Add automatically paragraph tag

hifi25nl · 05-09-2015, 03:27 AM

I have a long book written with openoffice.
How to add automatically paragraph tag or specific tag at each carriage return?

Example:

This is a test This is a test This is a test This is a test This is a test This is a test This is a test This is a test This is a test This is a test This is a test This is a test This is a test This is a test This is a test 
 This is a test This is a test This is a test This is a test This is a test This is a test This is a test This is a test This is a test
This is a test This is a test This is a test This is a test This is a test This is a test This is a test This is a test This is a test This is a test This is a test This is a test This is a test This is a test This is a test

Notjohn · 05-09-2015, 06:20 AM

Export or "save as" your OOW file as html. Open it in Sigil and add your style sheet. Depending on your style sheet, you may have to place all instances of with a plain vanilla or some other usage.

(I've never used the OOW-to-html option, but I'm told it can produce cleaner html than Word does.)

hifi25nl · 05-09-2015, 11:59 AM

Thanks, but this really is not an option. Open office will save html with a lot of useless tags that I don't need.
I have tried other solutions , for example copy as text in linux kwrite editor and save as html, but in this case there are not paragraph tags.

My question is: people (or editors) using sigil need to add manually the p tag...or whatever paragraph tags?

rubeus · 05-09-2015, 12:22 PM

Either your paragraphs are included in or even worth in <div>, or you didnt export it as html. Nevertheless i cant see any Sigil related problem here, its Openoffice and html/epub write now.

DiapDealer · 05-09-2015, 12:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hifi25nl

My question is: people (or editors) using sigil need to add manually the p tag...or whatever paragraph tags?

How are you getting your OO document's text into Sigil in the first place? Are you copying from OO and pasting into Sigil's Book View?

When I paste from Word into Sigil's Book View (as plain text), p tags ARE created where ever carriage returns occurred in the original. I would assume OO would be similar.

hifi25nl · 05-09-2015, 12:34 PM

This is good, I was using only code window...However with paste as plain text I have div tag, not p.

After I can substitute div with my css tag easily with search and replace

rubeus · 05-09-2015, 12:43 PM

So you have an export problem, not an import problem. Better look at https://www.mobileread.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=230

hifi25nl · 05-09-2015, 01:08 PM

The problem is solved.

I discovered that in the new KDE Plasma there are some problems in cut text format (!). Using LXQt Desktop on the same installation Sigil is adding correctly the p tags.

Thank you for suggestions.

Notjohn · 05-10-2015, 05:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DiapDealer

How are you getting your OO document's text into Sigil in the first place? Are you copying from OO and pasting into Sigil's Book View?

When I paste from Word into Sigil's Book View (as plain text), p tags ARE created where ever carriage returns occurred in the original. I would assume OO would be similar.

I never thought of trying that! (Perhaps because I used to make the occasional editorial change in Book View and it turned out badly, with a non-breaking space whenever I hit the space bar.)

This is in effect Mark Coker's Nuclear Option, in that it wipes out italics and heading styles etc?

exaltedwombat · 05-10-2015, 07:48 AM

Have you tried dropping your OpenOffice document into Calibre for conversion to EPUB? Then tidy up in Sigil, or even give Calibre's editor a try - it seems remarkably similar to Sigil in all but appearance.
If your OpenOffice document was constructed "by the rules" you'll get pretty clean code. Or you might have some work to do - but anything's better than pasting paragraphs across one by one, surely?
And there's no need to obsess over achieving minimal EPUB code. That's not what the reader sees. If it works...

Turtle91 · 05-10-2015, 08:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by exaltedwombat

but anything's better than pasting paragraphs across one by one, surely?

I don't think he meant paragraph by paragraph. You can paste the entire text. IIRC it does strip formatting (italics, bold, etc.) but you can always do a search/replace and put tags around the formatted text before copy/paste to Sigil.

exaltedwombat · 05-10-2015, 12:31 PM

Well OK. But why not simply drop it into Sigil, which will give you a well-formatted EPUB output automatically, as long as you made logical use of styles etc. in the original? There's a tool for this job - use it!

eschwartz · 05-10-2015, 01:55 PM

...Why not simply use the EPUB export plugin...

theducks · 05-10-2015, 03:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by eschwartz

...Why not simply use the EPUB export plugin...

+1 Writer2EPUB is fairly clean.

BetterRed · 05-10-2015, 05:45 PM

I would get Writer to save as DOCX and import it directly into calibre-editor, then save as EPUB. If any significant editing was required (very unlikely in my case) I'd do it in Sigil.

Calibre recently added support for strict OpenXML which is what I suspect Writer might create. The differences between strict and the original MS spec are at the edges. ECMA had to make some changes, even if only on the principal of bloody-mindedness.

BR

05-09-2015, 03:27 AM	#1
hifi25nl Junior Member Posts: 4 Karma: 10 Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: GB	Add automatically paragraph tag I have a long book written with openoffice. How to add automatically paragraph tag or specific tag at each carriage return? Example: <p class="standard-text">This is a test This is a test This is a test This is a test This is a test This is a test This is a test This is a test This is a test This is a test This is a test This is a test This is a test This is a test This is a test </p> <p class="standard-text"> This is a test This is a test This is a test This is a test This is a test This is a test This is a test This is a test This is a test</p> <p class="standard-text">This is a test This is a test This is a test This is a test This is a test This is a test This is a test This is a test This is a test This is a test This is a test This is a test This is a test This is a test This is a test </p>

05-09-2015, 06:20 AM	#2
Notjohn mostly an observer Posts: 1,518 Karma: 987654 Join Date: Dec 2012 Device: Kindle	Export or "save as" your OOW file as html. Open it in Sigil and add your style sheet. Depending on your style sheet, you may have to place all instances of <p class="standard-text"> with a plain vanilla <p> or some other usage. (I've never used the OOW-to-html option, but I'm told it can produce cleaner html than Word does.)

05-09-2015, 12:22 PM	#4
rubeus Banned Posts: 272 Karma: 1224588 Join Date: Sep 2014 Device: Sony PRS 650	Either your paragraphs are included in <p> or even worth in <div>, or you didnt export it as html. Nevertheless i cant see any Sigil related problem here, its Openoffice and html/epub write now.

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05-09-2015, 11:59 AM	#3
hifi25nl Junior Member Posts: 4 Karma: 10 Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: GB	Thanks, but this really is not an option. Open office will save html with a lot of useless tags that I don't need. I have tried other solutions , for example copy as text in linux kwrite editor and save as html, but in this case there are not paragraph tags. My question is: people (or editors) using sigil need to add manually the p tag...or whatever paragraph tags?

05-09-2015, 12:34 PM	#6
hifi25nl Junior Member Posts: 4 Karma: 10 Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: GB	This is good, I was using only code window...However with paste as plain text I have div tag, not p. After I can substitute div with my css tag easily with search and replace

05-09-2015, 12:43 PM	#7
rubeus Banned Posts: 272 Karma: 1224588 Join Date: Sep 2014 Device: Sony PRS 650	So you have an export problem, not an import problem. Better look at https://www.mobileread.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=230

05-09-2015, 01:08 PM	#8
hifi25nl Junior Member Posts: 4 Karma: 10 Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: GB	The problem is solved. I discovered that in the new KDE Plasma there are some problems in cut text format (!). Using LXQt Desktop on the same installation Sigil is adding correctly the p tags. Thank you for suggestions.

05-10-2015, 07:48 AM	#10
exaltedwombat Guru Posts: 878 Karma: 2457540 Join Date: Nov 2011 Device: none	Have you tried dropping your OpenOffice document into Calibre for conversion to EPUB? Then tidy up in Sigil, or even give Calibre's editor a try - it seems remarkably similar to Sigil in all but appearance. If your OpenOffice document was constructed "by the rules" you'll get pretty clean code. Or you might have some work to do - but anything's better than pasting paragraphs across one by one, surely? And there's no need to obsess over achieving minimal EPUB code. That's not what the reader sees. If it works...

05-10-2015, 12:31 PM	#12
exaltedwombat Guru Posts: 878 Karma: 2457540 Join Date: Nov 2011 Device: none	Well OK. But why not simply drop it into Sigil, which will give you a well-formatted EPUB output automatically, as long as you made logical use of styles etc. in the original? There's a tool for this job - use it!

05-10-2015, 01:55 PM	#13
eschwartz Ex-Helpdesk Junkie Posts: 19,421 Karma: 85400180 Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: The Beaten Path, USA, Roundworld, This Side of Infinity Device: Kindle Touch fw5.3.7 (Wifi only)	...Why not simply use the EPUB export plugin...

05-10-2015, 05:45 PM	#15
BetterRed null operator (he/him) Posts: 21,633 Karma: 29710510 Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Sydney Australia Device: none	I would get Writer to save as DOCX and import it directly into calibre-editor, then save as EPUB. If any significant editing was required (very unlikely in my case) I'd do it in Sigil. Calibre recently added support for strict OpenXML which is what I suspect Writer might create. The differences between strict and the original MS spec are at the edges. ECMA had to make some changes, even if only on the principal of bloody-mindedness. BR

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