Kindle Voyage/Kindle 6 Jailbreaks?

ramseynasser · 11-02-2014, 02:14 PM

In September Amazon announced the Kindle Voyage and 'new' Kindle (Wikipedia calls it Kindle 6, Amazon's source code notice calls it the Kindle 7th Generation). Is there any effort being made to jailbreak them? If so, what's its status? Any way I can help or be pointed in the right direction to start a jailbreaking effort? I have a lot of experience with C/Linux and a Jailbroken Kindle 4NT, but I wouldn't know where to start jailbreaking a new device.

Thanks! The stuff everyone here does is amazing and I'm excited to be a part of it!

knc1 · 11-02-2014, 03:09 PM

Site traffic may be slow now, but we have not surrendered in the war over end-user access to the Kindle that they own.

Mostly, we are now being very careful not to give Lab126 any hints on things they forgot or did wrong.

We do need to find people with a KV on order but not yet received.
Those people should also have a PC with Linux installed (not installed in a VM).

ramseynasser · 11-02-2014, 04:09 PM

Cool. I'm on OSX, but I can get my hands on a Linux machine. Any preferred distros?

I can get my hands on the Kindle/Linux hardware in a week or so.

NiLuJe · 11-02-2014, 04:10 PM

@ramseynasser: Kind of a non-answer, but, really: whatever you're most comfortable with

.

(Hell, OS X might even do (part of) the job here, most of us are just more familiar with Linux [and/or don't have any Apple hw]. That said, among other things, working with ext[34] images can be a pain outside of Linux).

ramseynasser · 11-02-2014, 04:40 PM

Cool! Yeah, Apple's OS/HW has some weird magic that can mess this kind of stuff up. I'm usually on Arch, so I will get that set up right away.

knc1 · 11-02-2014, 07:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ramseynasser

Cool! Yeah, Apple's OS/HW has some weird magic that can mess this kind of stuff up. I'm usually on Arch, so I will get that set up right away.

Arch? I have never used it.
You might have to build a program for it but no big deal.
Choose a 32bit install if you have a choice.

PM either myself or NiLuJe -
we will give you the step-by-step of what we want done.

Like I wrote above, we are not giving Lab126 any more lessons on embedded Linux.
They have been learning too fast.

DaRon · 11-03-2014, 08:30 AM

hi there,

here's another user of a KV (expected delivery by end of this week) and debian user.
You still need help?
Ron

knc1 · 11-03-2014, 09:16 AM

And from Europe at that. Interesting.

zxczxc · 11-04-2014, 04:08 AM

interesting that the work is now going 'underground'

good luck

Akirainblack · 11-04-2014, 04:26 AM

It needed to zxczxc due to it being out in the open it meant lab126 knew how they were gaining access to the system so each time they could close the back door being used.

knc1 · 11-04-2014, 08:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by zxczxc

interesting that the work is now going 'underground'

good luck

Not much of a change -

We want Amazon to ship enough of the new models with the new firmware into the field that they can't "pull" that initial release and re-think the situation.

But once a new model and its initial firmware become "history" due to the number of devices in private hands -

Then the end-result of our efforts becomes public.

The "how did someone come up with this" part -
that has always been knowledge only the originator knows about.

Sometimes these things get "engineered", sometimes the person just "gets lucky".
We only have self-motivated individuals working on the Amazon challenges - not organized groups.

For us its a game.
For Amazon it is a significant expense item in their development program.
Someday, Amazon's bean counters will win - by recognizing that going to an "Open Kindle" is the better business decision.

Glorfindel · 11-04-2014, 08:52 AM

I hope so.

Yolina · 11-04-2014, 09:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by knc1

For us its a game.
For Amazon it is a significant expense item in their development program.
Someday, Amazon's bean counters will win - by recognizing that going to an "Open Kindle" is the better business decision.

I reckon you lot should bill Amazon for all the things you've taught Lab126 over the years

And as a dumb end user, my thanks as always to the devs for all the goodies. Hopefully you'll find a way in with the Voyage too!

PeterBr · 11-04-2014, 09:32 AM

My Voyage will ship today. I can easily hold off doing stuff with it and I have access to OS X and Raspberry PI Debian at home and Linux at work, if that's any help.

knc1 · 11-04-2014, 09:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PeterBr

My Voyage will ship today. I can easily hold off doing stuff with it and I have access to OS X and Raspberry PI Debian at home and Linux at work, if that's any help.

I will leave this response to NiLuJe (he has OSx, I don't).

11-02-2014, 02:14 PM	#1
ramseynasser Junior Member Posts: 5 Karma: 10 Join Date: Nov 2014 Device: Kindle	Kindle Voyage/Kindle 6 Jailbreaks? In September Amazon announced the Kindle Voyage and 'new' Kindle (Wikipedia calls it Kindle 6, Amazon's source code notice calls it the Kindle 7th Generation). Is there any effort being made to jailbreak them? If so, what's its status? Any way I can help or be pointed in the right direction to start a jailbreaking effort? I have a lot of experience with C/Linux and a Jailbroken Kindle 4NT, but I wouldn't know where to start jailbreaking a new device. Thanks! The stuff everyone here does is amazing and I'm excited to be a part of it!

11-02-2014, 04:10 PM	#4
NiLuJe BLAM! Posts: 13,506 Karma: 26047190 Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Paris, France Device: Kindle 2i, 3g, 4, 5w, PW, PW2, PW5; Kobo H2O, Forma, Elipsa, Sage, C2E	@ramseynasser: Kind of a non-answer, but, really: whatever you're most comfortable with . (Hell, OS X might even do (part of) the job here, most of us are just more familiar with Linux [and/or don't have any Apple hw]. That said, among other things, working with ext[34] images can be a pain outside of Linux). Last edited by NiLuJe; 11-02-2014 at 04:15 PM.

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11-02-2014, 03:09 PM	#2
knc1 Going Viral Posts: 17,212 Karma: 18210809 Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Central Texas Device: No K1, PW2, KV, KOA	Site traffic may be slow now, but we have not surrendered in the war over end-user access to the Kindle that they own. Mostly, we are now being very careful not to give Lab126 any hints on things they forgot or did wrong. We do need to find people with a KV on order but not yet received. Those people should also have a PC with Linux installed (not installed in a VM).

11-02-2014, 04:09 PM	#3
ramseynasser Junior Member Posts: 5 Karma: 10 Join Date: Nov 2014 Device: Kindle	Cool. I'm on OSX, but I can get my hands on a Linux machine. Any preferred distros? I can get my hands on the Kindle/Linux hardware in a week or so.

11-02-2014, 04:40 PM	#5
ramseynasser Junior Member Posts: 5 Karma: 10 Join Date: Nov 2014 Device: Kindle	Cool! Yeah, Apple's OS/HW has some weird magic that can mess this kind of stuff up. I'm usually on Arch, so I will get that set up right away.

11-03-2014, 08:30 AM	#7
DaRon Enthusiast Posts: 39 Karma: 1158 Join Date: Nov 2014 Location: Austria Device: Libra Colour, Mini, Aura One, Pyrus mini	hi there, here's another user of a KV (expected delivery by end of this week) and debian user. You still need help? Ron

11-03-2014, 09:16 AM	#8
knc1 Going Viral Posts: 17,212 Karma: 18210809 Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Central Texas Device: No K1, PW2, KV, KOA	And from Europe at that. Interesting.

11-04-2014, 04:08 AM	#9
zxczxc Addict Posts: 229 Karma: 136002 Join Date: Apr 2013 Device: PW	interesting that the work is now going 'underground' good luck

11-04-2014, 04:26 AM	#10
Akirainblack abibliophobic Posts: 220 Karma: 219708 Join Date: Aug 2012 Device: KV jailbroken	It needed to zxczxc due to it being out in the open it meant lab126 knew how they were gaining access to the system so each time they could close the back door being used.

11-04-2014, 08:52 AM	#12
Glorfindel Force-Aware Elf Posts: 4,762 Karma: 11557898 Join Date: Feb 2014 Location: Valinor Device: Kindle 4 w/SO	I hope so.

11-04-2014, 09:32 AM	#14
PeterBr Enthusiast Posts: 33 Karma: 10 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Oldenburg, Germany Device: Kindle Paperwhite, iPad Mini Retina, iBooks on Mavrericks	My Voyage will ship today. I can easily hold off doing stuff with it and I have access to OS X and Raspberry PI Debian at home and Linux at work, if that's any help.

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