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Let's admit it: Kindle's kerning really sucks!
I thought it was about only my favorite custom font. Tried one another and another and another. And finally had to admit that: Kindle PW's kerning is really, really, really sucks. Kindle cannot do a proper kerning between letters.
OK, if you use "the most legitimate" bundle, which is .kfx + bookerly, you may get a slightly better results (again: "slightly"!). And if you are OK with being stuck in one terrible font and unable to control line-height, of course there is not a problem for you. But if your beloved fonts are custom ones (or even an official one other than bookerly!), get ready to deal with illogical kerning problems. I do my research and I really surprised not even a single thread in this forum was dedicated to this issue. Some of you may say that I am an obsessive person. But is it an obsession to ask a proper kerning from a READING DEVICE, especially the most popular one? As far as I know, other devices (pocketbook, kobo, etc.) have not such an issue. So, how hard can it be to handle it for Amazon? Last edited by ilyasson; 09-29-2020 at 05:19 PM. |
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Do you mean "kerning"?
I'm pretty sure there's a joke about keming in here somewhere. |
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Bookerly is almost always just fine for me. I've never noticed the spacing being bad enough to be that noticeable. Not enough to bother my reading.
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It's seemed fine to me.
Then again, I'm not whatever the book equivalent of a crazy audiophile is... y'know, the type who'd spend the equivalent of the down payment on a modest house to buy a pair of headphones. |
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For me, Minion Pro is my preferred font, although it could be a little bit heavier for my personal tastes. It has most proper ligatures, including “Th”, and the kerning is the best that I have found. The kerning of “f”, “g” and “y” in italics is a thing of beauty.
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You need to be reading an eBook in KFX to get kerning. Otherwise, you get no kerning at all. KF8 does not do kerning.
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I never noticed any problem with kerning. I guess I am lucky that I just don't notice it.
Examples would be helpful to illustrate the issue. |
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I have no clue what kerning is.
I been using bookerly since it came out. But then I read on the original K1 with exactly one font available just fine. As long as its not san serif I am good it seems. And contrast, which is fine. Especially now with bold. |
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Kerning is modifying the spacing between individual characters. The final triumph of kerning (this is my opinion) is the ligature. See Kerning on xkcdexplained for a bit more information to go with the cartoon below.
I do notice kerning but then I've been a bit of a typography geek for decades. What is that phrase?, Once you've seen it, you can't unsee it? Notice the spacing in the upper lines of the kerning for a walrus image compared to the bottom two line. |
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There's also an image of a Walmart store brand product, I believe a can of soda, has what I assume is a poorly kerned "Just a click away" on it
Either that or someone photoshopped the kerning to make click no longer look like click |
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