Does X-Ray persists after re-import using Calibnre?

Brazen_NL · 02-26-2015, 03:29 PM

If I buy a book with X-Ray, import it using Calibre (maybe edit it), then resend it to a Kindle, will the X-Ray feature persist?

HarryT · 02-26-2015, 04:14 PM

The X-ray data file comes from Amazon's server, so you will only have it if you download the book from Amazon. Books sent by Calibre have no X-ray.

Brazen_NL · 02-26-2015, 04:30 PM

Thank you.

HarryT · 02-26-2015, 04:40 PM

Whether or not X-ray would continue to work if you downloaded the book from Amazon, but then manually replaced it with a version edited in Calibre, I honestly don't know. Best way to find out would be to try it.

Brazen_NL · 02-26-2015, 04:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HarryT

Whether or not X-ray would continue to work if you downloaded the book from Amazon, but then manually replaced it with a version edited in Calibre, I honestly don't know. Best way to find out would be to try it.

Don't have one, yet. Just doing research at the moment.

eschwartz · 02-26-2015, 06:10 PM

It will not work -- the file offsets are different, and the guid/exth 113 field is different.

Edits make a "new" book -- it resets things.

Brazen_NL · 02-26-2015, 06:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by eschwartz

It will not work -- the file offsets are different, and the guid/exth 113 field is different.

Edits make a "new" book -- it resets things.

And when I don't edit it? That is, download, import into Calibre and then sideload?

HarryT · 02-26-2015, 06:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brazen_NL

And when I don't edit it? That is, download, import into Calibre and then sideload?

Won't work. X-ray information is held in a separate file, which Calibre knows nothing about and doesn't store.

eschwartz · 02-26-2015, 08:08 PM

If you sideload without changing anything other than the metadata, it will work just fine... on condition. You need to make sure the filename stays the same.

See here for how I manage Amazon-sourced books on my Kindle, it has been working for me for a couple years now: https://www.mobileread.com/forums/sho...d.php?t=235537

Brazen_NL · 02-26-2015, 08:17 PM

Are the two posts above me in contradiction?

@eschwartz: Glad to know, that'll work for me!

E: Ah, I see the difference. Calibre vs rsync. Been ages since I used rsync when I was still on FreeBSD ... So, just so I get it, even if I don't modify, it won't work with Calibre?

eschwartz · 02-26-2015, 08:25 PM

Read the whole post, it has multiple parts. They work together.

(I might want to revise the title slightly, actually...)

Brazen_NL · 02-26-2015, 08:37 PM

I've read it, but I'm looking for something that has proven itself under Windows. I'm not sure if rsync's cygwin port is fully compatible in the way that you use it. Should I choose a Kindle, I will most definitely look into it. Thanks!

eschwartz · 02-26-2015, 08:46 PM

The custom columns work on Windows... that is what I was speaking of.

Although FWIW, cygwin rsync (and the rest of cygwin too) rocks and I use it whenever I have the misfortune to be on Windows.

02-26-2015, 03:29 PM	#1
Brazen_NL Slobbering Dog Posts: 454 Karma: 2522512 Join Date: Feb 2015 Location: NL Device: Kindle PW2/iPad/iPhone	Does X-Ray persists after re-import using Calibnre? If I buy a book with X-Ray, import it using Calibre (maybe edit it), then resend it to a Kindle, will the X-Ray feature persist?

02-26-2015, 08:17 PM	#10
Brazen_NL Slobbering Dog Posts: 454 Karma: 2522512 Join Date: Feb 2015 Location: NL Device: Kindle PW2/iPad/iPhone	Are the two posts above me in contradiction? @eschwartz: Glad to know, that'll work for me! E: Ah, I see the difference. Calibre vs rsync. Been ages since I used rsync when I was still on FreeBSD ... So, just so I get it, even if I don't modify, it won't work with Calibre? Last edited by Brazen_NL; 02-26-2015 at 08:22 PM.

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02-26-2015, 04:14 PM	#2
HarryT eBook Enthusiast Posts: 85,544 Karma: 93383099 Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: UK Device: Kindle Oasis 2, iPad Pro 10.5", iPhone 6	The X-ray data file comes from Amazon's server, so you will only have it if you download the book from Amazon. Books sent by Calibre have no X-ray.

02-26-2015, 04:30 PM	#3
Brazen_NL Slobbering Dog Posts: 454 Karma: 2522512 Join Date: Feb 2015 Location: NL Device: Kindle PW2/iPad/iPhone	Thank you.

02-26-2015, 04:40 PM	#4
HarryT eBook Enthusiast Posts: 85,544 Karma: 93383099 Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: UK Device: Kindle Oasis 2, iPad Pro 10.5", iPhone 6	Whether or not X-ray would continue to work if you downloaded the book from Amazon, but then manually replaced it with a version edited in Calibre, I honestly don't know. Best way to find out would be to try it.

02-26-2015, 06:10 PM	#6
eschwartz Ex-Helpdesk Junkie Posts: 19,421 Karma: 85400180 Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: The Beaten Path, USA, Roundworld, This Side of Infinity Device: Kindle Touch fw5.3.7 (Wifi only)	It will not work -- the file offsets are different, and the guid/exth 113 field is different. Edits make a "new" book -- it resets things.

02-26-2015, 08:08 PM	#9
eschwartz Ex-Helpdesk Junkie Posts: 19,421 Karma: 85400180 Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: The Beaten Path, USA, Roundworld, This Side of Infinity Device: Kindle Touch fw5.3.7 (Wifi only)	If you sideload without changing anything other than the metadata, it will work just fine... on condition. You need to make sure the filename stays the same. See here for how I manage Amazon-sourced books on my Kindle, it has been working for me for a couple years now: https://www.mobileread.com/forums/sho...d.php?t=235537

02-26-2015, 08:25 PM	#11
eschwartz Ex-Helpdesk Junkie Posts: 19,421 Karma: 85400180 Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: The Beaten Path, USA, Roundworld, This Side of Infinity Device: Kindle Touch fw5.3.7 (Wifi only)	Read the whole post, it has multiple parts. They work together. (I might want to revise the title slightly, actually...)

02-26-2015, 08:37 PM	#12
Brazen_NL Slobbering Dog Posts: 454 Karma: 2522512 Join Date: Feb 2015 Location: NL Device: Kindle PW2/iPad/iPhone	I've read it, but I'm looking for something that has proven itself under Windows. I'm not sure if rsync's cygwin port is fully compatible in the way that you use it. Should I choose a Kindle, I will most definitely look into it. Thanks!

02-26-2015, 08:46 PM	#13
eschwartz Ex-Helpdesk Junkie Posts: 19,421 Karma: 85400180 Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: The Beaten Path, USA, Roundworld, This Side of Infinity Device: Kindle Touch fw5.3.7 (Wifi only)	The custom columns work on Windows... that is what I was speaking of. Although FWIW, cygwin rsync (and the rest of cygwin too) rocks and I use it whenever I have the misfortune to be on Windows.

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