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Old 03-08-2015, 06:11 AM   #1
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As a result of the Hugo Awards thread on this forum, I was curious enough to read Ancillary Justice, one of the 2014 winners. I enjoyed it enough to also read the second book, Ancillary Sword, and am now awaiting the release of the third book, Ancillary Mercy, later in the year. One of the themes on the other thread was the hypothesis that the Hugos were selecting at least some winners based on their politically correct themes rather than their merit. I have really not taken enough of an interest in these awards to form an opinion on whether I believe this to be correct. However, I do want to express my opinion that if this is happening Ancillary Justice is certainly not an example of it. I found it to be an exceptional work and a worthy winner. Yes, one major theme would be very pleasing to the most ardent left-wing ideologue, but was integral to the story and only enhanced it and provoked thought.

It is probably the only book I have ever read where the gender of many characters is not stated and often remains unknown. The primary culture, the Radchai, has dispensed with gender differences to the point where their language literally fails to distinguish between genders. They regard cultures which do discriminate on the basis of gender as uncivilised. Shades of George Orwell's Newspeak and its intended effects on thought. Rather topical. One example which comes to mind is the effect on thought and subsequent discrimination in future generations if the word "marriage" also comes to encompass a union between parties of the same sex. I was sometimes curious about the actual sex of a character, but the author rarely indulged me with a clear answer. Perhaps a little disorienting but it did not detract from the story in any way, because the interactions between the characters remained believable whatever their gender. In this way, at least, their gender was irrelevant. I can't say that I would like to see this particular technique spread elsewhere in the world of literature, but in this case I found it to be a thought provoking technique.

Gender was only one of a number of worthwhile themes in two excellent books. Ancillary Justice was, in my view, a worthy award winner. If you like thought-provoking Science Fiction I think both books are well worth a read.
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Old 03-08-2015, 09:56 AM   #2
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I loved the book too. It is refreshing to sometimes read something that different. Funny enough in the first book I was guessing the genders constantly but in the second book I didn't. Maybe it has something to do with the shift between the first and the second book (or my experience of it). I read it way before the hugos as did many people. It was kind of hyped and recommended by many bloggers (rightly so). I think it is a justified winner and I don't like the attitude of this puppies group. They do exactly what they pretend to oppose. Were "Ancillary Justice" is a very good book (with some themes this group seems to oppose) many books they nominated were just okay and seem to be chosen not for the merit of the book but for promoting their political goal. Not to say anything about the authors of the books and some of them are quite nice reads, but contrasting them with the winner, the shortcomings are obvious.
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Old 03-08-2015, 11:05 AM   #3
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... I was sometimes curious about the actual sex of a character, but the author rarely indulged me with a clear answer. ...
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I think from some point on it was quite clear - Breq was originally female.

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I loved the book too. It is refreshing to sometimes read something that different. Funny enough in the first book I was guessing the genders constantly but in the second book I didn't. Maybe it has something to do with the shift between the first and the second book (or my experience of it). I read it way before the hugos as did many people. It was kind of hyped and recommended by many bloggers (rightly so). I think it is a justified winner and I don't like the attitude of this puppies group. They do exactly what they pretend to oppose. Were "Ancillary Justice" is a very good book (with some themes this group seems to oppose) many books they nominated were just okay and seem to be chosen not for the merit of the book but for promoting their political goal. Not to say anything about the authors of the books and some of them are quite nice reads, but contrasting them with the winner, the shortcomings are obvious.
I agree with you. I don't want this thread to become a discussion of the Puppies saga. I really don't know enough to form an opinion. I can only say that I have read some of the books on their list, and works by most of the authors. Whilst some are very good reads, there is nothing IMHO on their list even in the same class as Ancillary Justice. Whilst not always the case in the real world, an award winner should have that something special.
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I think from some point on it was quite clear - Breq was originally female.
Thanks for the Spoiler. Yes, the physical gender of Breq's ancillary body was made clear from the early scene in the bar, as was the physical gender of Seiverdan. Physical gender was not a mystery with all characters, but made little difference to the story even where revealed.
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