Having the series info in the title makes my world much nicer! Well, I'll point you (Harry is a busy guy, I'm sure). Skim this thread, for all the discoveries I made about how to use plugboards.

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